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Prove it then...

.deb/rpm etc not included.

Boy, you just don't look for yourself to learn, do you?

http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruslist.html?id=48280 <- virus, no need to compile

http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encycl...a?virusid=21720 <- virus, no need to compile

http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruslist.html?id=3994 <- virus, no need to compile

http://www.symantec.com/security_response/...-091311-5851-99 <- WORM, no need to actively download, as it scans for vulnerable PCs and exploits them

http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog?weblogid=183651915 <-- The famous Proof-of-Concept binary that infects both Windows and Linux

And, rpms and debs would not need to be compliled, so your whole stance seems to have shifted already. Pick a point and stick with it.

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Ubuntu tweak, virtualbox, VLC, bmpx (for online radio) and audacious (for music playback)

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Prove it then...

.deb/rpm etc not included.

no need to prove anything, markjensen is the most decent forumer around here, anyone with some time here can tell. what he writes is for informative purposes with facts. so dont take it personal but rest asure, always trust what he says.

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well i wanted a antivirus scanner just in case, i know i don't need it but i also dual boot with vista. just like i installed Gufw interface to make sure my iptables firewall was configured correctly. you NEVER can be too safe on any operating system.

oh yeah for any ubuntu newbies : heres a great guide for your audio / multimedia

ive got ubuntu configured the way i want it now, i love it and we may switch over to it totally. minus the fact i guess i can't get my windows mobile pda device to sync with linux right now. :(

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... but rest asure, always trust what he says.
I wouldn't go that far, as I have been wrong on numerous occasions. ;) I like to discuss things, and I tend to be fact-based. But that is "fact" in the truest definition, as an item that can be proven or disproven. And some facts can be found to be wrong.
... i love it and we may switch over to it totally. minus the fact i guess i can't get my windows mobile pda device to sync with linux right now. :(
The PDA sync item may be a make-or-break item, I am afraid, but it is interesting to see your exploration develop!
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im going to be installing ubuntu on my dads & brothers pc in a week. they have pretty old computers and windows just slows it down to much. anyways my dad might switch over to ubuntu totally if he likes it ? i told him already that open office is a great alternative to microsoft office. he needs his encyclopedia brittancia though. is their any free encyclopedias out there or can he use his current one under wine ?

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im going to be installing ubuntu on my dads & brothers pc in a week. they have pretty old computers and windows just slows it down to much. anyways my dad might switch over to ubuntu totally if he likes it ? i told him already that open office is a great alternative to microsoft office. he needs his encyclopedia brittancia though. is their any free encyclopedias out there or can he use his current one under wine ?

EB? http://support.britannica.com/linux/linux.htm

Seems to support Linux pretty well to me!

If this is a lower end computer, I would recommend Xubuntu over Ubuntu, as it uses the lighter XFCE, but is still visually pleasing and easy to use. I would also urge you to try using Abiword and Gnumeric over OO.o. I like OO.o, but it is a bit too heavy to win my recommendation.

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EB? http://support.britannica.com/linux/linux.htm

Seems to support Linux pretty well to me!

If this is a lower end computer, I would recommend Xubuntu over Ubuntu, as it uses the lighter XFCE, but is still visually pleasing and easy to use. I would also urge you to try using Abiword and Gnumeric over OO.o. I like OO.o, but it is a bit too heavy to win my recommendation.

the specs of his pc are: pentium 3 / 750mhz. with 512mb ram & 40gb hdd. not sure if i should use ubuntu or xubuntu ? as far as abiword i guess that sounds fine. he does like using microsoft office and i know he needs a good equivalent.

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Mmm with that specs I would go for Xubuntu, GNOME I have found out needs at least 1 GB or ram for being snappy.

thanks i assume it will still look good though right and have all the applications that ubuntu has ?

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okay i downloaded xubuntu and burned it to cd. seems to be alot small in size than ubuntu ? i just need to make sure ubuntu apps will work with xubuntu as well ?

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Xubuntu comes with it's own "lighter" versions of Ubuntu's apps, to compliment the lighter desktop environment. However, both XFCE (Xubuntu) and Gnome (Ubuntu) use the GTK widgets as a base, and as such each can use the same apps if required. Both distros share the same repos.

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Yes. The primary difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is that Xubuntu uses the lighter XFCE to replace the Gnome that is found in Ubuntu. The way Linux works is that the GUI Window Managers can be freely exchanged without impacting the running of apps.

