+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 Ron Festejo, Home?s creative director, has confirmed that Home will enter its open beta phase in November this year.?Home is currently in a closed beta phase,? he said, speaking at last week?s SCEE PlayStation Day in London. ?We have between 8,000 and 10,000 users in this closed beta phase. Around July we?re going to be expanding on the closed beta phase and allowing more people to gradually come in, and then in November this year we?ll be going to the open beta.? He added: ?The extension to the closed beta allows us to have more conversations with our community. We?re very much in close conversations with them. A lot of the changes we?ve done have been the result of feedback. We?ve asked the community a lot of questions, they?ve given us a lot of feedback as to what they think needs improving, and we?re doing that, so it?s managing expectations.? There?s more in this Eurogamer TV report, mainly about game-launching in Home, how to set up sessions, and so on. Take a look. Source: http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/05/12/s...home-open-beta/ Video of Motorstorm launching within Home: http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=8863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 November?! :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 November?! :blink: You didn't pay attention to PlayStation Day? Kaz delayed it from Spring to Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Looks awesome :D -Rich- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Does anyone really really care about this much now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 You didn't pay attention to PlayStation Day?Kaz delayed it from Spring to Fall. oh what a ****ing suprise how long has this been going on now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 Does anyone really really care about this much now ? If you were interested from the start I don't see why not. Delays are frustrating, but they aren't going to make me stop wanting something. This is the first time we've had an exact date for the open beta - Previously it was just Sony saying Summer/3rd Quarter/1st Quarter. oh what a ****ing suprisehow long has this been going on now???? 8-10 months? Was initially to launch 3rd quarter/fall last year I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMaster23 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Jikes .. not only will it not be very usefull, it's also delayed for the 1 billionth time. I really really think this isn't what the PS3 needs .. 3D navigation has always sucked. 2D and 3d-ish 2D interfaces are the ONLY interfaces that work so far. It's a bit like second life .. sure it has members but not the members sony wants (or needs). Myself, personally, I hate the XMB .. really hate it. Can't find anything and the whole expierence (choosing titles / setting a configuration / messaging / launching a movie) is backwards for me. The main reason why I barely touch my PS3 actually .. only use it for a bit of Stardust and Blu-raying.. A shame really ... when looking at others .. I still think Windows Media Center' UI is one of the best out there and they could easily design it in the same fashion for games. The Wii UI is a bit different but really easy to "point at" (huge buttons etc). The blades of 360 are a charm.. I love the overlay blade in-game which makes chatting/messaging and managing music fun. Ingame XMB (even tough XMB sucks for me) is also yet to found .. hopyfully this summer... (also .. why can't I turn off the damn PS3 controller whilst watching a Blu-ray? :x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 You didn't pay attention to PlayStation Day?Kaz delayed it from Spring to Fall. Gotta be honest with you, i didn't. I'm just surprised, It's a small virtual world, not a full blown game, yet it takes them over 2 years to get out the door - We're almost hitting 2009 before we even see an Open Beta ... Beta! That small bit of interest and fascination i had with Home has withered. Please tell me the development team consists of less than 4 guys and i may be able to overlook the development time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It's a huge project, one that Sony under estimated. I would rather wait for the service to be fully working than get a buggy mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 November? hahahaha oh dear. Considering this is supposed to be sony's answer to the whole "xbox live experience" and a critical part of it's online strategy this is damn poor. The PS3 will be over 2 years old by the time this is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 November? hahahaha oh dear.Considering this is supposed to be sony's answer to the whole "xbox live experience" and a critical part of it's online strategy this is damn poor. The PS3 will be over 2 years old by the time this is out. They have never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 Gotta be honest with you, i didn't. I'm just surprised, It's a small virtual world, not a full blown game, yet it takes them over 2 years to get out the door - We're almost hitting 2009 before we even see an Open Beta ... Beta! That small bit of interest and fascination i had with Home has withered. Please tell me the development team consists of less than 4 guys and i may be able to overlook the development time. It's actually a large project, one Sony underestimated (There's lots going on in the gaming/advertising and media fronts) - There is a few interviews from PlayStation Day where Sony explain what's taking the time on the project, and what they underestimated. If it comes out in November, it will be 2 years exactly since the launch of the PS3 in America, and 1 year 6 months or something for Europe. The haters will be relishing this, and those waiting on it will be frustrated - But for the later, I seriously doubt the claims of "I'm not interested anymore" will be overturned once it's here, if you were genuinely looking forward to it. Get In-Game XMB out in the Summer, and they'll make many people happy - In-Game XMB will effectively give the PS3 what Live has in terms of functionality, Home really is an application to take things further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 They have never said that. Then what is it? It's hardly something they are just going to dump online and forgot. No, it's critical part of Sony's online strategy and of course it's designed to compete with xbox live's online experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Sony Confirms November for Home open beta only for it to be announced that it will be delayed yet again sometime in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 How can you underestimate your own project? You would think they had clear guidelines what they want from the start, had everything sketched out and had an overall plan for what "Home" should be. But sounds like they just went into this without much thought. 2 Years for something which on the surface seems so simple is unacceptable. But i guess that's just me being unfair ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMaster23 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 How can you underestimate your own project? You would think they had clear guidelines what they want from the start, had everything sketched out and had an overall plan for what "Home" should be. But sounds like they just went into this without much thought. 2 Years for something which on the surface seems so simple is unacceptable. But i guess that's just me being unfair ... You never worked in a larger business/corporation I guess? Project get under- and overestimated all the time. Also governments are pro's at it... I doubt they can pull off a "Valve"... delaying it a billion times and still make one of the best expierences ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 How can you underestimate your own project? You would think they had clear guidelines what they want from the start, had everything sketched out and had an overall plan for what "Home" should be. But sounds like they just went into this without much thought. 