+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 The PlayStation 2 certainly went beyond our own expectations last month, but even Sony says that its February sales from the NPD Group were a "surprise and delight." On the PlayStation 3 front, the company rubs its PlayStation 3 sales in Microsoft's face, starting off its statement with mention of the "sales eclipse" the console had over the Xbox 360. Great, kid. Don't get cocky.Some quick addition on Sony's part reveals that, with the help of the PSP, 875,969 hardware units across the PlayStation family were sold to gamers in the US of A. It capitalizes on another carefully chosen figure, pointing to $511 million in sales across the brand, more than Microsoft and Nintendo. The official statement puts a big focus on the future, with CEO Jack Tretton quoted as saying "Consumers are recognizing the tremendous value of PS3 and we believe that Blu-ray becoming the high-def format of choice was the tipping point for many consumers. With monster titles like Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and Grand Theft Auto IV launching in April and Metal Gear Solid 4 in June, we're demonstrating this is the year for PS3." Hurrah! The whole thing is below. PS3 Sales Eclipse Xbox 360 for Second Straight Month; Year-Over-Year Sales More Than Doubled Total PlayStation Hardware Unit Sales Top 875,969 PLAYSTATION?3 (PS3™) outsold Xbox 360 for the second straight month with 280,841 hardware units sold in February, 10% higher than Microsoft (according to NPD February 2008 sales data). Year-over-year this represents 120% sales growth. * Wait, There's More... Next month will see the introductions of heavyweights Grand Theft Auto IV and PS3-exclusive Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and June will usher in the monster 2008 title Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. And let's not forget DUALSHOCK?3 rumbles to North American retailers in April. The arsenal of 2008 blockbusters including LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, MotorStorm 2, and SingStar, combined with current momentum for Blu-ray, will further PS3 enthusiasm throughout the year. * PLAYSTATION?Network Is Burgeoning: Currently in North America there are more than 3.3 million registered PLAYSTATION Network accounts and more than 56 million total downloads life-to-date from PLAYSTATION?Store. PLAYSTATION Network total downloads exceeded 6.3 million in February 2008, compared to 6.6 million at the peak of the holiday season in December 2007. Only on PLAYSTATION Network can you find innovative games like Calling All Cars, Everyday Shooter, fl0w, PAIN, Tekken 5, Warhawk and Super Stardust. PSP? (PlayStation?Portable) continued its trend of strong sales with 243,115 PSP hardware units sold in February, representing a year-over-year increase of 38%. * If You Think February Sales Were Good... Rave reviews of God of War: Chains of Olympus, wipEout? PULSE and Patapon are already pouring in, not to mention the highly anticipated debut of Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII on March 25, which are expected to further PSP sales growth. PlayStation?2 (PS2) continues to surprise and delight mainstream audiences with hardware unit sales reaching 351,787 units. Additionally, for the third consecutive month PS2 sold more software units than any other console on the market, not only a testament to the staying power of PlayStation products, but also the incredible PlayStation software library. Power of the PlayStation Portfolio The PlayStation brand generated the most U.S. retail dollars in the industry for the second consecutive month with $511 million in sales, 52% and 6% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo, respectively. * Year to date (Jan-Feb), the PlayStation brand generated nearly $1 billion in the U.S. market, 56% and 15% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo, respectively. * PlayStation total hardware revenue was $204 million in February, 125% and 11% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo, respectively. * PlayStation total software revenue in February was $247 million, 32% and 5% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. CEO Perspective "Consumers are recognizing the tremendous value of PS3 and we believe that Blu-ray becoming the high-def format of choice was the tipping point for many consumers. With monster titles like Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and Grand Theft Auto IV launching in April and Metal Gear Solid 4 in June, we're demonstrating this is the year for PS3." - Jack Tretton, president and CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment America Source: http://kotaku.com/367770/sony-responds-to-...s-seems-pleased Gloat gloat gloat:laugh: :laugh: Two interesting things I'd take from this... One, we should watch PSP sales in next NPD's due to GoW, Patapon and Crisis Core all hitting this month. Two, for everyone who likes to bring up the PS3 not making much profit per unit sold (at least in the states - last we heard $400 to make, sold for $400. Europe is clear profit though