PSW Confirms Exclusive GTA4 DLC for the PS3 and Home Inclusion


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According to Playstation World Magazine, Rockstar will in a way aid Sony in launching Accomplishments for the system, Themed spaces for Home and provide exclusive content for the PS3 (although not as large scale as the 360's exclusive content) after the release of the 360's episodes.

Source: http://n4g.com/News-129170.aspx

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I think nearly every PS3 game coming out now is ramping up support for Home.

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I dunno..

a virtual apartment I'll never use vs actual in game content

I think actual in game content wins on this one :)

The article does state that the PS3 version will also have in-game DLC; it just won't be as amazing or big as in the Xbox 360 version. Both Sony and Rockstar Games have said from the beginning that the PS3 version will be getting its own DLC, seperate from the Xbox 360 stuff that Microsoft shelled out the rumored $50 million for.

Another thing to consider is that $50 million Microsoft spent for the Xbox 360 DLC has never been explicitly stated whether or not it is exclusive or just timed exclusive. So, there is still a chance that maybe 12 months or something down the road, PlayStation 3 owners will be able to enjoy the same stuff Xbox 360 owners got earlier.

In the end, I think both versions will be great and that "exclusive" DLC that Xbox 360 owners get shouldn't be a determining factor in what version to buy. If you happen to own both systems, then get the Xbox 360 one. If you own neither, then you have a choice to make. Either a $349 Xbox 360 with a 20GB HDD, or a $399 PlayStation 3 with a 40GB HDD and built-in Blu-ray Disc player (which is actually meaningful now, since Blu-ray has officially won the format war).

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Awesome way better than the DLC in my opinion. (Y)

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Either way nice to see support for home. Unfortunately I still want the exclusive content so I guess it's still 360 for me.

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The article does state that the PS3 version will also have in-game DLC; it just won't be as amazing or big as in the Xbox 360 version.

Slightly longer spikes for the bat and 'car armor' anyone? :p

Okay, I keed. I keed.

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:|

Either way nice to see support for home. Unfortunately I still want the exclusive content so I guess it's still 360 for me.

The PS3 will get content.

I dont get why people are so caught up in the whole exclusive DLC thing. Its going to be released when you are still playing through the core game, and cost you more money (knowing MS, lots more money)

GTA will be huge without the DLC. The DLC wont add anything to the online play either.

Dont get it, at all. GTA belongs on the PS platform, always has and for that reason I wont be picking up the 360 version (and it will more than likely blow my 360 up!!)

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Dont get it, at all. GTA belongs on the PS platform, always has

Which is of course why there have been PC versions of every single GTA game. And every single 3D GTA has also been on an Xbox console... GTA doesn't 'belong' anywhere, it's as multiplatform as they come.

That's like someone saying Final Fantasy belongs on a Nintendo platform, except worse because those games are at the very least usually exclusives even if platform changes.

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Which is of course why there have been PC versions of every single GTA game. And every single 3D GTA has also been on an Xbox console... GTA doesn't 'belong' anywhere, it's as multiplatform as they come.

That's like someone saying Final Fantasy belongs on a Nintendo platform, except worse because those games are at the very least usually exclusives even if platform changes.

Let me re-word it. Its always played better on the PS platforms and until recently, the PS version was always first to market. It just seems that GTA is at home on the PS.

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Dont get it, at all. GTA belongs on the PS platform, always has and for that reason I wont be picking up the 360 version (and it will more than likely blow my 360 up!!)

How does it "belong" on any one platform? If anything GTA has always worked best on the PC.

the PS version was always first to market.

That was for business (money) purposes, not technical/creative reasons.

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How does it "belong" on any one platform? If anything GTA has always worked best on the PC.

That was for business (money) purposes, not technical/creative reasons.

Doesn't matter what it was for, it was first to market on the PS platforms. In my opinion the game has always been better on the console, and the PS.

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Let me re-word it. Its always played better on the PS platforms and until recently, the PS version was always first to market. It just seems that GTA is at home on the PS.

INCREDIBLY debatable. Mouse aiming alone is enough for many to ignore that you ever said that.

