Why is the Sony network so slow?

[popisdead uk]

I didn't aim that at you matey, sorry. If look back a few posts somebody said you can't blame the ISP - unfortunately he is wrong and that's all you can blame. They are responsible for providing you with access to the net at the speed you pay for, nobody else.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Except when you are trying to problem solve an issue as wide scale as this, you look for a common factor between everyone. That factor is everyone has slow speeds from the PSN, regardless of their ISP. So no, it's not as easy as shrugging it off and saying it's the ISP's fault.

Tiscali were the only ones under any real fire when that news popped up a few months ago. Unless you are actually trying to say that every ISP out there just hates the PSN and wants to throttle it for no reason?

Cause that makes so much more sense :wacko:

Please, it's not that popular that they need to cut back on the bandwidth being sucked up or anything. I'm going to look into the problem more with my ISP. I will contact them at some point, but in the mean time I will use the PSN ports to download through bittorrent and see if I can download at my usual rate.

[popisdead uk]

Not everybody is suffering at all.

[Sethos]

You can't keep blaming the ISP's :laugh:

It's obvious that the ISP is the problem here, regardless of what their customer service department say (lets be fair, they normally have no idea of the question at the best of times)

It's a mix between certain ISPs and crappy PSN servers, that's for sure.

But so much easier to just sweep the real problem under the floor and blame everything else, aye?

My ISP works perfectly with every other service except PSN, they even said they aren't limiting anything, why would I get slow speeds on PSN constantly? Because the servers are slow in some regions of the world.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

I have said this before, and will say it again. I actually get just as fast, and in fact usually faster, speeds on my PS3 than my 360.

Which leads me to believe perhaps it is a Europe PSN issue?

[popisdead uk]

I have said this before, and will say it again. I actually get just as fast, and in fact usually faster, speeds on my PS3 than my 360.

Which leads me to believe perhaps it is a Europe PSN issue?

But then we have people in Europe that get great speeds - I've seen it on other peoples connections.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Which leads me to believe perhaps it is a Europe PSN issue?

I wouldn't doubt it for a second, we get screwed over with everything else!

[Fourjays Veteran]

Except when you are trying to problem solve an issue as wide scale as this, you look for a common factor between everyone. That factor is everyone has slow speeds from the PSN, regardless of their ISP. So no, it's not as easy as shrugging it off and saying it's the ISP's fault.

Did you miss all the comments from people saying they have no problem with speeds at all?

It doesn't necessarily mean it is the ISP either. There are any number of things between the PS3 and the ISP that could be the common factor.

[DR3AMxCATCHER]

I'm not flaming or starting a fight about anything, just using my own facts for a example.

Xbox 360 download for Madden NFL 2009 10 minutes

PS3 download for Madden NFL 2009 3 hours and 10 minutes

Although...this is a interesting thing I saw

MLB: The Show 08 25 minutes

Res Fall of Man 30 minutes

I don't understand the idea though. Madden NFL 2009 was downloaded at 7:00 and didn't finish until 10:10...others started afterward and finished quicker then it.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I'm not flaming or starting a fight about anything, just using my own facts for a example.

Xbox 360 download for Madden NFL 2009 10 minutes

PS3 download for Madden NFL 2009 3 hours and 10 minutes

Although...this is a interesting thing I saw

MLB: The Show 08 25 minutes

Res Fall of Man 30 minutes

I don't understand the idea though. Madden NFL 2009 was downloaded at 7:00 and didn't finish until 10:10...others started afterward and finished quicker then it.

Gods telling you Madden is a waste of your time :rofl:

[spenser.d]

Did you miss all the comments from people saying they have no problem with speeds at all?

It doesn't necessarily mean it is the ISP either. There are any number of things between the PS3 and the ISP that could be the common factor.

No he didn't miss it, he just came to a logical conclusion. If people across all ISP's are having this problem, and there are other people across all these ISP's not having this problem, it can hardly be blamed on the ISP. It seems that it would more likely be a sporadic PSN problem. Of course it's not quite that simple though ;)

-Spenser

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

^ thank you Stifler, exactly what I meant.

Like I said though, I will test the ports on my computer and then I can tick that off the list for the possible reasons the speed is slow.

[Coldgunner]

Although my download speed is about the same for each, the US store seems a lot faster than the EU.

There are many factors to take into account when dealing with speeds:

client unit

router/LAN set up

ISP traffic management

PSN speed at peak and off-peak hours

it could be any one of or a combination of the above.

[Fourjays Veteran]

No he didn't miss it, he just came to a logical conclusion. If people across all ISP's are having this problem, and there are other people across all these ISP's not having this problem, it can hardly be blamed on the ISP. It seems that it would more likely be a sporadic PSN problem. Of course it's not quite that simple though ;)

-Spenser

^ thank you Stifler, exactly what I meant.

Like I said though, I will test the ports on my computer and then I can tick that off the list for the possible reasons the speed is slow.

My mistake, misunderstood what you were saying. :)

I'm not particular knowledgable about routers and so on, but could it be possible that certain routers, or certain routers on certain ISPs or some other commonly occurring factor, are the source of the slowness? i.e. There is some sort of incompatibility between the way the PS3 communicates and a certain router/ISP setup.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

For the best part, ISP's will supply their customers with the routers so it shouldn't cause any troubles.

But generally no the hardware shouldn't make a difference. I use my own and opted out of using my ISP's.

[Guest]

Quick question, is the PS3 wireless N spec?

[Coldgunner]

no, just G

I think it has a 1Gb nic though.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Nope, and incase you ask, no you can't use USB Wireless N adapters either :p

Coldgunner, it's B and G. And yeah you are right it's giga ethernet.

[sk3]

Although my download speed is about the same for each, the US store seems a lot faster than the EU.

There are many factors to take into account when dealing with speeds:

client unit

router/LAN set up

ISP traffic management

PSN speed at peak and off-peak hours

it could be any one of or a combination of the above.

I tested with the EU store and the US store and on the EU store i rarely exceed 500KB/s-700KB/s depending of the hour of the day. On the other side, i can reach EASILY 1MB/s on the US store. I downloaded some videos today and i checked on my router the downstream traffic (with dd-wrt v24) and i was getting about 1.8MB/s. That might be about 1.5MB/s (excluding some overhead because of the other 2 computers connected) from the US store. almost 3 times faster than the EU lol. i can also say that when i download something from the US store the MB count from the download looks like seconds to me :laugh:

EDIT: i did this at 9:00PM GMT on both stores