due to pound:dollar rates), they have two other good selling devices raking in the profit. If the PS3 can sell over 300k that is one nice bit of revenue. * PlayStation total software revenue in February was $247 million, 32% and 5% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. I hope that means Sony can now be more adventurous with price cuts, as even if they put themselves in a position where they take a noticeable hit on units sold, the PS2 and PSP seem to easily recover that loss. Sony have 3 consoles on the market, Nintendo 2 and MS 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Big laughs for me :) "PS3 Sales Eclipse Xbox 360 for Second Straight Month" ? PlayStation 3 - 280,800 ? Xbox 360 - 254,600 I guess "Eclipse" is a bit strong for a 26k lead... but hey, it's Sony. And then calling "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue" a monster title, wake up Sony! It's not the demo people are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 Big laughs for me :)"PS3 Sales Eclipse Xbox 360 for Second Straight Month" • PlayStation 3 - 280,800 • Xbox 360 - 254,600 I guess "Eclipse" is a bit strong for a 26k lead... but hey, it's Sony. And then calling "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue" a monster title, wake up Sony! It's not the demo people are after. You'll probably get a wee shock at how well GT5 Prologue will sell. It's far more akin to a full retail game than any other prologue has been. Bundles bought with the game will also count towards GT5 Prologue sales. Motorstorm sales figs done the same thing, as a recent article said 3 million copies of it sold - But a good % of them were clearly due to the Motorstorm PS3 bundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I hope that means Sony can now be more adventurous with price cuts, as even if they put themselves in a position where they take a noticeable hit on units sold, the PS2 and PSP seem to easily recover that loss. Sony have 3 consoles on the market, Nintendo 2 and MS 1. I guess if it were not for the PS2, the PS3 wouldn't be retailing at $400 a pop. Let's just hope they keep milking the older generation so people can get new PS3's for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 I guess if it were not for the PS2, the PS3 wouldn't be retailing at $400 a pop. Let's just hope they keep milking the older generation so people can get new PS3's for cheap. Probably somewhat true, yes. Had Sony not been raking in profit on the PS2, it would be a lot more difficult to cut the PS3 price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I thought NPD counted USA and Canada sales. This article mentions just sales in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You'll probably get a wee shock at how well GT5 Prologue will sell.It's far more akin to a full retail game than any other prologue has been. Bundles bought with the game will also count towards GT5 Prologue sales. Motorstorm sales figs done the same thing, as a recent article said 3 million copies of it sold - But a good % of them were clearly due to the Motorstorm PS3 bundle. Come on Audio, bundling a game doesn't make it a monster title. Even GT5 is geared toward a specific audience, let alone a subset of the game. I'm thinking of buying it myself, but still don't consider it a monster title. GTA4... that's another story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 Come on Audio, bundling a game doesn't make it a monster title. Even GT5 is geared toward a specific audience, let alone a subset of the game. I'm thinking of buying it myself, but still don't consider it a monster title. GTA4... that's another story... GT is a big franchise for the PS brand, if you mock that, I seriously wonder where you've been the last x amount of years? Of course GTA4 is bigger, but GTA is argubaly the biggest franchise around, and it's multiplatform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Great news (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 GT is a big franchise for the PS brand, if you mock that, I seriously wonder where you've been the last x amount of years? Mostly drunk in bars... :) I'm not mocking, GT4 accounted an attach rate of less than 10%. Prologue 4 accounted 1%. You call those monster titles? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 Mostly drunk in bars... :)I'm not mocking, GT4 accounted an attach rate of less than 10%. Prologue 4 accounted 1%. You call those monster titles? I don't. It is a big franchise, people relate to GT a lot more than they do any other racing game. Gran Turismo (commonly abbreviated to GT or GT1) is a racing game designed by Kazunori Yamauchi. Gran Turismo was developed by Polyphony Digital and first published by Sony Computer Entertainment in 1997 for the PlayStation video game console. It was well-received publicly and critically, selling 2,550,000 copies in Japan, 10,000 in Southeast Asia, 4,300,000 in Europe, and 3,990,000 in North America as of December 2007 Gran Turismo 2 was developed by Polyphony Digital and published by Sony Computer Entertainment in 1999. The games serves as a sequel