IIRC GTA came out for the PC before the PlayStation version. GTA2 less than a week separated release dates for the two platforms (Dreamcast a year later). GTA3 was the first to have a significant difference, and it's no secret why.

In my opinion the game has always been better on the console, and the PS.

Quit stating opinion as fact then.

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Where did I state opinion as fact? If you're stupid enough to think that, thats not my problem. Do I really have to put 'in my opinion' in everything I type?

Of course me saying GTA is better on the PS is opinion. :rolleyes:

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Dont get it, at all. GTA belongs on the PS platform, always has and for that reason I wont be picking up the 360 version (and it will more than likely blow my 360 up!!)

no actually it belongs on the PC platform by your logi, since that's where GTA and GTA2 was.

Also the PS ad xbox versions have been identcal in gameplay, though the xbox versions have had slightly better graphics due to the xbox being more powerfull.

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I don't get this "such-and-such a franchise belongs on such-and-such a platform". It doesn't make sense. The name of the platform doesn't affect the game at ALL. The platform itself might, but the PS3 and 360 versions are going to be identical bar some different DLC. It's like admitting you only want one console at any one time and don't care about competition.

If the 360 and the Wii didn't exist, do you really think Sony would have jumped to reduce the price of the PS3 so much? I reckon it'd still be hitting the $500 mark.

GTA is a multi-platform game. It always has been and always will be, so get it on whatever platform is best for you. I don't own a PS3, so my choice is easy, but if you happen to own both consoles (or are deciding on which console to get), do some research - is blu-ray really important to you? Are there many more games on one platform that you want to play? What are your friends getting it on (for the multiplayer)? These are the real factors you should be considering, not "does it have the PS logo on the box?". Otherwise, you're only risking spiting yourself and loosing out.

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Let me re-word it. Its always played better on the PS platforms and until recently, the PS version was always first to market. It just seems that GTA is at home on the PS.

Its always been home on the PC... Just because the PS2 got the game a few months before the xbox doesnt mean anything.

Tables have turned this time around, Same release date but 360 users get more bang for their buck through DLC and the fact that the game is cheaper to buy in stores...

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I don't get this "such-and-such a franchise belongs on such-and-such a platform". It doesn't make sense. The name of the platform doesn't affect the game at ALL. The platform itself might, but the PS3 and 360 versions are going to be identical bar some different DLC. It's like admitting you only want one console at any one time and don't care about competition.

If the 360 and the Wii didn't exist, do you really think Sony would have jumped to reduce the price of the PS3 so much? I reckon it'd still be hitting the $500 mark.

GTA is a multi-platform game. It always has been and always will be, so get it on whatever platform is best for you. I don't own a PS3, so my choice is easy, but if you happen to own both consoles (or are deciding on which console to get), do some research - is blu-ray really important to you? Are there many more games on one platform that you want to play? What are your friends getting it on (for the multiplayer)? These are the real factors you should be considering, not "does it have the PS logo on the box?". Otherwise, you're only risking spiting yourself and loosing out.

It's easy to understand.

Because GTA sold 90:10 for PS2 in the past, many believe that will be enough to catch some of the casual buyers this time around as they were familiar with GTA and PS2/PS brand.

No one knows how/if that's going to happen so I don't need my head blown off with "360 CHEAPER! LAUNCH AT SAME TIME!" - It's just a belief Sony/others have/speculate on.

GTA has always been a multi-platform game, it's just not sold as well on xbox for obvious reasons, timed launch, poor uptake of the xbox - Things that aren't the same this time around.

No one is going to lose out depending on which platform they buy on, friends will typically buy on the same platform their friends buy on. In the case of a split in friends, it may just depend on your platform of choice, rather than what your friends get it for - As either platform will have friends. The situation im in!

What you listed as the "real factors" certainly are true, those are the things you should look at. One thing to consider though, there will probably be a decent number of people picking up a next-gen console for the first time, just to keep up to date with GTA4 - Those sales could go either way, even if one platform is cheaper it doesn't necessarily guarantee you the sale - Just like you listed, more reasons to think about come into play.

