Mouldy Punk Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 bins are binary files, or executables. So you can just do ./whatever.bin in a terminal and it'll execute it - assuming you have permission to execute it. tarballs usually contain the sourcecode of an application. It needs to be extracted from the tarball and compiled. Way too much effort these days. Usually, software will have packages in various distro's repositories that are much easier to install. As far as I know, just installing openoffice.org-writer will just install OO.org's word processor, and not all the other stuff that comes with openoffice (spreadsheet etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 @markjensen Let's say I've understood half of what you said :p ... but I'm liking Linux :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2009 @markjensen Let's say I've understood half of what you said :p ... but I'm liking Linux :o :laugh: Read up what I added to the post about your nvidia drivers. It will help you. Yes, Linux package management is a lot different than Windows. Think of "yum" as a sort of combination of Windows Update for the whole install, plus a supermarket of software, so you can do all your shopping at the "repo mall". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 As far as I know, just installing openoffice.org-writer will just install OO.org's word processor, and not all the other stuff that comes with openoffice (spreadsheet etc). OOops! I need to full package. And yes, it only installed OO writer. So can you remove OO writer using yum, how? More questions. So basically, if I had to install a package from a downloaded file it won't update automatically. If I install from the repository (or whatever it is called) it will update and the packages would be more manageable. Is this right? Sorry for the English but I'm getting lost :blush: @markjensen: so basically you can get the packages from two places... anywhere from the internet or from yum (which is this sort of a software supermarket :p ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) OOops! I need to full package. And yes, it only installed OO writer. So can you remove OO writer using yum, how?More questions. So basically, if I had to install a package from a downloaded file it won't update automatically. If I install from the repository (or whatever it is called) it will update and the packages would be more manageable. Is this right? Sorry for the English but I'm getting lost :blush: Remove with yum remove packagename Yes, you are understanding the package manager and repositories a lot better now (Y) It is a strange concept at first, how everything you need could be right there with no need to manually download and install, and they all keep updated for you. But it makes managing a Linux box much easier than Windows (with their different manually installed apps that don't update). And your English is just fine. I didn't even know you were a non-native speaker until you kind of alluded to it in your post (and I looked at your listed location). EDIT: @markjensen: so basically you can get the packages from two places... anywhere from the internet or from yum (which is this sort of a software supermarket :p ). Yes. And the package manager is strongly preferred. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 oh thanks :) ... and the packagename would be openoffice.org-writer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Punk Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yes, it's the same package name as the one you used to install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted January 12, 2009 Probably just openoffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I've removed OpenOffice-Writer using yum. Then, after some research on the net I've found this: yum list|grep openoffice openoffice.org-brand.x86_64 1:3.0.0-9.10.fc10 installed openoffice.org-core.x86_64 1:3.0.0-9.10.fc10 installed openoffice.org-ure.x86_64 1:3.0.0-9.10.fc10 installed openoffice.org-writer-core.x86_64 1:3.0.0-9.10.fc10 installed ...strange! More questions... why isn't the numpad working? All Assistive technologies are turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I've removed OpenOffice-Writer using yum. Then, after some research on the net I've found this:yum list|grep openoffice ...strange! It would seem that Yum has removed the OOo-writer package, as you requested, but it has left behind other files that were pulled-in as dependancies when you originally installed it. If you're going to install the full OOo package, I wouldn't worry about this, because they need to be installed anyway for it to work (ie, the package depends on these files to be installed to work), but if you really don't want anything left behind, then simply yum remove packagename for each file to get rid of them. I'm not overly familar with Yum, but I expect there is a command that would automatically remove the requested package and it's dependancies too at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Just install a GUI package manager already... :laugh: You can install something like synaptic (it's common on Debian-like systems but it also works great with Fedora). This is a graphical tool that let's you add/remove software in a very easy way, it can show you what is installed, what is available to install and you can easily search for packages you wish to install. Basically, something like this does the same as yum but it's a lot easier to use. yum install synaptic EDIT: Also: http://www.fedorafaq.org/ This page will answer most of your simple questions. Edited January 12, 2009 by Lechio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Thanks mate. I've installed that RPM thingy... but I'm not sure I did the right thing. I will install Synaptic, but I really want to get used to Terminal... since it doesn't look that difficult. EDIT: What if there is something which is not found by YUM... like Picasa I guess. Edited January 12, 2009 by Daninku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) EDIT: What if there is something which is not found by YUM... like Picasa I guess. Those are OK to install manually. But from what I can see the Google Picasa package available for donwload is not native to Linux, it runs on top of WINE. The same result can be obtained by installing WINE and downloading the Picasa .exe installer file... EDIT: There's a yum google repo: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/testrepo.html Edited January 12, 2009 by Lechio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 What's this? http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/yum.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 What's this?http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/yum.html That's the google yum repo. Allows to install software directly from there using yum. Configure yum like it is explained there to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 The problem is when I did that it was going to install the 32bit version. Can't really understand how to do the edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Here's the complete process using the terminal: Get the google Signing Key and import it: cd ~ su wget https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub rpm --import linux_signing_key.pub Create the google yum repo file: cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ touch google.repo Edit the google yum repo file: nano /etc/yum.repos.d/google.repo and copy>paste the following to the file opened in the terminal: [google64] name=Google - x86_64 baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/x86_64 enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 Press CTRL+X to save the file and exit from nano. Finally install picasa: yum install picasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 [root@localhost Daniel]# rpm --import linux_signing_key.pub error: linux_signing_key.pub: import failed. stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Do you have the "linux_signing_key.pub" file in that directory? The command "ls" lists what files you have in that directory. You can even import it directly from the web: rpm --import https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'm so jelaous @Daninku, Fedora is the 4th distro I tried which doesn't work with my wireless :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'm sorry for that Symod. Did you ask in any of their (distros used) official forums if any? I'm not using a wireless connection for the PC and I think the connection is way better than in Windows in terms of speed... I think. @Lechio... isn't cd change directory? So... change to which directory? I'm just trying to understand the code instead of copying and pasting. [root@localhost Daniel]# wget https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub --2009-01-13 10:16:19-- https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub Resolving dl-ssl.google.com... 72.14.221.136, 72.14.221.91, 72.14.221.190, ... Connecting to dl-ssl.google.com|72.14.221.136|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1745 (1.7K) [text/plain] Saving to: `linux_signing_key.pub.3' 100%[======================================>] 1,745 --.-K/s in 0s 2009-01-13 10:16:19 (31.2 MB/s) - `linux_signing_key.pub.3' saved [1745/1745] [root@localhost Daniel]# rpm --import linux_signing_key.pub error: linux_signing_key.pub: import failed. [root@localhost Daniel]# ls Desktop google-repo-setup.sh linux_signing_key.pub.2 Pictures Videos Documents linux_signing_key.pub linux_signing_key.pub.3 Public Download linux_signing_key.pub.1 Music Templates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 isn't cd change directory? So... change to which directory? I'm just trying to understand the code instead of copying and pasting. "cd" with no arguments takes you to your home dir. Also, "~" is an alias for your home directory, so both "cd" and "cd ~" will take you to /home/youruser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Oh ok. I'm confusing it with the 'cd' of DOS then. Thanks ichi :) nice avatar hehe What do you think is wrong? Looks like I've downloaded the key 3 or 4 times, but then something goes wrong when importing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 It worked here, check that the file is ok just in case: # md5sum linux_signing_key.pub You should get this: b5ea17f4838a77bb6f7bb83eff7f78f7 linux_signing_key.pub Or try what Lechio suggested and import the key directly from the web: rpm --import https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Still unable to import: [Daniel@localhost ~]$ md5sum linux_signing_key.pub b5ea17f4838a77bb6f7bb83eff7f78f7 linux_signing_key.pub [Daniel@localhost ~]$ cd ~ [Daniel@localhost ~]$ su Password: [root@localhost Daniel]# rpm --import https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub error: https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub: import failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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