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Hey ya all :)

I ahve a question...I am trying to make my own forum and perl based chat room, to learn how perl and cgi and all that other fun stuff*L* I just have a small problem...first, I have no clue where to start*L* second, I don't know how lol I was wondering if anyone had any good sites with some sources, and "how-to's" that I could use and learn how to make my own. I want to learn programming, and I thought a webpage is a great way to start, so I needed something to put on my page, and thought a forum would be cool. I know HTML, and some javascript. Any help that anyone has would greatly help me :) Thanks

Also, does anyone know where I can download perl 5? I looked and it said I need perl 5 to host it on my server I think...so if someone could help me out with that as well, would help me a lot, thanks :)

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i've personally been learning PHP for a little while know and i must say i love it. i've never once looked at perl however, but it seems that a lot of people are moving to PHP. are you considering it? it works great on both windows/unix servers. the neowin forum is written in PHP. works great joined with mysql.

if you really really wanna learn perl though, i suggest you search google for "perl tutorial" or something like that.

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php? is that easy to learn? i heard it was a little harder to learn than perl, which is why i thought i would try perl, but think i will give php a shot as well, thanks :)

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) Masterful,Apr 8 2003, 02:03] php? is that easy to learn? i heard it was a little harder to learn than perl, which is why i thought i would try perl, but think i will give php a shot as well, thanks :)

Much easier then perl, a little harder then asp.net, but better :p

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Much easier then perl, a little harder then asp.net, but better :p

It is better than ASP, but no way better than ASP.NET.

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It is better than ASP, but no way better than ASP.NET.

o really, why is it not better than asp.net?

anyways learn php and mysql, its easy, I'm learning it right now :)

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Oh no..... I see a my Language is better than your Language war coming......

Peeeeeeeeeez

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ASP.NET is indeed powerful...but the good thing about learning php/mysql is that it is probably the most widely used right now, and it's very cheap -- free! actually. Which means that you can find really cheap hosting because they don't have to pay and software licensing fees, unlike ASP hosts or CFML, which both cost money and have to run on Windows servers, which also cost more money than a Linux-based server. In the end, the cost savings are passed down to you. I, for example, built a ColdFusion/MSSQL2000 web site that is hosted for $50/month. My other sites, that I built with php/mysql, are hosted with roughly the same resources for about $15/month.

Building forums sure is a good way to get to know a language...when I first started using CFML, there were no good forums out there for it, so I decided to write my own. Took a long time, but I learned a lot. Now I know CFML intimately :D

So...php is fast, cheap, relatively easy to learn, and there's LOTS of help resources out there! php has my vote

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ASP/ASP.NET is different from PHP, let's leave it at that.

ASP is very similar to PHP, it just uses another language (Visual Basic, instead of a C-shell like language).

ASP.NET is a total different concept. For now it supports 3 languages (Visual Basic, C# and JavaScript), but may support more in the future; it tries to separate design from programming; and many other powerful features.

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i think if i wanted to build a big powerful site on ms servers i'd learn ASP.net (probably in c#)

but if i wanted to build something that i'm going to hand around to others, i'd probably use PHP

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ASP.NET is indeed powerful...but the good thing about learning php/mysql is that it is probably the most widely used right now, and it's very cheap -- free! actually. Which means that you can find really cheap hosting because they don't have to pay and software licensing fees, unlike ASP hosts or CFML, which both cost money and have to run on Windows servers, which also cost more money than a Linux-based server. In the end, the cost savings are passed down to you. I, for example, built a ColdFusion/MSSQL2000 web site that is hosted for $50/month. My other sites, that I built with php/mysql, are hosted with roughly the same resources for about $15/month.

Building forums sure is a good way to get to know a language...when I first started using CFML, there were no good forums out there for it, so I decided to write my own. Took a long time, but I learned a lot. Now I know CFML intimately :D

So...php is fast, cheap, relatively easy to learn, and there's LOTS of help resources out there! php has my vote

.NET SDK is free. As for IDE, Web Matrix is also free.

For web server, you need IIS, but Apache support (Windows version only) was been announced some time ago.

OS must be Windows 2000 or higher. Linux port is yet far from complete.

Yes, PHP is cheaper.

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ASP.Net is interesting, but is tied in far too much with MS products. It's hard to find a host that supports it, and will probably cost you more when you do. And, of course, you can do most anything in EITHER language. Personally, I'd choose the cheaper route, but if you're looking to satisfy enterprise-level clients, look at ASP.Net, or even ColdFusion.

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