Dick Montage Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Hi I'm signed off work for 2 weeks so decided to get a 360. But there is some confusion. I know MS brought out a new model in the last few months, and I am also aware of last weeks price drop. Argos are selling the Pro/Premium console at the ?199 price point. But also with 5 free games - all of which suit me fine. But, it's the 360 Pro/Premium with Component AV cables, no HDMI. Is this one of the "old" or "buggy" consoles. In honesty component would suit me better as I don't have HDMI. But I would rather buy a new model console and trust it more, and then buy myself the cable I need. Can anyone shed some light. I mean, why is Argos still selling old consoles - bit naughty? Edited March 20, 2008 by njlouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8PP Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 All consoles (except the Elite), HDMI or not only come with the standard component AV cable. Check the lot number and power requirement on the label. Something like lot 0734 or higher, and the power consumption of 175W would be indicative of a falcon chipped 360 (203W for the previous HDMI zepher). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomnut Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 All new consoles come with an HDMI socket (including arcade), but only the elite comes with a HDMI cable. if you are going to get it from an argos store, check the box for a little sign saying 'With HDMI' or a manufacture date after sept last year or ask to look while the delivery guy is still there. I'm certain though if youre buying one from argos it'll be a new'un, they usually don't sell old models (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 Ah, but don't the newer ones at least have the HDMI logo/sticker on them? Sorry, can't see the box any more, have come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted March 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) You say it comes with only av cables instead of hdmi. the only sku that comes with an hdmi CABLE is the Elite. I'm sure the Pro you're looking at is a newer model with hdmi capability, just not the cable, which is to be expected. edit: oops, a little late Edited March 20, 2008 by jeston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/part...htext%3E360.htm But not much use... So, if I go back tomorrow and ask to see the back of the actual console, that should allay my worries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8PP Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Doubt they'll open the box for you to inspect, but on the box it will list HDMI as a feature somewhere ("HDMI Port" or logo), if the particular console has it. The SKU label is your best bet in determining how new the console is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 OK cheers. Will look at that. Thanks all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 You might also want to have a look at this little guide on using the HDMI of the 360: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=625565 (Sorry to peddle my own threads, but for a new buyer it's useful to know this stuff in advance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Right, quick update: 1) The ASDA models were the 2nd Gen 360s 2) GameStation had a good deal but were out of stock of Pro models 3) Game again did me proud, good deal on a 3rd Gen 360. ?219 for the Pro and 1 free game (the new Rainbow Vegas thing). Also, the local "geeky" computer/comic store were selling part of the old special offer. So for ?25 I got: * Wireless gamepad * Viva Pinata * Forza 2 Am well happy. Am gonna get it set up, sign up for the free L!VE trial and let random strangers kick my as:):) Thanks you guys for helping me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Well, all that was in vain, as it have now crashed on me 4 times in a row. No red rings, but mid-game it will just halt and not respond to anything other than a reboot. It was in the horizontal position, loads of airflow, and not overly warm. It sounds like a rash comment, but I can only comment as I find. The 360 is a joke! Such a shame, cos I had massive hopes for this :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted March 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2008 Well, all that was in vain, as it have now crashed on me 4 times in a row.No red rings, but mid-game it will just halt and not respond to anything other than a reboot. It was in the horizontal position, loads of airflow, and not overly warm. It sounds like a rash comment, but I can only comment as I find. The 360 is a joke! Such a shame, cos I had massive hopes for this :( Really? Damn, sorry to hear that :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Won't be an issue, will return it tomorrow. I give everything a chance. But should it bugger up twice, then BAM, I go PS3 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeratlarge Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 This maybe a stupid question but, is it the same game that keeps crashing? I have had my 360 since December and I have had no crashes at all. It is a HDMI enabled 175w model. Sometimes the thing is on all day, playing games and videos. Might be that rather than the 360 itself. That being said, returning for a new one is always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 njlouch, take that box back asap. It's certainly not normal behaviour, so just take it straight back. Might have got knocked in shelf stacking or anything could have happened. Also check your disc - 360s can lock up entirely with scratched discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyT Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Look at the box's barcode. If it says 175 watt, it's the new one (it has HDMI). If it says 203 watt, it's the old one (HDMI or non HDMI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 It's a 175w version. It does it on 2 games SO FAR: 1) Forza 2 = Brand new 2) Star Trek Legacy = Pre Owned Both are clean disks, no scratches. I have been on to xbox support, and will take it back to the store tomorrow. It's REALLY disappointing, as the fiancee and I were looking forward to playing on it tonight. I am wondering how rude it would be to ask for something to compensate, such as a 1 month live, or some gamerpoints from the store that sold it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomnut Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 If you don't ask, you don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coded Matrix Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The 360 is actually really good. I've had one and haven't had any problems. Make sure that it has ample cooling space though ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Yeah that's definitely very irregular behaviour. In fact, I don't think I've heard of symptoms quite like that for the 360. Failing drives, the obligitory RROD, occational crash (rare), but nothing that bad. Definitely take it back and get it exchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 22, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted March 22, 2008 Only games that have ever frozen on me are Army of Two and Bully. Bully I believe due to the issues everyone was getting. Hope your replacement runs better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 Well, got my 2nd one. 2 hours in and all still running fine. Also got it wired up via component now - so all HD goodness (1080i). Connected the optical but got nothing out so only running stereo at the moment. Game were 100% fine. "I remember you, pass it here will swap immediately". I dislike the company but this one store is always great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I think to enable the optical, you need to go into the console setup on the dashboard (far right tab) and pick "Dolby Digital" under sound options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 Ah, I did that - but nothing. Gonna be hard to work out though, as I don't 100% trust my surround sound system! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 You should make the surround sound work :) It's half the fun. (Ok, half the fun is having a fiance that will play console games with you :):) enjoy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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