Forum specifically for OSx86?


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Could this possibly be considered? After all, OSx86 has its own set of problems and such (due to its non-supported nature), and it would be nice to have OSx86 topics separated. That way it would be easier for people using Mac OS on non-Apple hardware to help each other out, and keep the Mac forums for ubiquitous issues (not restricted to OSx86) only.

For example, if someone gets kernel panics after installing OSx86, he could ask in the OSx86 forum, since people dealing only with Apple hardware probably wouldn't know much about the issue. However, if he has a question about iCal, he can ask about it in the Mac Software Discussion & Help forum (without the tag) since it's not related to OSx86.

I suggest a subforum in Mac Software Discussion & Help or something along the lines of that.

wctaiwan

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Yeah, I suggested this yesterday, and it seems as if it's been taken into account. Marshalus supports a subforum if the need arises. I think the need has already arisen. It would be inappropriate to group OSx86 topics in the Apple General Discussion Forum, and it would understandably annoy genuine Mac users.

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I don't think that this would be done. OSX86 is an illegal hack of Apple's OS X, and knowing Neowin, they won't want to be involved in illegal software hacks.

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are EULA's legally enforceable?

if so apple seems in no rush to enforce it against psystar.

i would say at this time it's not illegal until apple wins a court case supporting the EULA.

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They need to pin an advertisement everywhere on the Mac Forums...

*sighs*

As from 28 May 2008 https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=639781

Discussion of OS X on non-Apple hardware is allowed on Neowin. The amendment to the rules was conclusively made after much discussion among our staff. The primary reasoning behind this is a 1984 Federal Court ruling specifically makes it illegal for a company to force their users to install the OS on specific hardware. Which is ultimately the reason we're now allowing this discussion.
And yess, OSx86 needs it's own subforum I say :)

Pure Macers won't like Unpures with "HackIntoshs"

Also, problems are different and don't target the same helpers.

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I agree with the subforum. While there are not a whole lot of topics currently, I can see it growing rather quickly. Keeping the modified system discussion away from the "vanilla" discussions simply makes it easier to read the forums. All for it!

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I do not agree with this ONE bit. It's so blatently pirating and warez. Why should we allows this as 99% of the time it's gonna be someone with an illegal hacked copy asking for support about it.

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I do not agree with this ONE bit. It's so blatently pirating and warez. Why should we allows this as 99% of the time it's gonna be someone with an illegal hacked copy asking for support about it.

Just because the majority may be pirated does not mean that all of it is. If you don't want to help anyone having issues, then don't, you aren't being forced into looking at the forum. The discussion of warez and where to obtain it IS still prohibited. The actual installation and modding of OS X is not illegal and is now supported. If anyone mentions it is a warez copy, I have no doubt that no one will help them. However, if we are not told whether it is warez we have no way to know. It is the same with the Windows support. We don't know if everyone we help is running a legitimate copy or not, that is not our place. Our place is to help. If you feel that is is a warez copy, then don't help them, that is your personal decision. Warez is illegal, installing OS X on non-apple hardware is not.

/rant :p

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I do not agree with this ONE bit. It's so blatently pirating and warez. Why should we allows this as 99% of the time it's gonna be someone with an illegal hacked copy asking for support about it.
Tough the percentage of illegal installations with Mac will be higher than windows since every brought PC come with Legal Windows, I'm sure that 75% and more of Windows Users that built their own PC have a pirated Windows installed are asking help on Neowin.
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Why should i as a mac user have a bloody osx86 forum in there. You purchase a mac it comes with OSX simple as.

You purchase a nokia phone it comes with a Nokia built OS, and applications, so what your now saying is i can legally go to nokia and demand they make their Nokia OS work on my LG phone.

This is going to cause more problems than fix them

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lol, look, face it, Neowin Staff decided to accept OSx86.

This is done, and unless they revoke their decision it won't change.

I understands that you may not like it, but don't rant in this thread, go there: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=639781

This thread is to discuss about a subforum only for OSx86.

You should be logically vote for it if you don't like OSx86, unless your loved forums will be spammed with OSx86 thread every hours.

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A dedicated section would probably draw Apple's lawyers like flies. Neowin caves to Microsoft all the time, (autopatcher anyone). They would probably cave to Apple too.

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Neowin staff said that they will evaluate the traffic of X86 traffic in the Apple forums and make the determination if such a thing is needed in the future. If you look through the announcement thread I believe you will find the quote there.

I'm all for a subforum, if the need arises.

There you go.

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ILLEGAL! But you can go to www.insanelymac.com ...I'm running Leopard...*cough*jk*cough* and it's aweomesauce.

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I do not agree with this ONE bit. It's so blatently pirating and warez. Why should we allows this as 99% of the time it's gonna be someone with an illegal hacked copy asking for support about it.

This is different from Windows forums how?

Why should i as a mac user have a bloody osx86 forum in there.

Are you somehow "more equal" than other users, being a Mac user?

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I've tried not to chime in on this OSx86 debate, but I can't hold back any longer.

While I will not be trying this, to simply state that I will pirate OS X to build a "hackintosh" really strikes a nerve with me. For those same people to state that 75% or more windows users pirate their OS really ****es me off. I have never had to purchase a version of Windows since 98, but that doesn't mean that I pirate them constantly. I have received a copy of Windows XP SP1, Office 2003, and Server 2003 (25 CAL) for attending various Microsoft launch events and other meetings. I obtained my copies of Vista Ultimate/Business, Office 2007 Ultimate, Windows XP SP3, and Server 2008 through Technet ($349/year BTW), and I will happily renew my subscription. And yes, I bought Photoshop as well.

While I could care less if someone wants to turn a PC into a Mac (I still don't see the point, TBH) instead of purchasing one, please try to refrain from saying everyone is a blatant pirate of whatever software they use.

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I think neowin Should have a OSX86 subforum it will Bring more people which is a good thing.

The Fact that apple hardware is way over priced is one reason people try OSX86, and another reason is that Using OSX is really Cool. i Run OSX on my Desktop and Dell XPS 1530 which has the same Specs, as the the highest End 15"MacBook Pro and is way cheaper. when people see me with my 1,600$ (4GB of Ram) laptop that has the same specs as there 2,500$, i can see the face of disappointment.

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