Nic Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Unfortunately with forums, rules have to be made to make sure unruly members are kept under control and sometimes that puts the normal member in an unfair situation with rules and boundaries even though that member didn't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted July 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 20, 2008 I was going to get the wife to make an account, but then thought about it being from the same IP address, and told her not to as it might get me/us banned/warned. I do understand the reasons for it though, a few screw it up for the rest of us. If you are worried about it, if you PM a member of staff we can make a note of it, just in case it does accidentally get caught up (although tbh the chances of that ever happening are minimal to say the least ;)). As has already been said, however, when I find duplicate accounts, 99.9% of the time theres a match on more than just the IP address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 If you are worried about it, if you PM a member of staff we can make a note of it, just in case it does accidentally get caught up (although tbh the chances of that ever happening are minimal to say the least ;)).As has already been said, however, when I find duplicate accounts, 99.9% of the time theres a match on more than just the IP address. Ok, cool. As always you mod's have a often thankless job. I can only imagine the work that you have to put in to keep this place from getting out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecookie Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 If we are unsure about duplicate accounts, we may also contact the member. I've done it numerous times to get more information from them regarding friends, account sharing and so on. Those who do not get the chance to explain why there are multiple accounts linked to them are those with higher warn levels and those who continually cause problems on the boards...and many times it's not their first duplicate account. We check many different things besides just IP addresses and even then, if we aren't 100% sure we check with other staff members on it. Thread Cleaned of name calling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted July 21, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted July 21, 2008 Way I see it... I you smell a rat, it's usually a rat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Now my brother can join as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesmithg Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Why is it that neowin is on such a power trip that my little brother can't have an account here. Just because he registered with the same IP. I try to explain that but you all just make me out to be a loser who creates multiple accounts. I am sure this will be closed immediately, but let it serve as a warning to anyone who is thinking of inviting a room mate / brother to joining neowin. The so called "Moderators" are looking for ANY reason to punish those they don't like, or may simply even just disagree with them. Interesting, maybe you should request another ip address when registering as you probably have a static one. I really don't see why someone would want 2 accounts here.They only time I started a second one, was due to terrible other member harassment. And the Mods punished ME, with a warning. :laugh: Oh well. Yes a certain moderator from Canada has two. I always wonder why? Yes hum I had an account in 2001/2002, forgot it's name as I went off to xperience.org for a bit. Then some woman started giving me stalking pains, so I created one as I changed my email address to a dumpster address and my account (this one locked), eventually it got sorted out and I use this one only, the other one has '1' at the end and as I said before cannot remember first one I created. Edited July 21, 2008 by leesmithg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I access from work and home, never had an issue, but never had anyone else sign on to neowin from my systems. Although i was blocked from editing a Wikipedia article because I once got an IP from a previous troublemaker. as NJ said, smelling rats and no smoke without fire etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I probably have had half a dozen accounts in my time at Neowin, for each time I wanted a member name change (and never went back to the previous account). When it actually became a rule to only have 1 account, I have stuck with this one ever since. One account really would belong to my sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrian Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 1 account per person is an understandable rule. 1 account per IP is total and utter bull****. I imagine many people are behind a router, and then there's the communal computer possibility. Of course, this policy doesn't affect me at all, it's the principle of the matter. When I signed up I was sharing an IP with 2 other people. I guess it's a good thing I got in before this idiocy started. Maybe it's possible that this guy was trying to circumvent a ban by creating another account, but I really couldn't give a **** if the average Neowin user these days had 20 aliases on here. BFD. Go ahead, warn me for my opinion. I've never been and don't give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 ^^^ WTF? Seriously? No one ever said there was a one account per IP rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecookie Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 1 account per person is an understandable rule. 1 account per IP is total and utter bull****. I imagine many people are behind a router, and then there's the communal computer possibility. Of course, this policy doesn't affect me at all, it's the principle of the matter. When I signed up I was sharing an IP with 2 other people. I guess it's a good thing I got in before this idiocy started. Maybe it's possible that this guy was trying to circumvent a ban by creating another account, but I really couldn't give a **** if the average Neowin user these days had 20 aliases on here. BFD.Go ahead, warn me for my opinion. I've never been and don't give a damn. Did you read through the thread or just assume that's what we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted July 21, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted July 21, 2008 Darrian needs to calm down just a touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 By my understanding, dupe accounts are banned, and one of the methods of detecting a dupe is via IP duplication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Funny, the Neowin staff is probably some of the most fair and reasonable people I've ever come across on an internet forum. agree 100% i've been on some other forums where the mods are just friends of the guy who made the site or they're just give mod status because of the amount of posts they have and it's terrible mods here are the best (Y) my brother has an account on neowin and we've never had any problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 By my understanding, dupe accounts are banned, and one of the methods of detecting a dupe is via IP duplication? Yep, IP Address is one of the ways you can detect duplicate accounts (although there's a load of other ways you can spot them too). At the end of the say, nobody is going to take any notice of two accounts using the same IP if they're well behaved and dont cause a fuss. On the other hand, if we have a member who hit 100% warning level 2 days ago and has a posting restriction or something, and a new account suddenly appears from their IP, we're going to get suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycoolkim Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Only reason i had a 2 accounts back in the day was i wanted a new alias, and the moderators didn't let me as i was a little bad kid in the day and had a few warnings so i created another account and my first account got banned, and i understand they did they right thing. So just learn your lesson, better yet, read from other peoples experiences and don't mess with the law. Its the way the world revolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrian Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 LOL, yeah, I guess I do need a chill pill. Many of the posts above mine were not posted when I began my rant. I edited it several times before I submitted it so it is not nearly as belligerent as the first thoughts that came to mind, and contains far less censored profanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amodin Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Did you read through the thread or just assume that's what we do? Obviously, no reply at all was read. Glanced over, perhaps. Maybe even a word or two in the form of a grunt appeared. Read and understood? Negative, Ghostrider. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 Do the mods also have this policy because when they say there are 211,562 registered users, they want that number to be the reality and not inflated by dupes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 By my understanding, dupe accounts are banned, and one of the methods of detecting a dupe is via IP duplication? Accounts from the same IP are not automatically banned. Members with low warning levels are very unlikely to ever get investigated. Basically, we need a reason to get involved. We do not have a one account per IP rule. As I stated earlier, we do have a "Sins of the Father" policy for two people living in one house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Do the mods also have this policy because when they say there are 211,562 registered users, they want that number to be the reality and not inflated by dupes? Read the thread. They do it to keep unruly members from having multiple IDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 Read the thread. They do it to keep unruly members from having multiple IDs. I did read it. I read it to mean they don't encourage multiple IDs. Just wondered if they didn't encourage it because they wanted the number of registered users to reflect some sort of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 21, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2008 I did read it. I read it to mean they don't encourage multiple IDs. Just wondered if they didn't encourage it because they wanted the number of registered users to reflect some sort of reality. No, because that number is not remotely based on reality. Ignoring duplicates, plenty of those accounts are inactive. We once did a mass purge of zero post accounts when we switched to IPB but deleting inactive members that have created threads causes issues for the database. Besides, other forums don't do it either and we don't want to be anti-competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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