That is, I use Fluxbox, which is a very minimal desktop - no start button, no desktop icons. I can still run the same Firefox, OpenOffice, k3b, etc. apps from all varieties. What makes a "Gnome" app a "Gnome" app, is that it uses a set of libraries common to other Gnome apps. My only 'punishment', per se, for mixing KDE and Gnome apps, is that I must also have those libraries installed and used, if I use those apps.

No big deal.

They will all work.

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Yes. The primary difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is that Xubuntu uses the lighter XFCE to replace the Gnome that is found in Ubuntu. The way Linux works is that the GUI Window Managers can be freely exchanged without impacting the running of apps.

That is, I use Fluxbox, which is a very minimal desktop - no start button, no desktop icons. I can still run the same Firefox, OpenOffice, k3b, etc. apps from all varieties. What makes a "Gnome" app a "Gnome" app, is that it uses a set of libraries common to other Gnome apps. My only 'punishment', per se, for mixing KDE and Gnome apps, is that I must also have those libraries installed and used, if I use those apps.

No big deal.

They will all work.

here is a list of what i will be installing for him :

multimedia guide on the ubuntu forums "flash, java, etc."

envy / nvidia drivers

encyclopedia brittanica linux

avant window navigator?

hp printer drivers

avast linux edition scanner

gufw firewall interface for iptables

adobe reader

wine

transmission

open office / i have been told abiword & gnumeric might be a better choice for him ?

ive been told on the ubuntu forums these should all work fine under xubuntu. of course alot of people there tell me just to go with ubuntu too. :wacko:

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Mmm with that specs I would go for Xubuntu, GNOME I have found out needs at least 1 GB or ram for being snappy.

What are you smoking? Gnome runs well on 512MB.

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Flash should be installed as soon as you browse to a website with flash. Same with Java.

Ubuntu (and, yes, Xubuntu) will automatically prompt you to install the nVidia drivers.

HP printer should "just work", but depends on what model

Avast? What for? I have it installed just to see what it looks like.

iptables is already included. What customizations to the rules were you needing?

pdf readers are in surplus in *nix, and you will have at least one pre-installed when you install x/ubuntu

wine is sort of cool. Not sure if it is immediately installed but is easy to add.

transmission torrent client is installed by default

Abiword and Gnumeric have to be added, but I recommend installing them and trying them both. The startup time is so much better! (Y)

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Yea, Gnome runs well on 512MB, but fluxbox/openbox runs given better.

I am a big fan of *box, but would not hand it off to a Windows user as his/her first introduction to Linux.

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i get alot of different opinions from people, should i go with xubuntu or regular ubuntu for his system ? i just want to give him the fastest, best experience i can along with being able to install all of the apps i listed above.

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i get alot of different opinions from people, should i go with xubuntu or regular ubuntu for his system ? i just want to give him the fastest, best experience i can along with being able to install all of the apps i listed above.

Just install xubuntu... even from there you can install ubuntu-desktop and have both a gnome desktop and xfce4 desktop, with the ability to easily switch to either one you would prefer as the default, or vice-versa, install ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop and have access to xfce4. Once you install you will see that it doesn't matter.... I can get any app I want regardless of qt or gtk on any desktop environment.

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Just install xubuntu... even from there you can install ubuntu-desktop and have both a gnome desktop and xfce4 desktop, with the ability to easily switch to either one you would prefer as the default, or vice-versa, install ubuntu then install xubuntu-desktop and have access to xfce4. Once you install you will see that it doesn't matter.... I can get any app I want regardless of qt or gtk on any desktop environment.

thanks, thats all i needed to know, ill go with xubuntu for him.

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If they are a new user I would start with Gnome because it is a very "complete" desktop environment. Nautilus is a very full featured file browser supporting many useful protocols. The Xfce equivalent, Thunar, is very light compared to Nautilus and really only supports the bare minimum (no FTP or SFTP). But there is nothing stopping you from running Gnome apps on Xfce, indeed I use Nautilus and Gedit on my Xfce DE.

So start off with Gnome and like Boktai1000 said you can install xubuntu-desktop to try out Xfce and then easily switch between them.

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Xubuntu first. Start off with the quicker one. If they need the extra crutch of Gnome, then it is a simple sudo apt-get install ubuntu desktop away.

Smooth, there isn't as much separation between Xubuntu and Ubuntu as you seem to think there is.

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well tomorrow is the big day to install xubuntu on my dads and brothers pc. might take me the entire weekend to get things configured but i think it will be worth it and i want to get them hooked. wish me luck. :laugh:

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