2 Years for something which on the surface seems so simple is unacceptable. But i guess that's just me being unfair ... It's such an organic project though, with a roof, that's not in the sky, but literally in space. Think of a game like WoW, and compare it to what it was like on day 1, to what it is like now after the no doubt 8GB of patches people have mowed through. Home isn't a game, but it shares the scope, and IMO exceeds the scope of a huge project like WoW, and the amount of content which can be tweaked/added and changed. Day 1 Home, will be vastly inferior to year 5 Home - That kind of project. A lot of the content in Home will be coming from other studios/developers and 3rd parties as well, so all those ends need to be tied up. Sony have never done a robust online service, let alone make a MMO-Style 3D environment and their inexperience is showing. But to be completely blunt, I'm somewhat relieved Kaz keeps stepping up and saying Home isn't coming till I'm happy with it, although if it's not out in 2008 I think jobs will be being looked at. Dates are confirmed now, which they've never been done before, so I'm actually fairly confident it'll ship on time. Prior to now as I've said we've just had the "Summer launch" or "3rd quarter launch". We now have exact months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Like many others, Home's delays have resulted in my interest gradually decreasing over time. At least give is in-game XMB to tide us over. Move along people, nothing to see here :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Underestimating projects happens all the time, things change during development, things you didn't even think about during the design phase get in the way, etc., etc.. but... Sony's main problem continues to be announcing things way before they're even remotely finished. Home should have been announced once they got a public beta out, not before. They keep messing with people's expectations, something that shouldn't be underestimated by any chance. That way of doing things just might come back someday to bite them in the ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 You never worked in a larger business/corporation I guess?Project get under- and overestimated all the time. Also governments are pro's at it... I doubt they can pull off a "Valve"... delaying it a billion times and still make one of the best expierences ever.. No, but a guy i know worked with a pretty familiar game made in Denmark, you have 3 guesses at a title ;) We had a lengthy discussion around creating games etc. where he also mentioned what i said, you plan before you begin. Of course everything can and will probably change during the course of development, but you still have an overall plan and feel for what you are doing. Yes, Home may be a more dynamic project - But they must surely still have an idea, what the hell they are working with. Also, I'm pretty sure Blizzard was a lot more clear on what they were dealing with. The project kept evolving and they kept their time schedule. The Open Betas were also a major success and were executed perfectly. I saw no public statements about Blizzard biting over more than they could chew either? Evolving a product over a number of years with patches and fixes is fine and necessary, not really the point of the discussion either. We're talking about just getting the product out the door. I do understand and acknowledge is is Sony's first time at this, but they keep going on about Home like It's gonna be the savior of the human race, but fails to show every time. Just keep a low profile until you actually have something for us! But it does take more than some guy confirming a few dates to get me excited. I just gotta ask you Audio, you are once again defending Sony ( This is not meant to be an insult in any way, I know you have much respect for Sony ) But can you honestly say you aren't disappointed, with the whole process and the delays? Just a little bit?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zab Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 What is "Home" agian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 What is "Home" agian? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Home "which has been in development since early 2005." - So we're actually on 3 years development time, even better :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 What is "Home" agian? A Second Life clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2008 No, but a guy i know worked with a pretty familiar game made in Denmark, you have 3 guesses at a title ;)We had a lengthy discussion around creating games etc. where he also mentioned what i said, you plan before you begin. Of course everything can and will probably change during the course of development, but you still have an overall plan and feel for what you are doing. Yes, Home may be a more dynamic project - But they must surely still have an idea, what the hell they are working with. Also, I'm pretty sure Blizzard was a lot more clear on what they were dealing with. The project kept evolving and they kept their time schedule. The Open Betas were also a major success and were executed perfectly. I saw no public statements about Blizzard biting over more than they could chew either? Evolving a product over a number of years with patches and fixes is fine and necessary, not really the point of the discussion either. We're talking about just getting the product out the door. I do understand and acknowledge is is Sony's first time at this, but they keep going on about Home like It's gonna be the savior of the human race, but fails to show every time. Just keep a low profile until you actually have something for us! But it does take more than some guy confirming a few dates to get me excited. I just gotta ask you Audio, you are once again defending Sony ( This is not meant to be an insult in any way, I know you have much respect for Sony ) But can you honestly say you aren't disappointed, with the whole process and the delays? Just a little bit?! That's more PS3 owners that do that to Home. The hype people are creating for this is unbelievable at times - In a bad way you could say. It's also been a lot of people who have kicked out the 100 or so "Home release date" rumours we've seen. I remember seeing sites claim they had 100% concrete info of Home coming out for GDC and the likes. That kind of rumour spewing has helped annoy a lot of people when Sony themselves have actually spoken out on Home and delayed it. But it does take more than some guy confirming a few dates to get me excited. I just gotta ask you Audio, you are once again defending Sony ( This is not meant to be an insult in any way, I know you have much respect for Sony ) But can you honestly say you aren't disappointed, with the whole process and the delays? Just a little bit?! I've said many things I'm disappointed with, and this is clearly one of them. I don't like continuous delays. Home isn't a game though, so while it's something I'm anticipating, you'd find me far more let down if say MGS4 got another delay, or LBP was pushed to 2009. I think right now In-Game XMB is far more important, and if it doesn't come out in Summer or at least a decent amount of time before Home (if we say Home is coming in Nov), then for me that's something to get more peeved off about. I don't find myself as black and white as some Neowin users, that is all. People where it's either one extreme or the other extreme. I can find myself disappointed, but I don't start going postal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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