to Gran Turismo. It was well-received publicly and critically, selling 1,710,000 copies in Japan, 20,000 in Southeast Asia, 3,960,000 in North America, and 3,680,000 in Europe as of December 2007 As of December 2007, Gran Turismo 3 has sold 1,890,000 copies in Japan, 7,140,000 in North America, 5,840,000 in Europe, and 10,000 in Southeast Asia. As of December 2007, Gran Turismo 4 has sold 1,230,000 copies in Japan, 70,000 in Southeast Asia, 2,870,000 in North America, 5,640,000 in Europe, and 110,000 in Korea. Those are respectable sales for a driving/racing sim. No one would ever expect GT to sell as well as GTA. GTA caters for a wider audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 It is a big franchise, people relate to GT a lot more than they do any other racing game. It's big inside the genre of racing simulation, not in general. Those are respectable sales for a driving/racing sim. No one would ever expect GT to sell as well as GTA. When the install base is bigger than 100 million you get the big picture... GTA caters for a wider audience. That's exactly what makes GTA a monster title, because it caters to an immense audience. GT doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 It's big inside the genre of racing simulation, not in general.When the install base is bigger than 100 million you get the big picture... That's exactly what makes GTA a monster title, because it caters to an immense audience. GT doesn't. And your point? Put any game up against GTA, and GTA = monster title. It's an important and big franchise in the world of racing/car games - Argubaly industry leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 * PlayStation total hardware revenue was $204 million in February, 125% and 11% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo, respectively.* PlayStation total software revenue in February was $247 million, 32% and 5% higher than Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. I should hope so too. Considering sony have three formats, while nintendo have two and MS only have one. And considering the PS3 is more expensive than the 360 and wii, and the PSP is more expensive than the DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 And your point?Put any game up against GTA, and GTA = monster title. It's an important and big franchise in the world of racing/car games - Argubaly industry leader. It's really simple: GT isn't a monster title, maybe when it reaches 20%+ attach rates... or if you only consider racing games. Monster titles have high attach rates, they're mainstream, get it? Take Mario 64 as an example, it had an attach rate of 30%+, now that's a monster title. Mario Kart, Golden Eye... all above 25%. GT still isn't mainstream, maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 14, 2008 It's really simple: GT isn't a monster title, maybe when it reaches 20%+ attach rates... or if you only consider racing games.Monster titles have high attach rates, they're mainstream, get it? Take Mario 64 as an example, it had an attach rate of 30%+, now that's a monster title. Mario Kart, Golden Eye... all above 25%. GT still isn't mainstream, maybe someday. And I never said it was a "monster title". Well your definition of "monster title" seems to be something that sells in the region of GTA, and I even agreed GT is not in that ballpark. I said GT5 is a big, important franchise for the PS3. It is a large, well known name, brand and franchise. It also sells good figures for the genre of gaming it's in - Racing/cars - It's no suprise FPS/action and or/violent games sell better than racers. And I also said GT5 Prologue will sell better than you seemed to think it will. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Uh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-...mes_of_all_time 4. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 ? 15 million,[104] may include PC and Xbox versions) 5. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 ? 14.87 million)[91] 6. Pok?mon Gold and Silver (Game Boy Color ? 14.51 million approximately, 7.6 million in US,[14] 6.91 million in Japan)[36] 7. Pok?mon Diamond and Pearl (DS ? 14.17 million)[61] 8. Super Mario Land (Game Boy ? 14 million)[33] 9. New Super Mario Bros. (DS ? 13.14 million)[61] 10. Pok?mon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA ? 11. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 ? 12 million)[105] Grand Theft Auto III (PS2 ? 12 million,[104] may include PC and Xbox versions) d Xbox versions) 13. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS ? 11.71 million)[61] 14. Super Mario 64 (15. Gran Turismo (PS1 ? 10.85 million)[91] ? 