tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hi folks, I'm wondering where/how the delete and copy commands can be changed; is it a registry modification or somewhere else, like shell32? I have seen programs that override the cut/copy/paste commands so it is possible somehow. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted January 6, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 6, 2009 Overwrite the commands? Meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Overwrite the commands? Meaning? Meaning that the built in functionality that deletes a file or copies a file from one place to another does not occur, but some other specified application handles deleting or copying the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubblex Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 disable the cmd excute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 disable the cmd excute? I don't understand what that means. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon8c Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think this is what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think this is what you want. Almost, but that only removes these commands from the context menu; as the author writes in there, he still can use keyboard shortcuts. Reshack doesn't seem to let you change what happens when the context menu items are clicked. If it did, it might give a clue as to where the functionality can be defined overall. Thanks though, I'll keep looking (and waiting)! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Tried terracopy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Tried terracopy? Yes, I have used that. What I'm wondering is how it hooks into the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon8c Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Uh, well, here's a thought. You just said shell32.dll probably doesn't let you change what happens when you click an option in a menu. Well, if you could test this by changing the name of one of the functions, let's say Copy, and testing it if it still works. If it does, then you'd probably have to figure out where the corresponding number (in the script line shown through ResHacker) refers to. I'm thinking when an option is clicked on, it calls the needed function using the number as the function's "part number," as if you were trying to find a certain item from a warehouse using an item no. All you need to find out now is where's the warehouse. You probably figured this much out already, but that's all I know. Oh, secondly, if Terracopy uses an installer, you could try disassembling that package to see what's it's doing precisely, if you're up to doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Uh, well, here's a thought. You just said shell32.dll probably doesn't let you change what happens when you click an option in a menu. Well, if you could test this by changing the name of one of the functions, let's say Copy, and testing it if it still works. If it does, then you'd probably have to figure out where the corresponding number (in the script line shown through ResHacker) refers to. I'm thinking when an option is clicked on, it calls the needed function using the number as the function's "part number," as if you were trying to find a certain item from a warehouse using an item no. All you need to find out now is where's the warehouse. You probably figured this much out already, but that's all I know.Oh, secondly, if Terracopy uses an installer, you could try disassembling that package to see what's it's doing precisely, if you're up to doing that. Sounds like a good idea. :) I'll give it a shot and see what I can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon8c Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Oh, and if the test doesn't work, you could probably figure that the name of the function would be the "part no./name." You'd still have to find the system detailing the function. (I wonder, then, what's the number for? o.o). Well, anyway, that's how I think programming languages and scripts work. I've only used AutoIt, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Oh, and if the test doesn't work, you could probably figure that the name of the function would be the "part no./name." You'd still have to find the system detailing the function. (I wonder, then, what's the number for? o.o). Well, anyway, that's how I think programming languages and scripts work. I've only used AutoIt, though... I was hoping it wouldn't require modifying a system file though. I don't think that programs like TerraCopy modify system dlls. Edited January 6, 2009 by tyraen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezron Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Take a look in the Teracopy program folder. I think it has a couple of .reg files that might be what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dis Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 have you checked the accelerators? in example: shel32.dll > accelerator 1 1 ACCELERATORS LANGUAGE LANG_ENGLISH, SUBLANG_ENGLISH_US { VK_Z, 28699, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_X, 28696, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_C, 28697, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_V, 28698, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_A, 28705, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_F1, 28785, NOINVERT, VIRTKEY VK_F2, 28690, NOINVERT, VIRTKEY VK_INSERT, 28697, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_INSERT, 28698, NOINVERT, SHIFT, VIRTKEY VK_DELETE, 28689, NOINVERT, VIRTKEY VK_D, 28689, NOINVERT, CONTROL, VIRTKEY VK_DELETE, 28689, NOINVERT, SHIFT, VIRTKEY VK_RETURN, 28691, NOINVERT, ALT, VIRTKEY } and take a look at the menu 216: MENUITEM "Delete", 28689, MFT_STRING, MFS_ENABLED MENUITEM "Copy", 28697, MFT_STRING, MFS_ENABLED see? the number means the command. so. what do you want exactly? in example, if you remove the accelerator, your ctrl+c shortcut will not work. at all. and so on... btw, programs work differently. they dont change system files. they do their jobs with system hooks or something. they change the command "on the fly" while running. or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraen Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 see? the number means the command. so. what do you want exactly? in example, if you remove the accelerator, your ctrl+c shortcut will not work. at all. and so on...btw, programs work differently. they dont change system files. they do their jobs with system hooks or something. they change the command "on the fly" while running. or something similar. I'm trying to figure out what has modified/hooked into XP and started giving me errors when renaming/deleting directories. When I try either, it gives me a message: "Cannot delete foldername: Selects special characters and copies them to your document." Which sounds kind of strange, but I believe it is a description for the Clipboard. I think that possibly there is a GUID pointing at the Clipboard description when it should be pointing at whatever is supposed to handle deletes/renames. But it's only a guess right now. Everyone has been very helpful in giving me new places to look for this, so thanks again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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