fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) ive tried everything and it won't install. i even tried the alternative desktop cd with no luck. i have a 250gb hdd partitioned into 3 sections. 1 is in ntfs for storage. i also have 1 100gb for linux and a 4gb for the swap. it just won't boot into the install at all. it hangs on the boot screen for a couple minutes then i get a black screen with error messages. see photos below: this is a second hdd i have installed in my pc the other 80gb one is for vista. do you think the 250gb needs to be totally blank before trying to install ubuntu ? any help would be appreciated. Edited July 28, 2008 by smooth3006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney T. Administrators Posted July 28, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hmmm... seems like your hard drive doesn't like where you are trying to install it? Did you specify where you wanted Ubuntu to install? As has been said here many times, make sure that you have unpartitioned space on the disk you want to install Ubuntu to... and let Ubuntu do it's thing. I just installed Debian x64 Lenny on my computer today and it worked fine (after some minor tweaking). Since Ubuntu is a child of Debian, I expect it will work for you too. Also, here is the Ubuntu 64-bit users forum HERE Install guide HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Hmmm... seems like your hard drive doesn't like where you are trying to install it? Did you specify where you wanted Ubuntu to install? As has been said here many times, make sure that you have unpartitioned space on the disk you want to install Ubuntu to... and let Ubuntu do it's thing.I just installed Debian x64 Lenny on my computer today and it worked fine (after some minor tweaking). Since Ubuntu is a child of Debian, I expect it will work for you too. Also, here is the Ubuntu 64-bit users forum HERE Install guide HERE i got it installed using the alternative cd but not it wont get past the boot screen and just gives me error codes. :cry: i don't know what to do ? maybe im going to have to make sure the disk is formatted and doesn't have a ntfs partition on it. Edited July 28, 2008 by smooth3006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 What error codes? I would suggest removing the "Linux" partitions you created. The installer will create them for you. Just remove the partitions. Delete them with any disk utility, so they are unallocated. The installer will see the free space and offer to install there. No need to touch your NTFS. It can stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 What error codes?I would suggest removing the "Linux" partitions you created. The installer will create them for you. Just remove the partitions. Delete them with any disk utility, so they are unallocated. The installer will see the free space and offer to install there. No need to touch your NTFS. It can stay. it stays at the boot screen for several minutes and won't load. then a black screen with a blinking cursor pops up and starts gives a bunch of error codes and i have to reboot. i know the hard drive is good because i use it for extra storage for my vista install. and so you know i set up the linux partitions during the install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sounds like it doesn't know where your root partition might be. Did you manually pick your partitions by any chance? EDIT: Seems you added the answer I was seeking! That's the problem, I am 99% sure. Remove those partitions. Let the installer do its thing, and you will be golden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sounds like it doesn't know where your root partition might be.Did you manually pick your partitions by any chance? EDIT: Seems you added the answer I was seeking! That's the problem, I am 99% sure. Remove those partitions. Let the installer do its thing, and you will be golden! i thought you had to set up your partitions, i mean won't letting it set up by itself erase my ntfs partition or format my other 80gb drive with vista on it ? doesn't make sense to me because i tried to install a few times before and i couldn't get past the boot screen to even do the install. i finally installed it using the alternative cd and still had issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 No. You don't have to. Linux distros had automatic partitioning for as long as I can remember (count that at 8+ years). And if you have unallocated space, Linux knows to offer to use that - without interfering with any existing partitions. There was another thread here about someone installing Fedora. He tried setting up partitions, too. It's just easier if you don't. At least until you know what you might desire in partitioning. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 No. You don't have to. Linux distros had automatic partitioning for as long as I can remember (count that at 8+ years).And if you have unallocated space, Linux knows to offer to use that - without interfering with any existing partitions. There was another thread here about someone installing Fedora. He tried setting up partitions, too. It's just easier if you don't. At least until you know what you might desire in partitioning. ;) i still don't understand why it wouldn't install the first few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm not sure either. But from the picture you took of your screen, it seems there was an I/O error on fd0? (right where the glare from the flash or some light source is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm not sure either. But from the picture you took of your screen, it seems there was an I/O error on fd0? (right where the glare from the flash or some light source is) yeah that's what it said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 Well, that is the floppy, for what it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Well, that is the floppy, for what it is worth. the thing is i don't have a floppy drive installed on my pc, just a dvd /rw rom. well i guess i won't be using linux for now. Edited July 28, 2008 by smooth3006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 Maybe it is enabled in BIOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 i disabled the floppy in the bios, even though i never had one installed to begin with. now im getting different error codes such as : ata revalidation failed errno=5 ata 1.00: staus: drdy im about to say the heck with linux and stick with my vista install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech God Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Do you have a program installed that makes a fake floppy drive? like drive image or norton ghost? I don't have a floppy drive either but one appears in My Computer. Also, turn off external hard drives during the install process, i find they cause error codes on linux installations (don't know