betasp Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I will disagree with that. How many school massacres were there 50 years ago? Or drive-by shootings?So, these things aren't increasing, just getting reported more? Wow, facts are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Thieves Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wow, facts are nice. Awesome, now I can change my stance! Thanks betasp! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I will disagree with that. How many school massacres were there 50 years ago? Or drive-by shootings?So, these things aren't increasing, just getting reported more? To some degree i disagree with you. In the past people where killed for being witches and demons. There where more farmers back then who would fight over land and stab each other with pitch forks etc. Now days the arguments are different and the weapon of choice has changed, allowing for killings on a far greater scale. However, with general population growth etc, it is likely that the statistics are the same as they where all those years ago. The other problem IS that the media cover these stories more now, than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wow, facts are nice. And facts (especially if selected from a limited or specific time frame) also mislead. Let's look at the same usdoj site you got your chart from, so I use the same source, and look at their murder rates for the longest period they have: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/hmrttab.htm 1900: 1.2 1950: 5.3 2000: 6.1 Yes, the current values are down from the murder high point of 10.7 listed in 1980. But, overall, murders are up since the turn of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 this doesn't surprise me as he is the son of a preacher. they are very strict with their kids with everything they think is against god. the kid should be thrown in prison but i partly say it's from the parents being too strict with him during his childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix_ Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Source: Tomshardware, http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Halo-3-Shot-...news-29887.html Auther: Kevin Parrish A 17-year-old male shot his parents - killing his mother and wounding his father - all because they took Halo 3 away from him.ZoomThanks to this kid, you can now chalk another one up for politicians wanting to see the end of video games. Way to go, buddy. That?s probably a good summation of gamers worldwide after hearing Daniel Petric?s deadly retaliation. There?s nothing more sickening than violence related to games, especially sickening to those who depend on the medium as a source of income. Is this kid really a byproduct of electronic violence, or suffering the after-effects of a violent household? The vicious scenario, laid out by prosecutors during Monday?s trial, paints a familiar scene yanked from any crime drama. According to the prosecutors, Daniel sneaked out of his bedroom back in September 2007, and later snuck back in with a tasty, just-purchased retail copy of Halo 3. Banned from playing games of this nature, Daniel was forced to hand over the game once caught by his parents. Thus his father, Mark Petric, a minister at New Life Assembly of God in Wellington, took the copy of Halo 3 and locked it away in a lockbox located in his closet (which incidentally was the same place he kept a 9mm handgun tucked away). A month later, Daniel broke into the lockbox and retrieved both the Halo 3 game and the 9mm handgun. Once both items were in hand, Daniel went downstairs and approached his parents as they lounged on the couch. He asked them to close their eyes, claiming the he had a "surprise." Mark Petric, 45, testified that he was actually expecting a pleasant surprise. Unfortunately, that pleasant surprise turned out to be a shot in the head, killing the mother and "gravely" wounding the father. Daniel immediately place the gun in his father?s hand, saying "Hey Dad, here?s your gun. Take it." Mark, still alive, blood pouring from his bullet wound, his head numb, realized that his wife was dead. He believes that he is still alive because of his older daughter and son-in-law arriving at the house to watch an Indians game. "You guys shouldn?t come in," he heard Daniel tell the couple outside. "Mom and Dad had a big argument." Like some cue from a horror movie, Heidi and Andrew both said that they heard moans coming from inside the house, perhaps even calling out their names. After bursting into the house and investigating, they found the wounded father and dead mother. In response, Daniel picked up the gun, poised to kill, however Andrew managed to seize the weapon from the boy before any additional slayings occurred. Daniel fled in the family van, but was captured by police shortly thereafter, Halo 3 sitting in the front seat like some possessed Book of the Dead. Now on trial, Daniel faces charges of murder and attempted murder. He is being tried without a jury before Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge. Daniel?s lawyer commented that the boy was under heavy stress at the time of the incident, as a snowboarding accident left the teen with a severe staph infection. The accident also caused severe spinal damage, and the slightest injury could leave him paralyzed as a result (but he can climb out a window and hike all the way to a retail store to purchase Halo 3). Daniel became familiar with the Halo franchise while recuperating for a year, lying around watching television and playing games. His parents eventually banned games like Halo 3, saying that they are too violent. Lawyers prosecuting the case do not wish to seek the death penalty, and surprisingly enough, the boy?s family wants him home. In the year Daniel has been in custody, both father and son have mended bridges, and the family actually wants