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  1. 1. Should we use Ubuntu or LFS/Arch

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i'd say start from scratch.

I was reading the latest posts on the shift site and it said you guys were wanting to do something new and unique, and the only way to do that is to start from scratch and make it that way.

Too many linux distros are the same with the same stuff. especially the ones based on ubuntu.

See Crimson's post.

Seriously. It sounds like a good idea to make an LFS, but you actually have to package every single binary on the system. Not just the big ones like Firefox and GIMP, but all the hundreds of thousands of little ones that individuals here on Neowin might want.

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Sometimes it sounds like what is really on here is that you are wanting to start with Ubuntu Gnome as a base and to add killer extras to the UI from there. :huh:

If that's the case, just go for it! I know it will be great!! :D

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I think that the general idea being tossed around is an Arch base, and add in the 'ease of introduction' features like wubi and such that make Ubuntu popular. People complain about the number of ubuntu clones. About the ubuntu 'bloat'. And, for me, the ubuntu metapackages that make removing a single app like evolution rip out a whole heck of a lot more.

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See Crimson's post.

Seriously. It sounds like a good idea to make an LFS, but you actually have to package every single binary on the system. Not just the big ones like Firefox and GIMP, but all the hundreds of thousands of little ones that individuals here on Neowin might want.

with the right sort of scripts coded up it won't be as bad as you think

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Packaging what *I* want wouldn't be tough.

But packaging what every Neowinner wants is a bit more work. And, if a new person uses it and wants to install feh? And it isn't currently available? +1 frustrated user.

Building upon an existing binary platform would be much better than creating a distro from source code.

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One killer feature would be to have a "Install/Uninstall" menu to organise your programs just like in Ubuntu. It was one of my favourite features, and would be very useful to someone who is going to take a dive into Linux for the first time.

Before we progress further, we need to put together our aims for the project and model the distro around it. This time, we have to try to be different.

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/me votes for Arch-based.

I say Arch because there are a bunch of different forks of Ubuntu already, such as Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Gobuntu, and LFS takes **WAAAYYY** too long. (I can't emphasize that enough with words in a single post).

I might say try Gentoo since it comes with a package manager of its own, but knowing that Gentoo is pretty much completely source-based, Arch is a much better option in my opinion.

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