It's not all going to be one-way traffic, sales should be pretty close if you ask me (overall), but one of the two will walk away with more sales. Thing is, that could take a year, as opposed to 6 months to remedy...

But im sure everyone will be following and commenting on the week-to-week sales :p

Its always been home on the PC... Just because the PS2 got the game a few months before the xbox doesnt mean anything.

Tables have turned this time around, Same release date but 360 users get more bang for their buck through DLC and the fact that the game is cheaper to buy in stores...

I can see you read into the rumour, but didn't read up on the answer :p

It's been confirmed they will be the same price in stores.

Earlier this week a number of websites began writing stories claiming that the PlayStation 3 version of Grand Theft Auto IV would cost more than the Xbox 360 version in the UK. The rumor began at Videogaming247 and was based on a poster hung in the window of a branch of WH Smith.

The recommended retail price of games is set by their distributor and like all other Rockstar Games titles released in the UK, GTA IV will be handled by Gem. On its website today, Gem lists the Recommended Retail Price of GTA IV on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 as being ?49.99.

The RRP of a title is a guide for retailers to follow when pricing titles. It's not the price which the retailer pays for each unit (this is considerably less) and it is the retailer's decision how much to discount each title, if at all. There are hundreds of retailers in the UK which sell video games, so if it's not being sold at a fair price in your local store, try further afield.

At the time of going to press, the cheapest available price in the UK was ?34.99, advertised by Amazon.co.uk for both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Source: http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1215

Just because the PS2 got the game a few months before the xbox doesnt mean anything.


This time around for GTA4, or for GTA3/Vice/San An? It certainly made a difference for the past 3, a landslide in sales difference.

Due to the timed exclusiveness for previous titles, in relation to GTA4, that's what me/Kushan and many others are discussing - Will people buy a PS3, as the PS2 is what they were used to/had to play GTA on?

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It's easy to understand.

Because GTA sold 90:10 for PS2 in the past, many believe that will be enough to catch some of the casual buyers this time around as they were familiar with GTA and PS2/PS brand.

No one knows how/if that's going to happen so I don't need my head blown off with "360 CHEAPER! LAUNCH AT SAME TIME!" - It's just a belief Sony/others have/speculate on.

GTA has always been a multi-platform game, it's just not sold as well on xbox for obvious reasons, timed launch, poor uptake of the xbox - Things that aren't the same this time around.

No one is going to lose out depending on which platform they buy on, friends will typically buy on the same platform their friends buy on. In the case of a split in friends, it may just depend on your platform of choice, rather than what your friends get it for - As either platform will have friends.

What you listed as the "real factors" certainly are true, those are the things you should look at. One thing to consider though, there will probably be a decent number of people picking up a next-gen console for the first time, just to keep up to date with GTA4 - Those sales could go either way, even if one platform is cheaper it doesn't necessarily guarantee you the sale - Just like you listed, more reasons to think about come into play.

It's not all going to be one-way traffic, sales should be pretty close if you ask me (overall), but one of the two will walk away with more sales. Thing is, that could take a year, as opposed to 6 months to remedy...

But im sure everyone will be following and commenting on the week-to-week sales :p

I can see you read into the rumour, but didn't read up on the answer :p

It's been confirmed they will be the same price in stores.

Even for a casual buyer, that still doesn't make sense. They may be familliar with it being on a playstation console, but why would that affect what console they buy it on if they're looking at both in the store? If anything, it would more likely just create a "oh it's on both this time" reaction and the same things would factor into their decision to buy it - which is best for them.

Negating rumours that the PS3 version is going to be more expensive in the UK, they'll probably just ask the store clerk which is better and then it's all down to HIS opinion, but if he's good he'll say "they're both identical, but the 360 version should have more content down the line". This is assuming Microsoft doesn't bother putting a big ad campaign on to highlight the DLC difference, which I doubt they will. And that's a problem because unless you've been following GTA4 for a while now, you have no way of knowing - especially if you're just a casual gamer.

If you really think previous sales are going to make a blind bit of difference, I could point out that Devil May Cry only ever sold on the PS2, yet DMC4 sold just as well on the 360 as it did on the PS3.

