Mango Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Does anyone happen to know the full alphabetical order of characters in windows.... for example does $ come before ! and so on. I basically want to rename a folder which puts it to the end of the list alphabetically. I know how to put it at the top with a bracket or a ! symbol, but don't know of any symbol to make it go to the bottom. Unfortunatly the folder name starts with an O and it puts it in the middle. I can put a z at the front but i'm wondering if there is a less crappy - more professional looking character which puts the folder at the end of the non-alpha characters order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 It will be sorted by ASCII code. There is a list of them here. So in your case ! would come before $ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Hmmm.... well according to the chart, the symbols { and ~ should be greater than all letters but windows still puts these before letters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Hmm you're right! I thought it would've been ASCII...obviously not :p I'll have a look on Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadgeek9 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Windows probably uses Unicode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilliant naoki Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Windows actually does funny stuff with filenames. For example, it will put "10abc" before "100abc", although "0" comes before "a". Because of this, I'd say they don't really follow any standard rule, so you'll probably have to play around with it yourself. Personally, if I want something to float at the top, I like to put parentheses around the file or folder name. Not sure about bottom... I'm pretty sure letters come last; if I were to guess, I'd say you're out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Good guess. But im still waiting on Mr Vizion to give me the miracle answer. It will be his 1000th post, make it a good one champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Xinok Subscriber² Posted January 15, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 15, 2009 Windows uses a more intelligent sort. I tried different characters, unfortunately I don't think anything comes after Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Good guess. But im still waiting on Mr Vizion to give me the miracle answer. It will be his 1000th post, make it a good one champ. Haha sorry to disappoint. I did look on Google but I couldn't find anything on how windows orders filenames within folders. I'm sure someone on Neowin must know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted January 16, 2009 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well of course it puts 10 before 100, 10 is less than 100 :p And the alphabet only contains the characters a-z, everything else is sorted by it's code point, then it's a numeric comparison (i.e. 65 is less than 72) I'm fairly certain it values numbers, then letters, then punctuation. No idea how it interacts with Unicode, but it'd probably just treat it as lots of punctuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCurc Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I was searching the same thing on the Internet, when I found your post. I just register to give you an answer, because I think I have found a character that will sort after Z : Use Unicode U-017F The look is not very esthaetics, but it works on my Vista machine... I found it by chance by selecting / guessing in the Windows character map ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I'm not sure whether he's still looking for an answer but thanks for posting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCurc Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Yeah I know, it's for the community... :blush: cia? cia?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I'm sure its a problem quite a few people have had. At least there's a solution out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutzzz Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I'm a little late to the party, but CaptnCurc's solution doesn't work for me. U+017F is sorted as an S. I'm using Windows 7, so perhaps Microsoft tweaked their sort algorithm for this release. Using the same trial-and-error technique, I found an unobtrusive character that sorts after Z. --> ꞈ It's U+A788. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceelypa Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I realize I'm a few years late, but I just found that a macron — ε — comes after z when sorted (in Excel anyway, and Dynamics AX). To type a macron, it's Alt + 238. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted September 23, 2015 Veteran Share Posted September 23, 2015 Dead Thread - Locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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