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hmmm... I've no idea.

[root@localhost Daniel]# rpm --rebuilddb
[root@localhost Daniel]# rpm --import https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub
error: https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub: import failed.
[root@localhost Daniel]# wget https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub
--2009-01-13 13:27:45--  https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub
Resolving dl-ssl.google.com... 72.14.221.136, 72.14.221.93, 72.14.221.190, ...
Connecting to dl-ssl.google.com|72.14.221.136|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1745 (1.7K) [text/plain]
Saving to: `linux_signing_key.pub.4'

100%[======================================>] 1,745	   --.-K/s   in 0s	  

2009-01-13 13:27:45 (25.6 MB/s) - `linux_signing_key.pub.4' saved [1745/1745]

[root@localhost Daniel]# ls
Desktop				linux_signing_key.pub.1  Pictures
Documents			  linux_signing_key.pub.2  Public
Download			   linux_signing_key.pub.3  Templates
google-repo-setup.sh   linux_signing_key.pub.4  Videos
linux_signing_key.pub  Music

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Just tried it on Berry Linux (Fedora based Live CD) and has no problem importing the key.

You could ignore that and install the packages, I believe it warns about the missing key but install the rpms anyway.

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Yup, posted at the same time lol

So rpm can't be installed with yum? Still have to understand the difference between those packages which update themselves and those which do not. Speaking of updates, why is firefox 'check for updates' option greyed out?

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Ok, let provide some explaination:

On Linux, 95% of stuff are open source, and the old way to install stuff is to get the source code and compile it yourself. But most high level software depend on many other to work (because open source dev hate spending their free time to write the same code that someone else did write). So just to get an application, it was long, painfull and relativelly hard. After that, mostly because computer were slow, people started to provide binary (precompiled) package, but the dependency bloblem got even worst because the user had little or no way of knowing what other package to install to get the first one working. So in the late 90s, distribution created package management system. Those manager were downloading dependencies for you and installed them for you. Many did appear, like Debian apt, a manager for .deb binary package, portage, a package manager that compile source code itself (more optimisation) and few other. In 2004, red hat created their own package management system called YUM to manager .rpm (red hat package tar ball). Rpm were "managed" since a lot of time, but they did not provide yet a way to easilly download them, track update and manage dependency. You can see yum as a layer over the RPM package manager to make your life easier. But just installing an rpm is fine and the system will be aware of it but you will have no update.

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Yup, posted at the same time lol

So rpm can't be installed with yum? Still have to understand the difference between those packages which update themselves and those which do not. Speaking of updates, why is firefox 'check for updates' option greyed out?

Yes they can, and it's the best way to install software.

Packages that "update themselves" are installed using the package manager, and come in the form of rpm.

Packages that do not "update themselves" are the ones that you compile from source, normally come in the form of a compressed file (.tar.gz mainly). Those are compiled and installed by you manually, the package manager has no way of knowing that those are installed.

You update firefox using the package manager.

EDIT: Elv13 provided a better explanation on that subject.

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That's better :p

So now there is no way Picasa would update on it's own? I will have to update it manually... since the 'check for updates' button is also greyed out.

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Ok, let provide some explaination:

On Linux, 95% of stuff are open source, and the old way to install stuff is to get the source code and compile it yourself. But most high level software depend on many other to work (because open source dev hate spending their free time to write the same code that someone else did write). So just to get an application, it was long, painfull and relativelly hard. After that, mostly because computer were slow, people started to provide binary (precompiled) package, but the dependency bloblem got even worst because the user had little or no way of knowing what other package to install to get the first one working. So in the late 90s, distribution created package management system. Those manager were downloading dependencies for you and installed them for you. Many did appear, like Debian apt, a manager for .deb binary package, portage, a package manager that compile source code itself (more optimisation) and few other. In 2004, red hat created their own package management system called YUM to manager .rpm (red hat package tar ball). Rpm were "managed" since a lot of time, but they did not provide yet a way to easilly download them, track update and manage dependency. You can see yum as a layer over the RPM package manager to make your life easier. But just installing an rpm is fine and the system will be aware of it but you will have no update.

Thanks for posting this, you just answered a few things I was wondering about myself.

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So now there is no way Picasa would update on it's own? I will have to update it manually... since the 'check for updates' button is also greyed out.

If you have already configured the yum repos file, like it is explained in the previous page you will be able to update it.

What 'check for updates' button? You don't update the software using those options in the software itself, but with the package manager.

It's not by installing software using yum that you learn how to do things using the terminal.

Really do yourself a favor and install a GUI package manager: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#installsoftware

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Thanks mate I will take a look at these tomorrow :)

I'm going to sleep now, but in the meantime... in Windows I had a RAID1 setup (on 2 hdds obviously). Linux is not recognizing the RAID, which is an NVIDIA btw.

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It showed up when you were installing:

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It's there, with "not recognizing the RAID" you mean you don't have it mounted?

You have to mount that volume first to be able to access its contents.

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Someone here mentioned Linux Mint 6. I never heard of it but I decided to check it out. It's SICK! Gonna switch to it the next time i'm not lazy to set everything up again.

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Someone here mentioned Linux Mint 6. I never heard of it but I decided to check it out. It's SICK! Gonna switch to it the next time i'm not lazy to set everything up again.

You're welcome Josip :)

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I can access its contents... just not doing the job RAID1 should do. It's not recognizing RAID not the contents. On the desktop I have two hard drives instead of 1.

It showed up when you were installing:

It's there, with "not recognizing the RAID" you mean you don't have it mounted?

You have to mount that volume first to be able to access its contents.

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I just removed dust from my RHCE (RedHat certified engeneer) book and checked whats wrong. Look like you have execute a command simillar to this one

sudo mdadm -C /dev/md0 --chunk=64 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd{a,b}1

But watch out, I never did it myself (I am programmer, I rarelly do (professional) system instalation these day, and these system are mostly desktop and non mission-critical server, so no raid and not too much selinux work). I don't know if it will affect the content of the drive, but it will setup the software raid. You will have to change {a,b} to your real device. You can use a partition manager to see witch one is part of the raid. {a,b} are the 2 first drive. But please google this or wait until someone who know what he is doing better than me answer you.

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