[SPOILER] Gears of War 2 Story Discussion


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So, I've just finished Gears of War 2 and I had a couple of things I wanted to discuss with whoever had played it too.

After the credits you can hear Adam Fenix asking "What have you done?" Do you think the info by Adam that was found previously was forged or was Adam working for the Locust and somehow managed to escape towards the end?

What the hell was going on at the research facility you find after you kill the RiftWorm? What happened to the guy that became the recording? You do not find him in the mountain IIRC.

Where did the Queen and the remaining Locust escape to?

Is Sera the name of a fictional planet or is it the Locust name for Earth?

I have more questions but will post them when I remember them.

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I've finished the story mode just this minute. It's great. The last level is way too easy though. Is it actually possible to fail? I mean compared to Gears 1 :/

When you find maria it's pretty sad, for once a game actually made me sympathise with the character :p

I'll have more questions later, but it's a pretty good SP. Just not quite excellent :(

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i loved the last level, i think it was intended more like a nice treat after fighting a hard and long battle than an actual challenge, just for once, the odds are on your side :p

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I think Adam was just boning the Queen and got a little ****ed when she ran away.

The facility was probably doing gene research on Locust with the intent to create an army against them.

As for where they all went I don't know. Probably the local Starbucks.

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My main concerns:

- Where is Dizzy? What happened to him? Did he escape or suffer the same fate as Tai?

- I think there's something goin on between Marcus and Anya, some slight affection or something. Many times throughout the campaign, Anya tells Marcus to be careful and does it in a worried/caring tone. Marcus also appears extremely devastated when he doesn't hear Anya reply at the end. It surprised me because Marcus isn't the type of character that shows any of his feelings. I always knew something was going on between those two, the way he glanced at her in the first Gears hinted that.

- Who exactly is the Locust queen? She posseses many human features, was she infected by something? I hope the third installment will give us more backstory about her and what her life was like if she ever was human.

- And what about the Sires? What are they? Are they a different form of Locust? Are they to Gears as the "Flood" is to Halo?

If anything, this game left me with more questions than what I started off with. There's probably more on my mind, but I just can't seem to remember them all at the moment...

Is Sera the name of a fictional planet or is it the Locust name for Earth?

Fictional planet.

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- I think there's something goin on between Marcus and Anya, some slight affection or something.

I think it goes a bit beyond "slight affection" :laugh:

That look on the heli was just too intimate.

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After the credits you can hear Adam Fenix asking "What have you done?" Do you think the info by Adam that was found previously was forged or was Adam working for the Locust and somehow managed to escape towards the end?

Here is my take on it. Adam Fenix was a high-ranking officer in the COG who, after Emergence day, began studying the Locusts. This is why in GoW1, there is the raid on the Fenix mansion to retrieve the data on the tunnel the resonator failed to provide. Before GoW 1, he is likely to have been lost from the COG ranks: this is why Marcus tries to search for him but fails, ends up in a trial and in prison (That's the beginning of GoW 1). Dom mention that to Marcus (Beginning of Act 4) when Dom wants to start searching for Maria "After what you did for your father".

As Adam Fenix is alive, my guess is that he joined the Locust society for some reasons. One being that the COG may not be the "good" guys they pretend to be. The Stranded have displayed several times unwillingness to join the COG army.

Why would a human join the Locust? Probably because there is a third player: the Lambents.

What the hell was going on at the research facility you find after you kill the RiftWorm? What happened to the guy that became the recording? You do not find him in the mountain IIRC.

Ah the great Gears of Resident Evil part. It's likely that the Research Facility was operational long before Emergence day. When the recording speaks of the ascent to mount Kadar, he refers to a chairman Monroe. Yet, the current chairman of the COG is named Prescott.

Now, did you notice that the symptoms of the Rustlung (as described in the collectibles found in the Hospital) matches the medical record found of one of the patient found in the research facility? '

May be the Locust are humans who were transformed after exposition to the Imulsion and the Rustlung and that the Sires are the original locusts from which the drones and the kantus evolved

It's a bit far fetched as with the architecture of the Locust underground because the huge details of the architecture seems to suggest that the Locusts have been there for a long time, long before the Imulsion discovery and the Pendulum wars...

Where did the Queen and the remaining Locust escape to?

Besides Gears of War 3, you mean?

If you remember GoW 1, when Marcus and Dom access the computer in the Fenix mansion, you can see the 3D display of the Locust tunnel which are far larger than Anya expected them to be. They are likely to have plenty of others hideouts, one being the more obvious: Mount Kadar.

In GoW 1, six Lightmass bombs were unable to destroy the Locust, I doubt that the flooding from Jacinto would do better.

