+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 17, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 17, 2008 According to a post on the F13 forums, employers are specifically requesting recruitment consultants not to send them World of Warcraft players, reports Eurogamer.net.The post, spotted by online gaming pioneer Raph Koster and posted on his blog, cites a recruiter working in the online media industry as saying that employers think WOW players are too sleep-deprived and distracted to be effective in the workplace. "Employers specifically instruct him not to send them World of Warcraft players," said the poster. "He said there is a belief that WOW players cannot give 100 per cent because their focus is elsewhere, their sleeping patterns are often not great, et cetera." There is a counter-theory that playing WOW - specifically, leading an active guild, which can involve some tricky management of people and time - makes for great employment experience, but the recruiter was having none of it. "I mentioned that some people have written about MMOG leadership experience as a career positive or a way to learn project management skills, and he shook his head. He has been specifically asked to avoid WOW players," the posted said. Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/empl...arcraft-players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted December 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 17, 2008 You gotta admit, its a fair point. They have to look at taking on someone who is commited to the job, not commited to obtaining the next highest level whilst trashing talking with elves and trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You gotta admit, its a fair point. They have to look at taking on someone who is commited to the job, not commited to obtaining the next highest level whilst trashing talking with elves and trolls i usually defend WoW players being one myself but i know someone right now and WoW has completely destroyed her life and consumed all her time personally, i don't let WoW take over my life. i have a full time job with takes priority over a game. i play 1 or 2 hours a day if at all. knowing what i know, if i was looking to hire someone and i could screen them for being a WoW playing i would. while all WoW players aren't totally consumed by the game, at the end of the day it's about $$$ and i'm not going to risk my company's $$$ on someone who could come in everyday being a zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) I used to play WoW... HARDCORE, I quit my job for a year - became top dps and class leader on the best guild in my server (top20 north american guild racing for world first boss kills). Then I sold my account and got out. I now work in telecom (again), and it's not unusual to come across a WoW player. The thing about WoW players, is you can tell their mind isn't on the job, or their own social well-being for that matter. It's on WoW. Most of them are still competent at their jobs, but the easiest way to get a conversation going with these people is to ask them about their WoW character as they do nothing else besides play WoW in their free time. They'll hit a party every so often or whatever, put on the charade that they have a life - but really, they're bored as hell at the party, ask them their talent build and you'll brighten their day. WoW is a highly addictive drug. I beat it. I've met WoW players, coke addicts, stoners and obsessive compulsive people who all deal with their addictions in the work place. Infact, most people have some sort of addiction or vice that probably affects their work to some level. We just don't let it affect our work so much to put our jobs in jeopardy. I probably wouldn't put my addictions on a resume, your employer doesn't need to know about it. If you're missing work or performing poorly because of it, maybe it's time for detox. Stay in control of your life. Edited December 17, 2008 by Erich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 They'll hit a party every so often or whatever, put on the charade that they have a life - but really, they're bored as hell at the party, ask them their talent build and you'll brighten their day. hahahaha so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I used to play WoW... HARDCORE, I quit my job for a year - became top dps and class leader on the best guild in my server (top20 north american guild racing for world first boss kills).Then I sold my account and got out. I now work in telecom (again), and it's not unusual to come across a WoW player. The thing about WoW players, is you can tell their mind isn't on the job, or their own social well-being for that matter. It's on WoW. Most of them are still competent at their jobs, but the easiest way to get a conversation going with these people is to ask them about their WoW character as they do nothing else besides play WoW in their free time. They'll hit a party every so often or whatever, put on the charade that they have a life - but really, they're bored as hell at the party, ask them their talent build and you'll brighten their day. WoW is a highly addictive drug. I beat it. I've met WoW players, coke addicts, stoners and obsessive compulsive people who all deal with their addictions in the work place. Infact, most people have some sort of addiction or vice that probably affects their work to some level. We just don't let it affect our work so much to put our jobs in jeopardy. I probably wouldn't put my addictions on a resume, your employer doesn't need to know about it. If you're missing work or performing poorly because of it, maybe it's time for detox. Stay in control of your life. Very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Thieves Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'm fairly sure the same could be said about any MMO player. Granted, with an subscription base hovering just around 11 million, it's easy to single out WoW, but I've met some pretty obsessed EVE players, and one of the higher-ups at my job is probably the biggest Star Wars Galaxies nerd I could imagine. Perhaps employers should start screening for addictive personality types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slane Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You gotta admit, its a fair point. They have to look at taking on someone who is commited to the job, not commited to obtaining the next highest level whilst trashing talking with elves and trolls lol. Thought MVC's were people who didn't bother with stupid ignorant comments. And could be respected. Guess not. I now work in