ViperAFK Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 It may have taken 5 years, but it is still in beta, crow..... In other words its still unfinished, but that has to do with the fact that its primarily filled with bloat. Its like an expensive sports car that spends most of its time in the shop getting repaired, but hey it looks nice.Why is it if anyone goes to the Windows section and says something against Windows they are censored, but if they come to the Linux section and do the same against Linux they are left alone by the mods? I don't believe I have ever heard the insult of calling someone "crow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 I don't believe I have ever heard the insult of calling someone "crow" As in the saying, "All that shines is not gold..." :) It means that they are too easily impressed by appearances instead of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran Posted March 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2008 Right, this is an excellent topic Foub. I hadn't thought of it but it is true: I have changed the way I think about hardware since changing over to Linux. I no longer feel inadequate for not having hyper fast kit just to get Windows running respectably. Rather I focus on making what I've got work properly, and the hardware needed for Linux to kick arse is so much lower spec than what you have got to buy just to get Windows out of first gear. The lesson here for me is simple but profound. Advertising is the key to controlling the world. You can get just about anyone to buy just about anything with advertising, even if what is free is twice or thrice as good. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foub Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Right, this is an excellent topic Foub. I hadn't thought of it but it is true: I have changed the way I think about hardware since changing over to Linux.I no longer feel inadequate for not having hyper fast kit just to get Windows running respectably. Rather I focus on making what I've got work properly, and the hardware needed for Linux to kick arse is so much lower spec than what you have got to buy just to get Windows out of first gear. Exactly my point. The lesson here for me is simple but profound. Advertising is the key to controlling the world. You can get just about anyone to buy just about anything with advertising, even if what is free is twice or thrice as good. :laugh: True, far too many people are too easily impressed with things that look nice over things that have real substance. In other words, they live in a consumer society and Vista is the ultimate consumer product because in order to run it at its best you have to buy more consumer products..... Most likely it was designed this way on purpose as well. This is also why the ones that were tricked into this way of thinking will attack those who haven't been so easily manipulated. Religion is really no different when it comes to the action of its believers to non-believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 With respect to Ubuntu being a "fake" distro, I have to object. I've used my fair share of OSes, from Win3.1 thru Vista on the desktop, Solaris, NetWare, OS/2 on servers, MacOS, and even a Unisys mainframe (oddly pleasant once you get used to it). In the Linux realm, I've used Red Hat (who hasn't?) Slackware, Gentoo, Fedora, Mandrake, and SuSE, and Ubuntu is by far my favourite Linux distro, with Slackware sneaking in at a close 2nd. Ubuntu was the first distro to recognize all of my laptop's devices and get them up and running perfectly, out of the box. The video configuration that took me 3 hours to figure out under Red Hat 9 were literally effortless under Gutsy. Now, in case anyone had any doubts (either on Neowin or in real life) I opted to Jedi my way through a new PC build by putting together the hardware and then doing an LFS build to make everything custom, in order to earn my Linux stripes. For desktop boxen and other systems where you control all the hardware that goes into it or can otherwise easily crack it open and pull model numbers, serial numbers, and other such info off the hardware (though admittedly software like Aida32 works okay on laptops), such distros are great. In more "closed" systems like laptops, though, there's really something to be said for a distro that "just works." This LFS build is largely for educational purposes and may well be the only time I'm going to do something like it, unless I feel the need to do so again on a different platform or whatever. I don't always have time to spend on putting things together like that, and when I do, I don't always want to spend my time that way. I get frustrated easily and to me, frustration is some seriously debilitating brain chemistry. Ubuntu and MacOS are two OSes that do a lot to stave off frustration by going out of their way to make some of the minutiae of the UI paradigm less obtuse and more fluid. This is worth the weight of my laptop battery in gold for the amount of headache, heartache, and handache (tip: metal PC cases from the mid-90s were f**ckin' built -- they hit back) it spares me when I'm trying to get real work done. I wholeheartedly believe in using Linux as an educational experience. Do Debian, do Slackware, do Stage-1 Gentoo or LFS, learn all you can. But don't rule out simplification because it isn't "hardcore." If anything it helps you look more hardcore for being able to crank out good results, fast on whatever it is you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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