Tantawi Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) I'm not sure if this should go to the soapbox or here, but I hope I can get some feedback since it's something that concerns me, and probably others, about Neowin as a community. First let me say that I believe in discussion and sharing knowledge about everything in this life, I also believe in freedom of believes and speech. Have you been recently to the Real World Issues sub forum? what's up with all religions bashing? I don't know what benefit does it bring to Neowin to open a forum to being heavily used to bash and make fun of religions and beliefs of people, I and everyone know that it's a discussion that will never end, it only creates an atmosphere of clash between members of a supposedly technology site. I'm not against discussing topics away from technology, there're great sub forums in here like the General forum and Jokes and almost every sub forum, except that one! people make fun of every religion or beliefs in a disgusting way, it's not that I'm a Muslim, Christan, Jew, or atheist or anything else, but it's just too pointless to this tech focused community to bash and offend each other with no outcome from discussion but repeating a never ending debate between different beliefs. Why not let everyone's believe in whatever he/she wants to believe, and just go past it and don't add such negativity to the community? I, as many, get offended when people bash Christianity and claim that Jesus didn't exist, as much as I do when some bashes Islam, as much as others do when some say there's a God. You see what I'm on here? the discussion will never end! and Neowin isn't the place that will set facts straight in theses things, there're other places for all of that. I dream of the day when all religion related discussions is banned from Neowin, or at least heavily moderated, am I the only one? Edited May 24, 2008 by Tantawi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted May 24, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 24, 2008 I'm not sure if this should go to the soapbox or here, but I hope I can get some feedback since it's something that concerns me, and probably others, about Neowin as a community.First let me say that I believe in discussion and sharing knowledge about everything in this life, I also believe in freedom of believes and speech. Have you been recently to the Real World Issues sub forum? what's up with all religions bashing? I don't know what benefit it does make to Neowin to open a forum to mainly being used to bash religions and beliefs of people, I and everyone know that it's a discussion that will never end, it only creates an atmosphere of clash between members of a supposedly technology site. I'm not against discussing topics away from technology, there's great sub forums in here like the General forum and Jokes and almost every sub forum, except that one! people make fun of every religion or beliefs in a disgusting way, it's not that I'm a Muslim, Christan, Jew, or atheist or anything else, but it's just too pointless to this tech focused community to bash and offend each other with no outcome from discussion but repeating a never ending debate between different believe. Why not let everyone's believe in whatever he/she wants to believe, and just go past it and don't add such negativity to the community? I, as many, get offended when people bash Christianity and claim that Jesus didn't exist, as much as I do when some bashes Islam, as much as others do when some say there's a God. You see what I'm on here? the discussion will never end! and Neowin isn't the place that will set facts straight in theses things, there's better places for all of that. I dream of the day when all religion related discussions is banned from Neowin, or at least heavily moderated, am I the only one? Speaking for myself and not as a member of Neowin staff I have to agree - RWI needs to be under closer supervision. The flamewars in there aren't beneficial to anybody. It's beyond me why people can't simply respect the beliefs of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Mephisto: Because too often people think respect is a one-way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 24, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 24, 2008 Debating religion does not have to turn into religion bashing. People have to understand that religion is a belief system. If you believe in God or Allah you must have faith. I personally have learned a great deal about the Muslim religion from The RWI section. Everyone is entitled to believe in what they want to be it God, Allah or nothing. The problem is that this can't be a clear and precise discussion. Religion is not an exact science, there are various beliefs and religions. There are those that do not believe in God such as Atheists. There are those that believe but just don't care-Agnostics. What we need to do is not to denounce or bash one persons belief over your own. We need to discuss this topic in a way that is both meaningful and educational where we can become informed on matters that we were not aware of. I believe that if we all put an effort into it, we can have intelligent and meaningful discussions on Religion and we all can benefit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantawi Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 So wisely put, Gary7, I completely agree. (Y). Now the road to ensure intelligent and meaningful discussions is all I'm asking, otherwise it isn't doing any good to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 25, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 25, 2008 Why not let everyone's believe in whatever he/she wants to believe, and just go past it and don't add such negativity to the community? I, as many, get offended when people bash Christianity and claim that Jesus didn't exist, as much as I do when some bashes Islam, as much as others do when some say there's a God. You see what I'm on here? the discussion will never end! and Neowin isn't the place that will set facts straight in theses things, there're other places for all of that. There's a difference between somebody being disrespectful, and just not agreeing with you. Of course, it should be phrased better and a lot of the negativity kept out (although that is hard sometimes when you get riled up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Post like this should help your argument. https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry589423209 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I have a bigher problem with the few times where political topics (and some other topics) that don't have to do with technology have leaked onto the front page. For example one time there was a front page story here about a study on porn, and I knew it would be a magnet for people to make anti-religion comments. We don't have to make the front page news unwelcoming to people with different points of view. I also don't like it when some science topics leak on the front page. This isn't slashdot. I like the real world issues forum, but the front page news should be sharp and focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted May 26, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 26, 2008 I have a bigher problem with the few times where political topics (and some other topics) that don't have to do with technology have leaked onto the front page. For example one time there was a front page story here about a study on porn, and I knew it would be a magnet for people to make anti-religion comments. We don't have to make the front page news unwelcoming to people with different points of view. I also don't like it when some science topics leak on the front page. This isn't slashdot. I like the real world issues forum, but the front page news should be sharp and focused. Science has a direct correlation with technology. I, for one, are very pleased to have more sciencey topics on the front page, as long as they're relevant to the site's core target - technology. This was a sentiment echoed in the comments when I posted the memristor article. The study on porn? My guess is that it was based on the internet and was therefore relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecookie Veteran Posted May 26, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 26, 2008 As long as everyone is playing by the Neowin rules, then they have the right to express their opinion. If they don't like your religion or political issues, they can say that. If they call you an idiot and then make threatening racist comments about your religion...then report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Veteran Posted June 1, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 1, 2008 I think I'll stay out of the Breaking News, General Discussion, and RWI forums for a while. Every time a thread pops up with something that could be related to ethics, politics or religion, it's like a full-blown argument between the Neowin community. There's nothing wrong with healthy argument, but it drives me nuts when people just argue for pages for the sake of points against someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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