telecom (again), and it's not unusual to come across a WoW player. The thing about WoW players, is you can tell their mind isn't on the job, or their own social well-being for that matter. It's on WoW. Most of them are still competent at their jobs, but the easiest way to get a conversation going with these people is to ask them about their WoW character as they do nothing else besides play WoW in their free time. They'll hit a party every so often or whatever, put on the charade that they have a life - but really, they're bored as hell at the party, ask them their talent build and you'll brighten their day.WoW is a highly addictive drug*. I beat it. I've met WoW players, coke addicts, stoners and obsessive compulsive people who all deal with their addictions in the work place. Infact, most people have some sort of addiction or vice that probably affects their work to some level. We just don't let it affect our work so much to put our jobs in jeopardy. I probably wouldn't put my addictions on a resume, your employer doesn't need to know about it. If you're missing work or performing poorly because of it, maybe it's time for detox. Stay in control of your life. * - If I'm hanging out with "the wrong crowd" and some zingers are laying out on the table, I'll do a rail. People claim it's highly addictive, but I have no desire to look for the stuff. I don't mind the buzz, but it's not worth me lightening my wallet by 1 penny (other people I've met look for jobs that don't drug test because they can't not be on the stuff). I've also indulged in many other drugs in my lifetime. Pot I am moderately addicted to, but I can control it enough so that it doesn't harm my social and occupational well-being. That's the thing, employers will usually give you plenty notice if you have to take a drug test, (except for pot :() most drugs are out of your system in 1 weekend. So if you're so addicted that you can't turn it off for 1 week, it's taken control of your life. Back to the metaphor though, like blow, pot, E, shrooms or whatever, I'll indulge if they're around and don't have stuff to do the next day, but you got to be able to say NO when you do. Your talking about how hiring a WoW player is bad news, when you admit to taking drugs, at that "hardcore" drugs "casually" and your saying a WoW player is a worse person to hire than yourself? Then discuss how you can beat drug tests to keep up this "habit", yet you claim your not addicted to it, but you know how to get away with it pretty well. WoW players = stereotype just like black people = love watermelons. Never 100% true, and the person stating it is an ignorant mother ****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 17, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 17, 2008 WoW players = stereotype just like black people = love watermelons. Never 100% true, and the person stating it is an ignorant mother ****er. Watermelons?! I thought it was fried chicken Although you are right, many stereotypes surround WoW. I played it casually myself on and off for a year, didn't do much to "destroy" my life, but it was addictive. I don't play any more, but that's due to an extensive Uni schedule, I can't commit to such time draining games :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 17, 2008 lol. Thought MVC's were people who didn't bother with stupid ignorant comments. And could be respected. Guess not.Your talking about how hiring a WoW player is bad news, when you admit to taking drugs, at that "hardcore" drugs "casually" and your saying a WoW player is a worse person to hire than yourself? Then discuss how you can beat drug tests to keep up this "habit", yet you claim your not addicted to it, but you know how to get away with it pretty well. WoW players = stereotype just like black people = love watermelons. Never 100% true, and the person stating it is an ignorant mother ****er. Anger issues? Antaris expressed his observations. And many WoW players do get over-obsessed with the game. And you try to make your point with vulgarities (thankfully censored) directed toward other members... Way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 lol. Thought MVC's were people who didn't bother with stupid ignorant comments. And could be respected. Guess not.... Your talking about how hiring a WoW player is bad news, when you admit to taking drugs, at that "hardcore" drugs "casually" and your saying a WoW player is a worse person to hire than yourself? Then discuss how you can beat drug tests to keep up this "habit", yet you claim your not addicted to it, but you know how to get away with it pretty well. WoW players = stereotype just like black people = love watermelons. Never 100% true, and the person stating it is an ignorant mother ****er. Looks like we found an avid WoWer. As a recovered WoWaholic, I agree completely with Antaris. Your obsession shows, which just adds more fuel to the point that is his fire. A word to the wise... let it go... it's only a game. JUST a game... let... it... go... and resume your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Redbeard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Very funny topic. Although I haven't worked many places, both at college and the jobs I had I had no problem finding someone who played. It's become another thing for people to share and be passionate about, it just consumes people, which is good... and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slane Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Anger issues? Antaris expressed his observations. And many WoW players do get over-obsessed with the game.And you try to make your point with vulgarities (thankfully censored) directed toward other members... Way to go. Meh, cursing is second nature to me, didn't bother to think about that. Angry? Nah, just annoyed threads like these is when all the WoW-bashing "addicts" come out the woodwork, with there "real life" friend's stories and overcomes of addiction. It's annoying and quite funny to be honest. Looks like we found an avid WoWer. As a recovered WoWaholic, I agree completely with Antaris. Your obsession shows, which just adds more fuel to the point that is his fire.A word to the wise... let it go... it's only a game. JUST a game... let... it... go... and resume your life. Obession? lol. Stereotying is easy to do. Can't blame any of ya though, 11 million players I'm sure your bound to hit the stereotype right with somebody, I mean you got a pretty big hit raidus there to. To bad all the "addicts" of WoW have left the game/overcame there addiction or are so low compared to the general wow