As for the "new console" people, it's not like there's a small difference in price between the PS3 and the 360. Anything beyond ?50 difference (and that's exaggerating quite a bit) is going to make them stop and go "huh...so what's so good about the PS3, then?" and once again, it'll probably be the store clerk that tells them what to go for. But if they just want GTA, they're going to see it as saving ?100 rather than gaining a great blu-ray player.

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I can see you read into the rumour, but didn't read up on the answer :p

It's been confirmed they will be the same price in stores.

Ha... Guess you caught me out there :blush:

Normally just read the news headlines and move on... Good to know i guess.

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Even for a casual buyer, that still doesn't make sense. They may be familliar with it being on a playstation console, but why would that affect what console they buy it on if they're looking at both in the store? If anything, it would more likely just create a "oh it's on both this time" reaction and the same things would factor into their decision to buy it - which is best for them.

Negating rumours that the PS3 version is going to be more expensive in the UK, they'll probably just ask the store clerk which is better and then it's all down to HIS opinion, but if he's good he'll say "they're both identical, but the 360 version should have more content down the line". This is assuming Microsoft doesn't bother putting a big ad campaign on to highlight the DLC difference, which I doubt they will. And that's a problem because unless you've been following GTA4 for a while now, you have no way of knowing - especially if you're just a casual gamer.

If you really think previous sales are going to make a blind bit of difference, I could point out that Devil May Cry only ever sold on the PS2, yet DMC4 sold just as well on the 360 as it did on the PS3.

As for the "new console" people, it's not like there's a small difference in price between the PS3 and the 360. Anything beyond ?50 difference (and that's exaggerating quite a bit) is going to make them stop and go "huh...so what's so good about the PS3, then?" and once again, it'll probably be the store clerk that tells them what to go for. But if they just want GTA, they're going to see it as saving ?100 rather than gaining a great blu-ray player.

Well for a casual gamer, they will have played other franchises on the PS2, as it's safe to assume the majority who played GTA3->San An played it on a PS2.

That comes into play as one of your other questions as to which console to pick it up on was "what other games/franchises does the platform offer?".

Most will just assume there will be another GoW, FF, GT, MGS, ect.

If you really think previous sales are going to make a blind bit of difference, I could point out that Devil May Cry only ever sold on the PS2, yet DMC4 sold just as well on the 360 as it did on the PS3.

I think they will make a difference, but I don't know to what extent yet. Some people think it won't make ANY difference, fair enough, we'll have to wait and see.

GTA San An, sold about 12+ million copies on the PS2, GTA4 should sell more, so that's a lot of copies to be distributed.

I know the 360 has a 17.7 million install base, but if anyone thinks the majority, or even all of those 12 million PS2 owners interested in GTA are included in the 17.7 million 360 owners, I'd ask you to think again.

12 million was for San An, when the PS2 no doubt had an 70/80-100 million install base.

That is only to show you how strong the brand was on the PS2 previously, I believe GTA sales were in the 20 millions overall when you include xbox and PC sales.

These figures are what many are looking at, and even with same time launch this time around, many are thinking "hmmm, how many PS2 owners are going to be lost to the 360?" Some think not enough to catapult the 360 infront of the PS3 on GTA4 sales, some think what id assume half/more than half of them coming to the 360 to give the 360 the lead.

Of course that's not coupling in new sales, as as I said above, I fully expect GTA4 to sell more than San Andreas, due to the uptake in gaming in general (a lot of that due to the Wii), and also it being due to GTA4 going to obliterate anything we've seen before with the GTA bran(Y)Y)

As for the "new console" people, it's not like there's a small difference in price between the PS3 and the 360. Anything beyond ?50 difference (and that's exaggerating quite a bit) is going to make them stop and go "huh...so what's so good about the PS3, then?" and once again, it'll probably be the store clerk that tells them what to go for. But if they just want GTA, they're going to see it as saving ?100 rather than gaining a great blu-ray player.

Very true for those that didn't own a PS2, but those that did, like I said above, may have no issues rebuying into the PS brand due to other titles/franchises they liked on the PS2 - Even at the PS3's slighty higher price.