Is Sera the name of a fictional planet or is it the Locust name for Earth?

Fictional Planet for sure. In the middle of Act 2, B. Carmine wonders with Dom and Marcus where the Locusts come from: he says: "One of the moons or Resa" (which may be another planet). Earth has only one Moon so don't worry, there are no Locusts in our basements.

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Personally I am not asking any questions yet. Despite all the awesomeness of this campaign, nothing really happened other than gaining a few more questions along the way. These questions include "What happened to the Krill?", "What happened to the Berserker" and more importantly "Just who is Marcus' dad?". The campaign answered no questions so I don't think we really can make too much conjecture about it.

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Actually Sera is earth, "the surface of Sera will be ours" the locusts ae tryign to capture the surface of earth for themselves, aaand....

Terra ---- Sera

Also throughout the story formthe hints you pick up, it seems suggested the lousts may be creatd by humans, though the calendar and such suggest this may not be the case.

However the what have you done thing, Think of it this way, the locusts base was flooded, wich means the vast immulsion reserves where also flooded, wich means a LOT of locusts getting hit with immulsion and turning lambent.

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I've finished the story mode just this minute. It's great. The last level is way too easy though. Is it actually possible to fail? I mean compared to Gears 1 :/

When you find maria it's pretty sad, for once a game actually made me sympathise with the character :p

I'll have more questions later, but it's a pretty good SP. Just not quite excellent :(

'Twas too cliche for me to take seriously. I thought it was hilarious how she withered away like she was at the end of the first Indiana Jones movie, and the idea of Dom using a Boltok to blow her head off is great. If only there was an uncut version.

Is there a place to read all of the notes you pick up throughout the game?

War Journal > Collectibles ;)

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Personally I am not asking any questions yet. Despite all the awesomeness of this campaign, nothing really happened other than gaining a few more questions along the way. These questions include "What happened to the Krill?", "What happened to the Berserker" and more importantly "Just who is Marcus' dad?". The campaign answered no questions so I don't think we really can make too much conjecture about it.
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These questions include "What happened to the Krill?",

Asnwered in one of the first collectibles of GoW 2: Krills have been destroyed by the Lightmass bombs.

"What happened to the Berserker"

That's true, no more Berserker in GoW2. I guess it did not fit well in the GoW 2 campaign.

The Berserker was a boring locust in GoW1: the only way to defeat it was to micro-wave it with the Hammer of Dawn. Basically, attract her attention in a nice sunny spot, trigger the HoD, serve when crispy.

and more importantly "Just who is Marcus' dad?". The campaign answered no questions so I don't think we really can make too much conjecture about it.

See you in GoW 3!

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As Adam Fenix is alive, my guess is that he joined the Locust society for some reasons. One being that the COG may not be the "good" guys they pretend to be. The Stranded have displayed several times unwillingness to join the COG army.

Why would a human join the Locust? Probably because there is a third player: the Lambents.

I doubt he simply joined because the COG aren't as good as we think yet. The way the Locust are torturing the people isn't exactly fantastic either. Might be the Lambents or maybe he was a prisoner. Maybe he didn't really join and it was a trap and they tricked them into sinking the city and thus why he gave the message that he did at the end.
May be the Locust are humans who were transformed after exposition to the Imulsion and the Rustlung and that the Sires are the original locusts from which the drones and the kantus evolved

It's a bit far fetched as with the architecture of the Locust underground because the huge details of the architecture seems to suggest that the Locusts have been there for a long time, long before the Imulsion discovery and the Pendulum wars...

I didn't read or find all the collectables, but I did get the feeling that since the COG upper ranks had kept it classified for so long Sires enginered there were prototypes for super humans to use against other humans as part of the 100 year war (or however long it was). Maybe they aren't Locust but cross bred or something. I duno but if they were human engineered to use against other humans that may explain the secrecy.

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Only things I want to know is:

What are the Sires?

And where the the COG go after the sinking of Jacinto?

because if the Locust do somehow exist, where is a safe zone?

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yeah, it seems kind of the stupidest thing you can do, give up your only fortitude so you can flood the locust main camp? doesn't really give you an advantage as humans, because there are obviously still a lot more locust left than there are humans..

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Only things I want to know is:

What are the Sires?

And where the the COG go after the sinking of Jacinto?

because if the Locust do somehow exist, where is a safe zone?

There is no safe zone- Jacinto had a large sink hole and was already beginning to become overrun by the locust.

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I just completed the game today in one sitting and I thought it was pretty good. Hopefully they will be able to finish everything in the third one.

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