bhav930 Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 i dont know if this is the right place or not but i have a Speedstream 6520 gateway router/modem. my ISP is a PPPoA. and i have a playstation 3 and i cannot get and stay online with it. i dont know much about networking(but learning as i keep going with this problem) i heard bridging the modem and then adding a router could fix my issue but then was told i cant bridge because i have PPPoA so what can i do if anyone knows about PS3 i am getting NAT3 setting and trying to get it to NAT2 where im behind a router but all my ports are opened. i have set my 6520 into DMZ and opened the needed ports but i still get a NAT 3. Or is it possible to get my ISP to change me to PPPoE? or if they are PPPoA is that all they can support? and changing ISP is not a possiblitly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSmiggins Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 From looking at the manual for the 6250, and a couple of online comments, it's fixable, but there's a couple of things to note: Any config changes require a reboot of the router, to take effect. And one page lists a note about needing to have uPNP turned off to allow port forwarding. Apart from that, can you start at the beginning, I'm assuming you've got one device that connects to the internet, your SpeedStream. How have you got your PS3 connected? Wired or wireless, and does it have a static IP? (Sorry if I'm asking questions you're finding too simple, but let's just make sure of the basic's first) In terms of your bridging question, there really shouldn't be any need for you to use bridging for your config to work, but let's sort the basics and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhav930 Posted April 5, 2008 Author Share Posted April 5, 2008 From looking at the manual for the 6250, and a couple of online comments, it's fixable, but there's a couple of things to note: Any config changes require a reboot of the router, to take effect. And one page lists a note about needing to have uPNP turned off to allow port forwarding.Apart from that, can you start at the beginning, I'm assuming you've got one device that connects to the internet, your SpeedStream. How have you got your PS3 connected? Wired or wireless, and does it have a static IP? (Sorry if I'm asking questions you're finding too simple, but let's just make sure of the basic's first) In terms of your bridging question, there really shouldn't be any need for you to use bridging for your config to work, but let's sort the basics and go from there. ok, first dont worry about it, i have gone through this alot so far ok i have my ps3 connected wired into the 6520 yes i set a static IP for it and i had a NAT2 before sony did the latest 2.20 firmware update i have forwarded the ports to the static IP addy, and i stuill bring back a NAT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhav930 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 i also dont know if you know anything about speedstream but when this first happened i got it to change to NAT2 but lost my internet connection (which now i dont care) but i chose the Address Translation on my setup page but now when i do my internet connection fails its usually set on the 3rd option,,but if i could even figure out how to make the 2nd option work again id be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSmiggins Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 According to the manual, NAPT is exactly what you're after. Can you turn off DMZ and confirm the ports you've got forwarded to the PS3? From the list I've got, you should have: TCP: 80, 443, 5223, and Port Range 10070 - 10080 UDP: 3478, 3479, 3658, and 10070 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhav930 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 ok, on my PS3 i have it set IP ADDY 192.168.254.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Default Router 192.165.254.254 same for primary DNS and 2ndary here is ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftman Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 If I were in your position, I would dump the router/modem entirely. Use your modem as a standard modem, no router features whatsoever, and buy a WRT54GL + flash it with Tomato. My PS3 was automagically NAT 2 because Tomato actually supports UPnP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSmiggins Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Just to confirm, those forwarding settings are correct. And bobp makes a very good point. From reading a bit about the 6250, it does appear to have its problems, there's a few issues people have brought up on the internet when discussing it: There's reports of Port Forwarding not working with UPNP enabled. There's also mention that Port Forwarding doesn't like working unless the router hands out the IP address of the client via DHCP Have you got the "Gateway Health" option on the router setup screen? If so, turn off your PS3, open up the firewall logging section, note the last entry, turn on the PS3, wait for it to get a NAT2, then check the log for what's been blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhav930 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 If I were in your position, I would dump the router/modem entirely. Use your modem as a standard modem, no router features whatsoever, and buy a WRT54GL + flash it with Tomato.My PS3 was automagically NAT 2 because Tomato actually supports UPnP. ok well i know i cant bridge my modem/router because i have PPPoA i have a speedstream 5200 i also have a linksys WRT54GS if you can walk me through what i need to do and i get NAT2 ill buy you a steak dinner!!! and drinks! Just to confirm, those forwarding settings are correct.And bobp makes a very good point. From reading a bit about the 6250, it does appear to have its problems, there's a few issues people have brought up on the internet when discussing it: There's reports of Port Forwarding not working with UPNP enabled. There's also mention that Port Forwarding doesn't like working unless the router hands out the IP address of the client via DHCP Have you got the "Gateway Health" option on the router setup screen? If so, turn off your PS3, open up the firewall logging section, note the last entry, turn on the PS3, wait for it to get a NAT2, then check the log for what's been blocked. and i CANT get a NAT2 setting, havent got it for a few weeks now,,so i wont be able to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftman Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 PPPoA, not PPPoE? Hmm... I don't know about that... maybe you could ask your provider for a standalone modem? My ISP gives out DHCP addresses (once I authenticate w/ my routers MAC address) over ethernet from a standard D-Link DSL modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhav930 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Share Posted April 6, 2008 PPPoA, not PPPoE? Hmm... I don't know about that... maybe you could ask your provider for a standalone modem? My ISP gives out DHCP addresses (once I authenticate w/ my routers MAC address) over ethernet from a standard D-Link DSL modem. i have a stand alone modem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftman Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 It should be trivial to set up then. Get your standalone modem working, then get the ethernet from the modem to the WAN port of the router.... and you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I'm pretty sure your ISP will do PPPOe because they're plenty of companies which use this. I'd bridge you modem put the WRT onto the speedstream and configure a pppoe connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmorya Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 This is caused due to a change in the 2.20 Firmware. Many people on the Europe Playstation Forum are complaining about their NAT2 changing to NAT3. I went out and bought a new NetComm router and it works fine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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