Against my better judgement, I bought GT5: Prologue....


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Personally, I would never pay money for a demo of any released game, let alone the $60 odd dollars it costs for GT Prologue here in Australia. Save your money, get the full game when its released, because frankly, as mentioned above, you payed $60 too much for a 'glorified demo'.

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Personally, I would never pay money for a demo of any released game, let alone the $60 odd dollars it costs for GT Prologue here in Australia. Save your money, get the full game when its released, because frankly, as mentioned above, you payed $60 too much for a 'glorified demo'.

Actually it's ?19.99 over here, not too bad.

Granted, it is just an extended demo, but people know that before they buy it.

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Its still half price a normal game. And its for a game that is roughly 40% complete. I'm sorry, I just cant see the logic in it. Sure its been years in the making, but surely waiting another year or two for the full product is worth saving your money for this 'demo'. Im sorry theres just no logic in selling this to the public, apart from being just greedy.

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Its still half price a normal game. And its for a game that is roughly 40% complete. I'm sorry, I just cant see the logic in it. Sure its been years in the making, but surely waiting another year or two for the full product is worth saving your money for this 'demo'. Im sorry theres just no logic in selling this to the public, apart from being just greedy.

Then dont buy it lol

Nobody is forcing you to, I dont see how it's greedy to offer a preview of a game, example, if Konami wanted to test MGS4, and sold an extended preview of the game for ?20, Id jump at the chance to play it. The same with the new GTA game, just give me one functional island, and it would give me a chance to see if the game matched the hype.

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PS3 games here in turkey are 100 US dollars :(

sad but true.

anyway. i will give it a try... I will buy it and see how it plays... I am sure prologue wont be the 1/4 of the actualy GT5.

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I'm very disappointed with it - it FEELS like a demo and if this is any indication of the GT5 finished product, I will be avoiding it completely.

It doesn't exactly start well, does it? Installation is amazingly long - we're talking 25-30 minutes. Then it's a further 30 minutes for the download update.

thats odd, took me less than 25minutes to update my ps3 to 2.20, install gt5p and race 2 events, exagerating much?

Fine, it's all installed and updated. We get a nice intro. Nothing fantastic but it's passable - it's not like there's a dramatic storyline to outline. Just some nice elevator music and various shots of cars going around corners.

what do you want from a racing game? cars doing cartwheels?

The GUI menu options are clear enough but they are incredibly slow - buying your car is a painful experience between swapping around manufacturers - are those badge displays REALLY required to be so long? It feels like one big advert.

It takes too many menu option clicks to display the important information about the car - I don't care that the cars in the front menu are coloured in Prancing Elephant Yellow - I want to know its BHP, RPM, and drive and weight.

i agree the menu is kinda slow, but you can see the stats of cars before getting to the colour selection so i don't see how 3 menu options is too many (1 for dealership, 1 for manufacturer, 1 for showroom and you're at the cars with stats)

The car choices are moderately nice but where's the customization? A small glimpse of the tools we can use to enhance our cars would've been nice. As it is, you're stuck with stock cars.

cars are customisable after completing A/B/C class events (you also get an extra S class), guess you didn't play it much then? :p

Then we come to the races - the only decent view is the in-car view (without the steering wheel etc). The view from outside and behind the vehicle looks warped - your cars seem ENORMOUS compared to one that is level with you and look massive compared to most track widths. Something wrong with the perspective....?

in-car view with no steering wheel being what? the one on top of the car or the one on the front bumper? the views are either: front bumper, in the driving seat (the best imo), on the roof at the front and finally behind the car

Online play is poor - it's more like a game of dodgems than a precise racing simulation.

sounds like a problem with the people racing to me, if you're racing people who can't drive whose fault is that?

What's with the bizarre collision penalties? I was racing the Daytona Speedring and came up the outside of 4 cars (which incidentally were teleporting from one side of the track to the other...!?!?) and they appeared next to me. Next thing, I'm facing the wrong direction with a 6 second collision penalty? WHY!!?!?

Why do you sometimes go straight through a car with no collision..yet other times the slightest nudge sends you wildly arcing on a looping skid?

the cars are moving side to side to get past each other, they don't just sit behind each other and stay in formation :rolleyes: the collisions can be a bit unpredictable at times, i've had penalties for lesser shunts than at other times but people want damage for collisions but don't like taking penalties for hitting other cars? being hit from the side shouldn't make your car spin unless you cant drive :whistle:

as for going through cars that is when you have taken a penalty so you can't force your way past a car by ramming it off the road, take the penalty and force the other car to stay behind you, perfectly fair imo

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thats odd, took me less than 25minutes to update my ps3 to 2.20, install gt5p and race 2 events, exagerating much?

what do you want from a racing game? cars doing cartwheels?

i agree the menu is kinda slow, but you can see the stats of cars before getting to the colour selection so i don't see how 3 menu options is too many (1 for dealership, 1 for manufacturer, 1 for showroom and you're at the cars with stats)

cars are customisable after completing A/B/C class events (you also get an extra S class), guess you didn't play it much then? :p

in-car view with no steering wheel being what? the one on top of the car or the one on the front bumper? the views are either: front bumper, in the driving seat (the best imo), on the roof at the front and finally behind the car

sounds like a problem with the people racing to me, if you're racing people who can't drive whose fault is that?

the cars are moving side to side to get past each other, they don't just sit behind each other and stay in formation :rolleyes: the collisions can be a bit unpredictable at times, i've had penalties for lesser shunts than at other times but people want damage for collisions but don't like taking penalties for hitting other cars? being hit from the side shouldn't make your car spin unless you cant drive :whistle:

as for going through cars that is when you have taken a penalty so you can't force your way past a car by ramming it off the road, take the penalty and force the other car to stay behind you, perfectly fair imo

I'll concede the point about customization!