why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=NickJ= Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 No. You don't have to. Linux distros had automatic partitioning for as long as I can remember (count that at 8+ years).And if you have unallocated space, Linux knows to offer to use that - without interfering with any existing partitions. There was another thread here about someone installing Fedora. He tried setting up partitions, too. It's just easier if you don't. At least until you know what you might desire in partitioning. ;) By default the Ubuntu install wants to erase the whole disk and use that, you have to manually select "Use largest continuous free space" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Do you have a program installed that makes a fake floppy drive? like drive image or norton ghost?I don't have a floppy drive either but one appears in My Computer. Also, turn off external hard drives during the install process, i find they cause error codes on linux installations (don't know why) if windows sees a floppy controller, it'll add a floppy drive to my computer, as for the fd0 error in ubuntu, just disable the fdd controller in the bios and it'll get past that (seen it a few times) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) yeah ubuntu is way to much trouble for the average user to install. im having so many issues with it right now. i want to get the firestarter firewall to start automatically after reboot and it won't. now i can't get certain important security updates either, i tried to check the box as in the screenshot i posted and it won't let me. i enabled the mediabuntu repository and i get errors that it can't connect to the site when updating. i found the fix for my issues with installing ubuntu in the first place, apparently it's a well known bug. heres the fix i can't get my multimedia keyboard buttons to work. i have an xbox controller i can't get to work. the only way i can take a screenshot is through gimp. ubuntu seems buggy to me. i might just stick with vista afterall. Edited July 28, 2008 by smooth3006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2008 Funny, but installation goes fine for me. You don't need "firestarter", because it isn't a firewall. iptables is your firewall, and firestarter is just a front end to making customized settings. What did you need firewalled? If you want to work with Ubuntu, there are plenty of people to help out here. If you want to just use Vista that's fine. I hear Neowin has a good Vista section, too. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Funny, but installation goes fine for me.You don't need "firestarter", because it isn't a firewall. iptables is your firewall, and firestarter is just a front end to making customized settings. What did you need firewalled? If you want to work with Ubuntu, there are plenty of people to help out here. If you want to just use Vista that's fine. I hear Neowin has a good Vista section, too. ;) ive been doing some reading and most of what im experiencing is bugs that have been reported to launchpad. i gave up on ubuntu for now, im going to try kunbuntu and see if it makes a difference or not ? maybe this is only related to the x64 bit installs ? i really want to give linux a try and steer away from windows for now. these issues are a pain in the butt but im determined to have a working linux install. whats this about iptables ? i thought linux didn't have a firewall installed by default ? i do need a firewall as im not behind a router. i was just having alot of issues with firestarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted July 29, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2008 Kubuntu is a Ubuntu with KDE for a Desktop Environment, and the set of KDE (qt-based) apps. It runs all the same software that Ubuntu, if that makes any sense to you at this point. iptables is the standard firewall. Interface to it is via commands, so that is why front-ends like firestarter are often used for easier management. I've not even looked at Ubuntu's firewall manager since I switched from a RedHat based distro (Fedora) to *buntu. I used firestarter many years ago, and did not have good luck with it, but Red Hat had a nice simple front-end they wrote and included that was very simple, and I used that instead. If you want to read up on iptables, the official netfilter/iptables site has lots of documentation. http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/ (It is a bigger bite than I choose to get involved with, so I don't know much about it at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 well it's also a no go with kunbuntu and the fixes i posted for ubuntu don't work with kunbuntu so it wont even get past the boot screen. maybe this is just an issue with the x64 installs ? i dunno but im not going with a 32bit as i need to utilize my 4gigs of ram. i can sort of see why alot of people steer clear of linux on "newer systems" . too much work to even install it and so far ive had nothing but issues when i finally did get it installed. thanks for all of your help guys, looks like im sticking with vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xp1ode Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Well what were other problems you were having with your 64bit install. I have Hardy 64bit running quite fine on my new machine. 4 gigs of ram sure is fun, anyways try to tell us what other probs you had maybe we can help you get it to how you want it, and if not like Mark said, the ubuntu forums and the IRC channels are extremely helpful, i know i use them often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) Well what were other problems you were having with your 64bit install. I have Hardy 64bit running quite fine on my new machine. 4 gigs of ram sure is fun, anyways try to tell us what other probs you had maybe we can help you get it to how you want it, and if not like Mark said, the ubuntu forums and the IRC channels are extremely helpful, i know i use them often. well other than i can't install kunbuntu at all and the fix i posted for ubuntu doesn't seem to work for kunbuntu. i added and enabled the mediabuntu repository and i get 404 errors when trying to use the update manager. for some reason i can't check off the important security update box in software sources, it just won't let me check it. ive checked online and there are others having the same issues with no luck fixing it. i just don't think installing an operating system should go so bad. i know it's not my pc because it's a newer build and vista works fine. is 804.1 a new build ? maybe it's just buggy ? edit: it was confirmed on the ubuntu forums that these issues seem to be in x64 installs only. so looks like ill have to hold off on linux until they fix this. Edited July 29, 2008 by smooth3006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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