Daniel to come back home. "You?re my son," Mark Petric said after Daniel apologized for what he had done. "You?re my boy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Thieves Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Already posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix_ Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Damn, I was looking to see if it had already been posted in the news section :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 Threads merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I will disagree with that. How many school massacres were there 50 years ago? Or drive-by shootings?So, these things aren't increasing, just getting reported more? They're getting reported more, I'd say. Plenty of bad things have happened in all periods of our existence. I mean, look at the technological advances we've had in the media in the last 50 years. Before then you couldn't transmit such information so quickly to so many people as you can now. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0mbi Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 all over a copy of halo 3? im i the only person who owns a 360 who doesn't like halo 3? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malskazz Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Understandable if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 18, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted December 18, 2008 Understandable if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wow. Just...wow. I wouldn't dream of changing your position or stance on anything Mark. I'm just glad I'm not getting all butt-hurt over comments made in the Gaming section of a tech news site about a kid murdering his parents over Halo. You KNOW you are right! Don't think it, KNOW IT!You must be super fun at parties. Go you! (Y) Hilarious. Yes Mark. You're right, Mark. What was I thinking, Mark? Won't happen again, Mark. You like being pedantic and arguing semantics over trivial postings on a web forum, and apparently lack the ability to infer things from a statement. I will commit such to memory and make the effort to not post in error in reference to you again. We done now? ^^^This is why I never got into a debate [sic] [with you] in the first place; you just know where the "conversation" is going to go! Sorry, I could not help myself, I just had to react to your peerless whit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wow. And some of you thought the 16 (?) year old Barrie teenager was bad for running away because of a Xbox 360 ban. This is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted December 18, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2008 It is a video game... His parents didn't want him to play for a reason... Can't believe he'd go as far as to kill his own family over a video game. Now he won't ever get to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Redbeard Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hahahahhaha, ****. And to think I just wrote a paper on Video games aren't the cause of violence in youths! Damn, I hope my professor doesn't hear of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 i dont understand, what was the surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srugie Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 Messed up kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hahahahhaha, ****. And to think I just wrote a paper on Video games aren't the cause of violence in youths! Damn, I hope my professor doesn't hear of this! I'm undecided whether Halo WAS the cause for this. I'm thinking the kid used to be able to do whatever the **** he wanted to then his parents hit home with some strict rules. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm undecided whether Halo WAS the cause for this. I'm thinking the kid used to be able to do whatever the **** he wanted to then his parents hit home with some strict rules. Just my thoughts. Agreed. It could have happened because they took away his skateboard or something. The kid had issues, and two people suffered because of it. The fact that he schemed up a murder-suicide scenario really shows how sick he was, and that he knew what he was doing, and the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I hope that he is tried as an adult. The sad thing is how many are going to blame video games for this act of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasdfdasfa31231as Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I hope that he is tried as an adult. The sad thing is how many are going to blame video games for this act of violence. Surely the sad thing is that someone's been murdered, and another's nearly died? :p Although it is annoying people are still gonna blame it on video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wait wait wait!!! Did anyone else miss the part about the PASTOR owning a GUN? Excuse me??? Since when do churchies carry guns around, Pastors no less. Hey, i'm not condoning what the kid did, lock him up, but still - it doesn't add up very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 18, 2008 Wait wait wait!!!Did anyone else miss the part about the PASTOR owning a GUN? Excuse me??? Since when do churchies carry guns around, Pastors no less. Hey, i'm not condoning what the kid did, lock him up, but still - it doesn't add up very well. I didn't miss it. However, there is nothing wrong with a preacher having a gun. Heck, I know a preacher that rode a Harley. They aren't all stuffy wishy-washy people. He may have had it because he was a collector or enjoyed target shooting. Maybe home protection, if there were threats on his life, or that of his family. I really don't see the issue with him owning a gun just because he is a preacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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