.KICK Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Sony Computer Entertainment's ever-confident chairman Kazuo Hirai has said that the Xbox 360 "lacks longevity", and remains certain PS3 will finish on top. Hirai said that, regardless of install base, or who sold more and when, "I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry." He told Official PlayStation Magazine: "It's difficult to talk about Nintendo because we don't look at their console as being competitors. They're a different world and we operate in our world - that's kind of the way I look at things. "And with the Xbox - again, I can't come up with one word to fit. You need a word that describes something that lacks longevity," said Hirai. "Last time I checked, they've never had a console that's been on the market for more than four or five years and we've committed to a ten year life cycle, so you do the math. "And unless things go really bad," added Hirai, "there's no way that at the end of a life cycle our competition is going to have a higher install base." Source - CVG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danisflying527 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 RIIIIDDGGGEEE RAAAACCCEERRRR!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted January 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 20, 2009 Sony blindly claims to be the leader while baselessly slags off the opposition. Sums up the last 3 years really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danisflying527 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 You do know that you can attack the giant enemy Crab for MASSIVE DAMAGE right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 20, 2009 He told Official PlayStation Magazine Yeah, I'd expect him to say "We're going to fail, Xbox is better and it will last longer" in an interview OPM conducts/asks questions. However have fun taking another PR/CEO having confidence in his console comment to heart everyone, and all the best with the arguing like every other topic mirroring this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yeah, I'd expect him to say "We're going to fail, Xbox is better and it will last longer" in an interview OPM conducts/asks questions.However have fun taking another PR/CEO having confidence in his console comment to heart everyone, and all the best with the arguing like every other topic mirroring this one. Yes but he should've thought about what he was saying to be honest. To make such a bold claim when we all know how the PS3 is really doing is a bit silly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danisflying527 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Wow... this guy is really up himself anyway Xbox 360 lacks longetivity? What with its ever popular and growing live service and its huge range of multiplatform and exclusive titles. Kazuo Hirai should really grow some balls I can never look at him and keep a straight face anymore after the RIIDDDGGE RAACCEER at E3. Cracks me up everytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Last time I checked, they've never had a console that's been on the market for more than four or five years and we've committed to a ten year life cycle, so you do the math. They seem to forget their own roots. They were the new kid in town and still managed to market a console for such a long span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM2000 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 They seem to forget their own roots. They were the new kid in town and still managed to market a console for such a long span. Agreed. They haven't been in the market as long as sony yet. The 360 is looking good for being around for a few years yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlibbyFlobby Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Sony blindly claims to be the leader while baselessly slags off the opposition. In fairness Microsoft are pretty guilty of this too. It's only Nintendo that keep their mouth shut. But then their too busy eating caviare and swimming in pools of ?50's.;)) Edited January 20, 2009 by ziadoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really think everyone is going to be forced to come out with a new console by 2010-2011 time frame. All consoles especially nintendo will look dated by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He has a point. He's talking about the Blu-Ray drive. 25/50GB of storage compared to the 360's measly 9.4GB. I'm a massive 360 gamer, but I have to agree that the DVD drive is the 360's achilles heel. Games are getting bigger and better-looking, and eventually, they won't be able to fit on a dual-layer DVD. Take Forza Motorsport 3, for example. over 400 cars and over 100 tracks, and it's so big, they have to stick it on two discs. I think Microsoft should have tried to use the HD-DVD drive for future games. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it could have prolonged the 360's life for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He has a point. He's talking about the Blu-Ray drive. 25/50GB of storage compared to the 360's measly 9.4GB. I'm a massive 360 gamer, but I have to agree that the DVD drive is the 360's achilles heel. Games are getting bigger and better-looking, and eventually, they won't be able to fit on a dual-layer DVD. Take Forza Motorsport 3, for example. over 400 cars and over 100 tracks, and it's so big, they have to stick it on two discs. I think Microsoft should have tried to use the HD-DVD drive for future games. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it could have prolonged the 360's life for a few years. On the other hand, 90% of games have to installed on the hard drive on the PS3. It's size vs speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Fair point, Ricardo. It is pretty much 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) We already have games on the PC that are just not possible on the consoles because of ram limitations on all consoles. Blue-Ray is nice but Most people are not really interested in blue-ray. Edited January 20, 2009 by Melfster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traxor Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Jordan, I completely agree with your comment, there are definite flaws with either having multiple disks for a console and it's a shame that Microsoft can't really "recoupe" from their issues with having small disks that won't fit massive textures etc on. Compression has gotten really really good, but it's the main problem of the console. Even if they did bring out something to do with blu-ray, it'd be a really specific market, because not everyone would have the new blu-ray drives, so they wouldn't be able to sell the blu-ray games to that massive market, and would still be in square one. Without compensating all Xbox 360 owners who have a legitimate console that hasn't been flashed and is registered, they're never going to be able to do anything. Until they bring out a new console of course, which I doubt we'll see in the next three years, however I'll expect an announcement or a show case within the next 1 - 2 years, now that the Xbox has been out for nearly 4 years. I know what Ricardo means too, about the necessity to install, you can't read that much data off a disk at such a high speed. Maybe their decision is for the best, I mean many users on this forum are very very talented and intelligent people, but compared to the developers of the Xbox 360 Console, they know very little. Their decisions to not have a blu-ray drive or another drive that would allow lots of data was a sound one, with many cost-benefit analysi performed in order to make the final decision. Nobody here has a single clue about what Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo are thinking or do within their own company. I'm also sure that they're aware of their own problems and are trying to resolve them the best that they can. Just for the record, in case you didn't get it by my avatar... I'm a 360 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Yes but he should've thought about what he was saying to be honest. To make such a bold claim when we all know how the PS3 is really doing is a bit silly! They are doing nothing different than half the people in this topic in response to their favourite console. Hirai's favourite console is the PS3 you know :rofl: "My console will finish 1st", "My console is better", "My console has the most longevity". It's all idle speculation, absolutely no-one knows how things will end right now. These guys are the CEOs/heads in charge of the divisions and hardware, do you REALLY expect them to be saying anything else a few years into the race? They know there's lots of time left, they know things may well change, and speculation like this right now can't be claimed "true" or "false"... It's all spinning, get used to it, happens all the time. It's also very likely OPM/Journalists are asking questions like "How do you see yourself finishing compared to your competitors?" They know these questions get them the answers they can make articles out of, then watch their website light up with "discussion". And anyway what are they suppose to say in response to questions like that? "Uh, not very good, I think we might be beaten?". I'm sure the fans, shareholders, devs and everyone else will love that. MS done this as well in case you weren't aware KICK... E3 08: ‘Xbox will beat PS3’Don Mattrick throws down the gauntlet at Microsoft’s E3 Media Briefing Microsoft boss Don Mattrick has told the global games media that Xbox 360 will sell more consoles than PlayStation 3 – and that gaming is now the leading form of entertainment. “When it comes to hardware, we’re in fantastic shape. According to NPD data, we have the largest installed base in the US, and we are at least five million ahead of PS3. Software sales reached $2.7 billion over last year. Third-party games revenue on Xbox 360 outpaced the Wii and PS3 combined in the last twelve months.” “Xbox 360 will sell more worldwide than PS3. We will do this by having a selection of consoles with prices for everyone.” Elaborating on the theme of gaming taking over as the entertainment form of choice, he added: “We are ready for our biggest year ever. Consumers have spent 48 billion dollars on games worldwide – that’s bigger than DVD, and bigger than the box office. Games are now leading entertainment form." Speaking after demos of Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5 and Gears of War 2, the platform holder also unveiled its brand new Wii-style user interface and Avatar system – check back on MCVUK.com later for the full details. Source: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31181/E3-08-Xbox-will-beat-PS3 And FTR, you all know my views on this console generation, I've openly posted them lots of times. Every console will have longevity, and every console will still be selling when it's big brother is released. That's all you guys should care about, not arguing over corporate gloating. Edited January 20, 2009 by Audioboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How are those 2 articles even remotely similar? Hirai makes a direct attack at the competance of the 360, whilst Mattrick just states that worldwide 360 sales will top PS3 sales. There's no belittling of Sony hardware anywhere in that article :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 They are doing nothing different than half the people in this topic in response to their favourite console. Hirai's favourite console is the PS3 you know :rofl:"My console will finish 1st", "My console is better", "My console has the most longevity". It's all idle speculation, absolutely no-one knows how things will end right now. These