For the rest..it's most likely down to opinions. I'm not going to give up on the game yet but after 4hrs gaming, I wasn't really awestruck :( and I expected to be.

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Seems a lot of people are disappointed with the Prologue experience...

You cant please everybody. I was more than disappointed with my Wii experience. See?

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GT is a real driving simulator right?

They call it that, yes. Its very realistic in the way the cars handle. It does need a damage model, but thats on its way. :woot:

Why do you ask?

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The reason I ask is mostly all game (Forza, PGR and GT) they all give you penalty on collation, but my question is does in real race anyone going to count how many seconds I kept hitting the guy next to me. Also how my seconds my wheel was on the dirt.

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ok just got the game... since it was a demo it was 75 US dollars here in Turkey. Full version would be 100... Anyway.. So far i just made a quick race.

Got a mini cooper. The driving is easier than Need for speed pro. but somehow i do not get the sense of speed as if in 120 miles i feel like doing 60. But we shall see later. Installation is not that bad just 10 mins. however this pursuaded me to change my harddisk to 250 gb instead of the 40 version. I could not download the patch it gave me an error and will try again now.

I love the menus. so far a good game. but no sense of speed yet.

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The reason I ask is mostly all game (Forza, PGR and GT) they all give you penalty on collation, but my question is does in real race anyone going to count how many seconds I kept hitting the guy next to me. Also how my seconds my wheel was on the dirt.

Its a game. Not real life. Not everything is going to be the same as real life, it wouldnt be a game then would it?

The 'sim' reference is aimed at the handling of the cars.

ok just got the game... since it was a demo it was 75 US dollars here in Turkey. Full version would be 100... Anyway.. So far i just made a quick race.

Got a mini cooper. The driving is easier than Need for speed pro. but somehow i do not get the sense of speed as if in 120 miles i feel like doing 60. But we shall see later. Installation is not that bad just 10 mins. however this pursuaded me to change my harddisk to 250 gb instead of the 40 version. I could not download the patch it gave me an error and will try again now.

I love the menus. so far a good game. but no sense of speed yet.

Wait until you get into the higher classes.

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I think you were too harsh on the car selection part. This is a racing simulator, therefore they're going to give you all this useless information and everything about the cars even if you don't need it. All the GT games do this, so its nothing new. I don't know if its worse in prologue but I know in GT4, there was a lot of useless info about the cars, but I liked it because it showed how much depth was in the game.

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GT games have never been good at letting you get a sense of speed in my opinion. Usually you realize your doing 200km/h when you slide into the dirt, other than that it feels like your cruising along... I can't say anything about GT5P though.

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GT games have never been good at letting you get a sense of speed in my opinion. Usually you realize your doing 200km/h when you slide into the dirt, other than that it feels like your cruising along... I can't say anything about GT5P though.

The constant 60fps in GT:P helps you feel like you are going fast. The first Class C cars are nothing, wait till you have a Ferrari, or Aston burning round the track.

Its quick then :D

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Is sony planning on updating PS3 40 Gig model BC. I have 80 & 40 gig version :( , I am just hopeing they would.

Whats has this got to do with the topic??

To answer you, no they are not. The 40GB doesnt play PS2 games at all, and never will.

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Geezz just asking, I just wanted to play GT4 (don?t' have access to 80 gig version right now) and didn't wanted to make a new thread about it.

And thanks for the answer.

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PS3 games here in turkey are 100 US dollars :(

sad but true.

anyway. i will give it a try... I will buy it and see how it plays... I am sure prologue wont be the 1/4 of the actualy GT5.

Just about the same price as in norway..

And, further on...i thought gt5 Prologue was THE game...and it's really just a preview of what to expect in 2009/10?

To pay for this, is just wrong...well, it should at least not have costed more than the cost of the disk and shipping.

And it should have been free online.

I'm not a fanboy of any kind, but it is just wrong to make fans pay full prise for this, so Sony, shame on you (or whatever company is distributing it).

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I'm not a fanboy of any kind, but it is just wrong to make fans pay full prise for this, so Sony, shame on you (or whatever company is distributing it).

So its wrong to be paying for a game with over 60 cars, 5 tracks, online and offline multiplayer, car tuning options, "TV channel" and the promise of more DLC...???

Sure, its a preview. The Demo was the Suzuka track and couple of cars that was on the japanese store. But still, a preview that has more content than alot of fully fledged games. Well, its well worth my ?20

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Just about the same price as in norway..

And, further on...i thought gt5 Prologue was THE game...and it's really just a preview of what to expect in 2009/10?

To pay for this, is just wrong...well, it should at least not have costed more than the cost of the disk and shipping.

And it should have been free online.

I'm not a fanboy of any kind, but it is just wrong to make fans pay full prise for this, so Sony, shame on you (or whatever company is distributing it).

Its not just a demo. It has as much content as some full games!!

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