10.85 million)[91] Seems like Gran Turismo hangs easily w/ GTA, on one single platform. If the GTA:Vice City number includes PC and XBox, what's the attach rate there? (120 million PS2, 25 million XBox, ??? million PC). edit: GT4 sold nearly 10 million copies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Is this guy actually trying to argue that GT isn't a monster title? :laugh: Wow... just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Is this guy actually trying to argue that GT isn't a monster title? :laugh: Wow... just wow. "This guy" was arguing that although GT is close, calling Prologue a monster title was ridiculous, considering previous versions. Numbers do the talking for me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoFX Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Don't try to weasel out of it now, by stating that a prologue can't be a monster..... =P GT is NOT close.... IT IS a monster title. GT5:P will sell, 1 million pre-orders so far.... Wasn't the argument about the brand? GT is HUGE, and gt5:p will sell better than any prologue before. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Don't try to weasel out of it now, by stating that a prologue can't be a monster..... =PGT is NOT close.... IT IS a monster title. GT5:P will sell, 1 million pre-orders so far.... Wasn't the argument about the brand? GT is HUGE, and gt5:p will sell better than any prologue before. Obviously. Weasel out? Please, do try and read from the beginning will you? Don't confuse big with monster, the gaming industry has grown alot during the last few years, so don't compare 1 million pre-orders in 2008 with 1 million 3 or 4 years ago. Just because it might be one of PlayStation's best selling titles doesn't mean it's a monster title. Let's consider GTA as an example, it will probably sell much more than GT5, for each platform. What are you gonna call it? Hyper monster title? This is just me reading numbers here, my opinion, so don't flip over it like some GT fanboys ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Reading some of the comments from GT-Fans is laughable. I'm a GT fan but GT5P is NOT a Monster title period. So what, it has 1 Million preorders so far, that could be a combination of pre-orders for the PS3+GT5P bundle and not just people pre-ordering the game alone. Now i consider GT5 full to be prehaps more of a monster title and that it the one alot will go for rather than buying some "demo prologue" that they don't care about. Just look at the numbers on previous GT Prologues and all of them never sold that well.....why? Because alot of people never cared about it, only the full game, not some demo. If anyone has any reason they think why i love to know :rolleyes: GT5P- NOT a Monster title, and never will be. (But i never said it will be a bad game) GT5 Full - This will be a huge game, so prehaps part-monster title, but not a true monster title. It order for it to be a monster title it needs much more PS3s sold first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 17, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted March 17, 2008 Reading some of the comments from GT-Fans is laughable. I'm a GT fan but GT5P is NOT a Monster title period. So what, it has 1 Million preorders so far, that could be a combination of pre-orders for the PS3+GT5P bundle and not just people pre-ordering the game alone.Now i consider GT5 full to be prehaps more of a monster title and that it the one alot will go for rather than buying some "demo prologue" that they don't care about. Just look at the numbers on previous GT Prologues and all of them never sold that well.....why? Because alot of people never cared about it, only the full game, not some demo. If anyone has any reason they think why i love to know :rolleyes: GT5P- NOT a Monster title, and never will be. (But i never said it will be a bad game) GT5 Full - This will be a huge game, so prehaps part-monster title, but not a true monster title. It order for it to be a monster title it needs much more PS3s sold first. You can't pre-order the bundle of PS3 + GTA5 Prologue yet. Weasel out? Please, do try and read from the beginning will you? Don't confuse big with monster, the gaming industry has grown alot during the last few years, so don't compare 1 million pre-orders in 2008 with 1 million 3 or 4 years ago. Just because it might be one of PlayStation's best selling titles doesn't mean it's a monster title.Let's consider GTA as an example, it will probably sell much more than GT5, for each platform. What are you gonna call it? Hyper monster title? This is just me reading numbers here, my opinion, so don't flip over it like some GT fanboys ok. You were discussing GT with me. I didn't realise how much it has sold compared to GTA until soniqstylz posted his table. Anyway this whole "monster title" argument is a joke. Just look at the previous sales, it is a massive franchise, full stop. GT5 Prologue is never going to sell what GT5 does, but it's certainly off to a good start with 1M pre-orders in Europe, and probably a healthy amount in America, and it sold well in Japan. If you want to try and micro-manage games into, massively massive franchise, huge franchise, big monster franchise, then feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trong Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 They should be pleased, they doing well in hardware sales right now. Not software just yet, though, but I'm sure it'll pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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