John Veteran Posted March 8, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 8, 2003 (edited) i know a lot of people are somewhat annoyed about not being able to reach some sites such as newegg.com after installing 3? here is a workaround i came up with that does not seem to interfere with 3?: 1. right click my network places and choose properties (or open network connections in control panel) 2. click the advanced menu, then click advanced settings 3. under "bindings for local area connection, move "internet protocol (TCP/IP)" above IPv6 under "client for microsoft networks" before, i was unable to access newegg.com. after doing this i was able to successfully able to access newegg.com. thishouldi> work in all cases. however, this was posted under back page news before neowin was shutdown, and i know at least one person who claims it didn't work, though i am skeptical. two other people said it worked for them however. Edited March 8, 2003 by gameguy34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 9, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 9, 2003 well??? has anyone had success with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flakingbiscuit Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 woohoo!! it works!! sweet! thanks a lot :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHiSH Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 what's the advantage of using IPv6? and if it is good? where can i get it from? or .. enable it .. or whatever :p i know nothing about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 IPv6 comes with 3? windows xp comes with a developer edition of IPv6 (which will work just as well). to install it, type this into a command line: IPv6 install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlerner Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 ipv6 is pretty useless there's only about 20-30 sites with ipv6 and M$ really didn't do a good job using it with 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 i know very little about IPv6, but i know that it is supposed to solve the ip shortage, among other things. this site seems to explain the basics about what is new in IPv6: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003.../introipv6.mspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlerner Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 yeah "supposed" to solve ip shortage and other things but just wait till the whole net switches there'll still be glitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 has there ever been a first final release of anything with absolutely no bugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlerner Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 umm Mac OS? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 i know very little about IPv6, but i know that it is supposed to solve the ip shortage, among other things. Here's a woefully simplistic and inaccurate history of IP numbers. Feel free to correct it. It should give you the general gist of the idea though. When the internet was first created they created an IP numbering system (IPv4) that was capable of handling over 4 billion computers (using four sets on numbers where XXX equals a decimal number from 000 to 255). These address were grouped into three block sizes (Class A, Class B and Class C). Each Class A block supported about 16 million computers, each Class B block supported about 64 thousand computers and each Class C block supported 254 computers. They had a limited number of Class A blocks, quite a few Class B blocks and a heck of a lot of Class C blocks available for distribution. Then they went and started allocating number to universities, the government and whomever wanted in on this new thing. Initially they gave out Class A blocks to all the big boys that came by because after all they had what they thought was a virtually unlimited supply (4 billion). They tended to give out Class B blocks to the early ISPs. As the Internet grew, they started to realize that they needed to be more conservative (a bit of the "640k ought to be enough for anyone"-type mentality). Eventually they started to panic and created the IPv6 system which allows for 268 trillion IP addresses in a XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX format (6 sets of numbers from 000 to 255). However, around this time Internet proxies and NATs were starting to gain popularity and many small, medium and large organizations realized that all they really needed was public IPs for their servers and private IPs for their users. This reduced the demand because not EVERY computer or device required its own unique IP number. At some point, if not from the beginning, they created one Class A, 16 Class B and 256 Class C address for private use. The Class A address is 10.XXX.XXX.XXX, the Class B addresses are 172.16.XXX.XXX-172.31.XXX.XXX and the Class C addresses are 192.168.0.XXX-192.168.255.XXX. ICANN (or whoever) started charging for IP numbers at one point and many organizations gave back some of their excess supply. So this basically took the pressure off the IPv6 specification. To give you an idea of how lax they used to be was that it used to be possible to get a static IP number associated with your dial-up account. I'd guess that would be pretty hard to arrange now. I guess eventually we really will have more than 4 billion directly routable computers active on the internet so they are working towards a smooth transition to IPv6. I have no idea how many directly routable computers are active on the internet at any given moment to have any idea how close we are to actually running out of IPv4 addresses. Somebody can do a google on that and let us know. Don't forget there are certain inefficiencies where organizations take more IPs than they currently need to handle future growth. Generally speaking the larger blocks (Class A, Class B) are more desirable because it reduces the spagetti effect of multiple Class C addresses that may bear little resemblance to each other. Perhaps it's just a neatness thing. Example: Most @HOME users were given (at least in my area) IP numbers that began with 24.XXX.XXX.XXX. This is an example of Excite@Home owning a Class A block. I'd expect that most AOL users have similar IP numbers too but I've never been an AOL user to confirm this. p.s. Why and how did this become a book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 for a man who posts so little, fred sure knows his tech history, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 for a man who posts so little, fred sure knows his tech history, lol Well I did post something about the P2P SDK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 umm Mac OS? :p Didn't Mac OS crash at a Keynote speach? I know windows did, but I'm sure Mac OS did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzero Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 only thing irc is useful for right now is to get your own ipv6 address space.. so you can reverse ips to get vhosts on irc. he.net tunnel broker hs247 ipv6.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted March 10, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2003 only thing irc is useful for right now is to get your own ipv6 address space..so you can reverse ips to get vhosts on irc. he.net tunnel broker hs247 ipv6.org Okay I can type an entire page on this history of IP addresses but I have no idea what we're talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whYeNQue Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 okay i have no idea wats goin on, i did part 1 and 2 then this is wat came up :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 12, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2003 whYeNQue: that is the dialog box that should come up, however, the bottom box should have things like "client for microsoft networks" and all the protocols that use them. i could see this happening if you don't have 3degrees/IPv6 installed, but i am assuming you do, so i don't know what to say..... sorry. maybe you should check your network settings, see what all is installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teka Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 i know a lot of people are somewhat annoyed about not being able to reach some sites such as newegg.com after installing 3?here is a workaround i came up with that does not seem to interfere with 3?: 1. right click my network places and choose properties (or open network connections in control panel) 2. click the advanced menu, then click advanced settings 3. under "bindings for local area connection, move "internet protocol (TCP/IP)" above IPv6 under "client for microsoft networks" before, i was unable to access newegg.com. after doing this i was able to successfully able to access newegg.com. thishouldi> work in all cases. however, this was posted under back page news before neowin was shutdown, and i know at least one person who claims it didn't work, though i am skeptical. two other people said it worked for them however. Maybe im stupid or something.. but i cant find "bindings for local area connection" wheres that???:no:o: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 12, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2003 here is a pic of my advanced settings box in network connections: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teka Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 here is a pic of my advanced settings box in network connections: In windows XP that chages.. so I dont know to do it :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 12, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2003 okay i have no idea wats goin on, i did part 1 and 2 then this is wat came up :huh: whYeNQue you don't have an entry for "local area connection." (for cable/dsl/LAN connection) in fact, you don't have any connections... how are you getting online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted March 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2003 okay i have no idea wats goin on, i did part 1 and 2 then this is wat came up :huh: Should I assume that you have a local network card installed and configured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teka Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 See? I think u cant select the order in Windows XP.... :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted March 12, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2003 teka, you are looking in the wrong place. don't get the properties of the network connection (in your case, "Cablemodem") instead, open network connections in control panel. then click "advanced settings" in the advanced menu. you will then see a window similar to the one i posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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