DGMurdockIII Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I would like to see a reactos forum for people that would like to use reactos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom01 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I would like to see a reactos forum for people that would like to use reactos It may be negotiable in ten to fifteen years time, when it's actually usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 16, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted September 16, 2008 Like this: http://www.reactos.org/forum/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetix63 Veteran Posted September 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 16, 2008 Sorry, but no. Not on Neowin right now, until there is a large enough user base to warrant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted September 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 16, 2008 It s still alpha, might even be pre-alpha. Good idea, but in a little while when it's a bit more stable you might want to bring it up again ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted September 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 16, 2008 Until such time that ReactOS hits 0.3% or so, I don't see a need for a separate Neowin subforum for it. Until then, there is the official ReactOS forum, or just post in Neowin's General Software I would imagine. (I predict for technical questions, the ReactOS forum would be best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 as great of a project as ReactOS is, I don't see the need for a subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadgeek9 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Sorry, but no. Not on Neowin right now, until there is a large enough user base to warrant it. Yeah, it's still in Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshalus Veteran Posted September 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 20, 2008 If we make one for that, we'd need one for every other odd ball OS out there. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted September 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 20, 2008 ...Kinda silly, even super poor people can afford a win98 machine now. Which is what this clones ... right? XP/2003 http://www.reactos.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadgeek9 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 XP/2003http://www.reactos.org I'm downloading it right now, I'm just going to try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'm downloading it right now, I'm just going to try it out. Don't expect too much, it's not much more than a toy at the moment. All the builds that I have tried are unstable and border on unusable. This project is a nice pipe dream, but too many of their critical coders have parted ways, and it takes some time for the replacements to pick up the slack. Windows is a moving target, and this project will always be undermanned and underfunded, I don't expect it to ever be a viable Windows clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted September 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 20, 2008 Don't expect too much, it's not much more than a toy at the moment. All the builds that I have tried are unstable and border on unusable. This project is a nice pipe dream, but too many of their critical coders have parted ways, and it takes some time for the replacements to pick up the slack. Windows is a moving target, and this project will always be undermanned and underfunded, I don't expect it to ever be a viable Windows clone. The moving goalposts analogy is spot-on. Originally, it was a Win95 clone, and so forth. Now, in order to remain relevant, they need to duplicate XP (and soon, Vista). It is a great project, and interesting to keep an eye on the work they are doing (and they have done some amazing things). But, in most respects, you would be better running Linux and using wine to run your Windows apps. (the reactos and wine groups work closely together, I hear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Originally, it was a Win95 clone, and so forth. Now, in order to remain relevant, they need to duplicate XP (and soon, Vista). I do think one of the ways they could make the project a bit more relevant would be to branch the development tree to target specific versions of Windows functionality. Take for instance, Windows 2000 is approaching the end of it's life cycle, if they were to push for a stable release compatible to Windows 2000 standards and then provide security updates on an on going basis it 'could' be an alternative for organizations with legacy hardware and software applications to exist in a maintained environment. With that said, reactos would have a lot to prove to earn the trust of IT managers to make it a viable switch, and the reactos team would have to adopt such a development model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted September 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 20, 2008 ^^^ Except it would have to be more than just 100% Windows 2000 compatible. They already *have* that! It's called Windows 2000. Why replace an aging Win2000 install with a clone ReactOS2000? The ReactOS has to do something to differentiate itself. Updates to keep fixing "bugs"? But what about some software that relies in the same idiosyncrasies to operate properly? New features? Perhaps "XP"-like features? Or Vista-like enhanced security (after all ReactOS would be, by necessity, vulnerable to the same malware that affects Microsoft versions)? Providing exact Win2000 types of releases may sound good, but I don't see that serving much of a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 20, 2008 In terms of the original request, we generally wait until the need is obvious. If SD&A has so much activity from so many ReactOS threads that people are having trouble finding other stuff then we'll split it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Providing exact Win2000 types of releases may sound good, but I don't see that serving much of a purpose. My thinking is probably in opposite terms to yours in that some aspects of 2000/XP/2003 were deprecated with the release of Vista. If you snapshot a specific point of capability that ReactOS is either Vista capable or <=2003 capable then the supported software library is more clearly defined. These deprecated modes (ie. DirectDraw Retained Mode, and others?) probably only affect a limited number of applications, but it does factor in when Microsoft decides to deprecate a previous operation with a newer operation, and in some cases, removes support for the deprecated operation altogether. ReactOS may be capable of maintaining both functions simultaneously and not deprecating the predecessor, then they would definitely have set themselves apart from Windows. Do we need another Windows 2000? You're right, we don't. I'm thinking in terms of baselining a system to meet a specific set of functionality rather than build releases fluctuating between various levels of interoperability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sure, and you probably expect an OS/2 forum too :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Sure, and you probably expect an OS/2 forum too :p Or MenuetOS, a clearly superior OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Or MenuetOS, a clearly superior OS. That's a new one to me, but it looks promising if not a lot of work to complete. However, the release notes seem like frequent updates are being made, so maybe one day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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