population that it's not even worth mentioning unless you truly find someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Don't blame them. Every WoW addict I've known tries to drop it into every conversation which just shows they aren't thinking about anything else. You can't have that at a workplace. Look at it from the employer's perspective: between a WoW addict who only plays the game in his spare time, and a regular schmoe who's committed to work, who would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaf Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Why would you tell a potential employer you played WoW, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Why would you tell a potential employer you played WoW, anyway? because if you play WoW then you have nothing else to put on your resume :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenath Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Yay first post, Hi! Anyways, Its some what rude to go out and flame nearly 11 million people don't you think? Using stereotypes alone is a pathetic way to argue. Besides, How exactly do you *know* wow players cant work a decent job? They are forced into teamwork or quite possibly leadership when they get home to play their game to pass time, Doesn't that give them *good* Qualification? You all sound like you have a general distaste for wow players. On the original topic, They shouldn't even know their employee's play WoW anyhow. This also sounds frighteningly similar to racism. Don't companies that pull that stunt normally get Owned? Only difference is that instead of Blacks not getting jobs, its people that like to play MMO's in their spare time. My guess is I wouldn't want to work there anyways. Next job please! Edit 1: Audioboxer just pointed something out So I needed to edit this... Luckily I don't need to edit the top. One shouldn't tell your employer your hobbies unless that's an important part of your job and/or is beneficial to you. Edited December 17, 2008 by Adrenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 17, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 17, 2008 Why would you tell a potential employer you played WoW, anyway? Seems some people do it themselves "I mentioned that some people have written about MMOG leadership experience as a career positive or a way to learn project management skills, and he shook his head. He has been specifically asked to avoid WOW players," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophism Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I put that I played Eve-Online on my resume which apparently my boss had played at one point. I competed with about 100 other applicants for my position and playing an MMO certainly helped me in this case. I think this is a half glass full/half empty type of situation. You can either look at them being lazy etc or look at the team building etc it requires. I have never played WoW but I believe that many "missions" or whatever they are called require you to do them in groups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I wouldn't be so worry about their mind not being on the job at work. UI've worked with WoW playe, though tthey where serusly casual, not the hardcore fans in guilds with mandary raids and all that. and one thing I've found out about wow, Casual guilds are far and few between, most WoW guilds are about the raids and mandatory raids. no about the social aspect of just playing with other people. YEs, there are casual WoW gamers, but for some reason a very large percentage of the WoW players fall into the harcore category whre they play all night and all day if they can. and this is the problem, at the very least you'll have an emplyee that's tired and may even fall asleep at work, more possibly you'll have a employee who skips a lot of work days to stay home and play and raids and whatnot. personally I don't get it, I never found WoW that entertainign or something I wanted to play for long. I like MMORPGs and play them, but I find WoW to be one of the weakest, of the modern P2P MMORPGS of it's generations I'd een say it is the weakest. But then I don't even play the MMORPGS I do play regularly, in in my MMO periods I May only log in for a few hours every few days, or have the occasional late nighter on the weekends. but currently I haven't played an MMO since I took a pause after playing WAR during the launch, and currently have no real itnerest in playing again soon. some day I'll want to play an MMO again, and I'll prbably end up going back to Vanguard I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunna Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Don't blame them. Every WoW addict I've known tries to drop it into every conversation which just shows they aren't thinking about anything else. You can't have that at a workplace. Just imagine - a demonstration of military hardware... "The FMR-52 fires 500 rounds a second with enough power to punch 2 feet of armor plating at 2 miles... ..and it does +5 damage against trolls and vampire bats but weak against werewolves! Wait, no that's the stake gun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted December 17, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 17, 2008 I know 3 well paid, well respected and high-up people within my workplace who have in the last year called in sick to play WOW. THIS is why it's looked down on by industries. as it CAN BE addictive and take away from your day job. Same goes for drinking, drug use, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 lol this thread is the funneh! I have two kids and just this year (while playing ALOT of WoW) I got a promotion at work (Noice) got Married in July (again...Noice!) and 2 weeks ago bought my first house. It is addictive but you just gotta know where your priorities lie...and its not with your /played time lol Wow players are stereotyped as much as the next person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emorex Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Isn't this against employee rights? Just as you cannot ask on the resume someone's age or marital status, how can you ask if they play WoW? Also, if some idiot decides to put they have good project management experience from leading a WoW guild, they don't deserve to be hired, just for thinking project management == WoW Guild Management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted December 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 17, 2008 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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