GTA might be the first major title they'd play on a PS3, due to what we've seen so far on the PS3 being either non-AAA franchises, or completely new IPs. Crap territory, or completely undiscovered territory for many - No reason to buy a PS3 theref:pe :p

All im saying is dontotally write off what happened in the past as being unrelated and having NO effect what so ever this time around.

The reason for all the speculation amongst gamers and between Sony/MS is sales for this title really are going to be interesting to watch run out.

Us, who are totally educated in everything gaming, the second it happens, can't really make the decision for those that don't know - We seem to think we can put ourselves in the shoes of the casual buyer. While we make some points/decisions we THINK casual buyers will follow, I think it's really just down to waiting and seeing what they do for the end all and be all answer.

Right now all we are doing is chucking around ideas of what might happen, for different scenarios - Nothing wrong with doing that, all of us are making valid points on the whole - I just think the casual bunch can be quite hard to predict at times.

I mean on paper, why did people support Blu Ray movies over HD DVD movies? On paper, HD DVD was/looked to be a far better and cheaper investment.

Which leads us onto the discussion of marketing - In the upcoming weeks it's going to be really interesting to see what Sony/MS pull off - As a bad marketing campaign/or a really good marketing campaign can completely change the discussions we are having above IMO.

Ha... Guess you caught me out the:blush:ush:

Normally just read the news headlines and move on... Good to know i guess.

Don't worry, the minute I read the initial rumour I was like FFS Sony, what the hell are you playing at? I was about to chalk it up as the biggest mistake in a long time/biggest marketing blunder.

So I followed the story clos:py :p

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Well for a casual gamer, they will have played other franchises on the PS2, as it's safe to assume the majority who played GTA3->San An played it on a PS2.

That comes into play as one of your other questions as to which console to pick it up on was "what other games/franchises does the platform offer?".

Most will just assume there will be another GoW, FF, GT, MGS, ect.

I think they will make a difference, but I don't know to what extent yet. Some people think it won't make ANY difference, fair enough, we'll have to wait and see.

GTA San An, sold about 12+ million copies on the PS2, GTA4 should sell more, so that's a lot of copies to be distributed.

I know the 360 has a 17.7 million install base, but if anyone thinks the majority, or even all of those 12 million PS2 owners interested in GTA are included in the 17.7 million 360 owners, I'd ask you to think again.

12 million was for San An, when the PS2 no doubt had an 70/80-100 million install base.

That is only to show you how strong the brand was on the PS2 previously, I believe GTA sales were in the 20 millions overall when you include xbox and PC sales.

These figures are what many are looking at, and even with same time launch this time around, many are thinking "hmmm, how many PS2 owners are going to be lost to the 360?" Some think not enough to catapult the 360 infront of the PS3 on GTA4 sales, some think what id assume half/more than half of them coming to the 360 to give the 360 the lead.

Of course that's not coupling in new sales, as as I said above, I fully expect GTA4 to sell more than San Andreas, due to the uptake in gaming in general (a lot of that due to the Wii), and also it being due to GTA4 going to obliterate anything we've seen before with the GTA brand (Y)

Very true for those that didn't own a PS2, but those that did, like I said above, may have no issues rebuying into the PS brand due to other titles/franchises they liked on the PS2 - Even at the PS3's slighty higher price.

GTA might be the first major title they'd play on a PS3, due to what we've seen so far on the PS3 being either non-AAA franchises, or completely new IPs. Crap territory, or completely undiscovered territory for many - No reason to buy a PS3 therefore :p

All im saying is don't totally write off what happened in the past as being unrelated and having NO effect what so ever this time around.

The reason for all the speculation amongst gamers and between Sony/MS is sales for this title really are going to be interesting to watch run out.

Us, who are totally educated in everything gaming, the second it happens, can't really make the decision for those that don't know - We seem to think we can put ourselves in the shoes of the casual buyer. While we make some points/decisions we THINK casual buyers will follow, I think it's really just down to waiting and seeing what they do for the end all and be all answer.

Right now all we are doing is chucking around ideas of what might happen, for different scenarios - Nothing wrong with doing that, all of us are making valid points on the whole - I just think the casual bunch can be quite hard to predict at times.