guys are the CEOs/heads in charge of the divisions and hardware, do you REALLY expect them to be saying anything else a few years into the race? They know there's lots of time left, they know things may well change, and speculation like this right now can't be claimed "true" or "false"... It's all spinning, get used to it, happens all the time. It's also very likely OPM/Journalists are asking questions like "How do you see yourself finishing compared to your competitors?" They know these questions get them the answers they can make articles out of, then watch their website light up with "discussion". And anyway what are they suppose to say in response to questions like that? "Uh, not very good, I think we might be beaten?". I'm sure the fans, shareholders, devs and everyone else will love that. MS done this as well in case you weren't aware KICK... Source: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31181/E3-08-Xbox-will-beat-PS3 And FTR, you all know my views on this console generation, I've openly posted them lots of times. Every console will have longevity, and every console will still be selling when it's big brother is released. That's all you guys should care about, not arguing over corporate gloating. But did you read what you posted? MS never says anything negative about the PS3... instead he focuses on why MS will win... Hirai chose to just say what xbox lacks... anyway.. Im with you on the whole none of this stuff that these people say matter... but you are posting the wrong article... im sure there are quotes out there ms bashing the ps3 .. but this isnt one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) I posted that to show how these giants makes elaborate claims about where they're going fairly often. If you want me to start digging up MS being negative about Sony I can, but I won't, because everyone here knows they're both guilty of it. Quite frankly this image Represents post 1. However the head on that image can be replaced by MS CEO's, Nintendos, and even gamers. Remember how everyone said the Wii wouldn't sell anything because it was a "gamecube with gimmicky motion controls?". Remember how after a year everyone was saying it would fizzle out to save the "embarrassing" claims they made pre-launch? My point? As long as a generation is young, people everywhere run around making sweeping statements about success, figures, popularity. They all do it because they can, everyone of us knows there's a good 5-7+ years left in this generation, that's a lot of time. So someone will say PS3/360/Wii will win, they'll be questioned left right and center, and the answer will be a combination of favourable pros, coupled with them saying "but there's 5-7 years left, anything can happen, so you can't tell me I'm wrong". Time does prove these broad claims - 2 years passed now, the Wii has made those people eat crow. In another 2 years will some more sweeping statements by people be made to eat crow? Maybe those saying the Wii has now "won" and it can't be over taken? Quite possibly, anything can happen. The corporate giants do it more as "part of their job" in comparison to forum lackys telling everyone how they think things will end. I'm sorry, but as I said, no company CEO is going to answer a question from the media about success without spinning, or saying the future will be favourable. Dumbed down for the same reasons forum users say those 5-7 years can involve anything, but on a serious level because they're being paid to lead a successful campaign against their competition. But it's all the same, wild speculation based on favourable facts - Sony will say, we're the only provider to have previously done 10 year plans, we'll do it again. MS will say we're currently ahead of Sony, and Nintendo will just say "casual". Anything they can latch onto to set up a favourable event, coupled with the uncertainty involving a time period as long as 5-7+ years. However, nothing is in concrete right now, everyone really knows that (while they claim against it at the same time) and I find it interesting entering PR topics to try and understand why people get as uptight as they do... We're in the most competitive generation we've ever been in - All 3 want to be the first, all 3 think they can be the first, but only time actually knows who will end up leading the market. Until then enjoy everyone telling us why the think they will be first, they'll be a lot more of it until the generation is mature and is less likely to change. Edited January 20, 2009 by Audioboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted January 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted January 20, 2009 Seriously Peter, why did you even bother posting this crap? :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazuyette Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'll just leave this here : RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGGE RACEEEEER ! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratch42069 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Speaking just on the article, I disagree heavily. Console life is usually what, 3-5 years? I'd say 360 has satisfied that and the PS3 is just entering into it's 2nd year of life. Now back to the longevity, if a Blu-Ray player was slapped into a 360, would it have a greater lifespan? They are equal hardware-wise so the only deciding factor would be Blu-Ray it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Great Walls of Text :| have been putting me out of GH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I don't know how he can say that. Microsoft just guaranteed another few years of 360 life through NXE, basically re-releasing the console without making us pay for new hardware. The 360 will last just as long as the PS3 will. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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