I mean on paper, why did people support Blu Ray movies over HD DVD movies? On paper, HD DVD was/looked to be a far better and cheaper investment.

Which leads us onto the discussion of marketing - In the upcoming weeks it's going to be really interesting to see what Sony/MS pull off - As a bad marketing campaign/or a really good marketing campaign can completely change the discussions we are having above IMO.

Why are you still quoting sales of GTA on the PS2? That really wont make a difference. The main reason GTA sold more on the PS2 was the larger install base. 120million PS2's versus what, 24million xboxes? Of course it's going to sell more on the PS2. That plus the timed launch, of course, but the install base is a big, big factor.

This time around, the 360 has the greater install base and it's well known it can ship more games than the PS3 or Wii can, so Microsoft has that in it's favour.

When it comes down to it, there's a certain percentage of people that will want GTA4. Using the PS2 as an example, we can say that roughly 10% of PS2 owners bought the game brand new, I wouldn't be all that surprised if San Andreas sold around 2.4Million on the Xbox (Give or take, I can't find any accurate sales for the platform) so it's logical to assume we'll see the same kind of sales among PS3 and 360 owners - 10% here or there, but whatever it is you'll probably see equal sales on both platforms with the 360 selling more overall purely because of it's larger install base.

The only market that nobody's going to be sure about is the people who haven't decided which console to get yet and for them, brand loyalty is in question as it is.

EDIT: Here's another way of looking at it - Brand Loyalty versus "whatever is cheaper". Of those two demographies, which is the larger? I don't think there's as many loyal sony fans as there are people who like to save money.

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Why are you still quoting sales of GTA on the PS2? That really wont make a difference. The main reason GTA sold more on the PS2 was the larger install base. 120million PS2's versus what, 24million xboxes? Of course it's going to sell more on the PS2. That plus the timed launch, of course, but the install base is a big, big factor.

This time around, the 360 has the greater install base and it's well known it can ship more games than the PS3 or Wii can, so Microsoft has that in it's favour.

When it comes down to it, there's a certain percentage of people that will want GTA4. Using the PS2 as an example, we can say that roughly 10% of PS2 owners bought the game brand new, I wouldn't be all that surprised if San Andreas sold around 2.4Million on the Xbox (Give or take, I can't find any accurate sales for the platform) so it's logical to assume we'll see the same kind of sales among PS3 and 360 owners - 10% here or there, but whatever it is you'll probably see equal sales on both platforms with the 360 selling more overall purely because of it's larger install base.

The only market that nobody's going to be sure about is the people who haven't decided which console to get yet and for them, brand loyalty is in question as it is.

EDIT: Here's another way of looking at it - Brand Loyalty versus "whatever is cheaper". Of those two demographies, which is the larger? I don't think there's as many loyal sony fans as there are people who like to save money.

The Playstation's have always been the most expensive out of the consoles *I think*, so let's wait and see :p

Your points are valid, the 360 does have a larger install base, but many speculate the PS3 install base rocketing this year, for the exclusives that we all know and love.

For the reasons I posted in my argument earlier as well, there isn't much on the PS3 to bring over PS2 lovers just now, most of the existing franchises on the PS3 currently aren't the AAA titles (R&C, while good, isn't a AAA franchise, I'd say more AA :p), or a host of new IPs which can either sell your console well, or be risky for casual buyers - Yeah Uncharted/HS may look good, but your casual PS2 owner won't know jack about them over the likes of seeing GT or MGS on the shelf.

Price has also been offputing for the PS3, especially last year, now it's PS2/Sub PS2 price(s), it should pick up some steam. Well the kind of steam many have been expecting, as in no way did it sell bad in it's first year, it exceeded the 360's 1st year sales, but only just - Which isn't the landslide many expected, so it looks worse for Sony, than it does MS.

The 360 smashed expectations, the PS3 underdelivered on expectations in their respected 1st year sales.

I'd say in terms of 2nd year sales, the 360 underachieved slightly (a drop in 2-3 million over 1st year), and we'll find out by the end of this year how the PS3 has done in it's second year.

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