Grand Theft Auto V Announced?


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Definitely not, iirc the contract said if they release it on another platform they owe back all the money MS spent. Take Two really aren't in that position ;)

I have the leaked transcript saved somewhere, I'll post it later so PS3 fans can cry some moar if need be :p

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And Bioshock was never coming to the PS3 either ;) I'd hardly think Aaron Greenberg is going to say yeah it's a timed exclusive.

You're probably right anyway, roll on GTA5 then it is! :p

I'd also like to add PC fans are probably as "annoyed" as PS3 fans, they don't get the DLC either.

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Were there any money exchanged to keep it timed exclusive?

I couldn't possibly tell you!

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Then how is it a relevant comparison

Just so all you guys would get your pants in a twist over exclusivity :laugh:

Only time will tell, no one knows **** in the world of 3rd party exclusives. Companies like Take 2 and Team Ninja deny multiplatform for a year then all of a sudden bam, games hitting other platforms. And vice-versa for other platforms.

Invest your money in 1st party instead of cockblocking DLC, that's how you get 100% exclusive titles (Y)

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And Bioshock was never coming to the PS3 either ;) I'd hardly think Aaron Greenberg is going to say yeah it's a timed exclusive.

You're probably right anyway, roll on GTA5 then it is! :p

I'd also like to add PC fans are probably as "annoyed" as PS3 fans, they don't get the DLC either.

Not annoyed as much as PS3 fans because they get the modding scene ;)

Bioshock was never really exclusive, was just made for the platform then decided to bring to PS3 later. I think?

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Just so all you guys would get your pants in a twist over exclusivity :laugh:

Only time will tell, no one knows **** in the world of 3rd party exclusives. Companies like Take 2 and Team Ninja deny multiplatform for a year then all of a sudden bam, games hitting other platforms.

Invest your money in 1st party instead of cockblocking DLC, that's how you get 100% exclusive titles (Y)

Funny thing is, you're the one getting your pants in a twist around here. PS3 won't see the DLC, end of story.

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Bioshock was never really exclusive, was just made for the platform then decided to bring to PS3 later. I think?
Levine: There Will Be No PS3 BioShock

Joystiq got a chance to talk to 2K Boston's Ken Levine about the various problems surrounding the BioShock launch that we've been documenting exhaustively over the past several days. In the process of admitting that screw ups were made, he also neatly nullified a rumor that had been spreading around about a possible port of BioShock to the PS3.

Then there is the lingering question of the rumored PS3 version of BioShock found in the PC code. Levine responds quite clearly, "I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."

Yep, exactly as I thought. Old code left in from before the game went exclusive. Sorry PlayStation Universe!

Source: http://kotaku.com/gaming/denied/levine-the...hock-293304.php

Timed exclusive clearly, you don't say that if you're working on porting it...

Funny thing is, you're the one getting your pants in a twist around here. PS3 won't see the DLC, end of story.

Yeah I am, I hate exclusive DLC, it serves no purpose and is degrading to your loyal fans. Game changing DLC anyway, not crap like exclusive skins or costumes.

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I still don't see why this is brought up in comparison to GTA IV DLC, it's not even the same - Nobody paid 50 Million to keep Bioshock exclusive, plus the DLC is just that, DLC ... Not an entire game.

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Yeah I am, I hate exclusive DLC, it serves no purpose and is degrading to your loyal fans. Game changing DLC anyway, not crap like exclusive skins or costumes.

But it does serve a purpose and that is sales! That's why MS paid so much for it. Most people with that knowledge when buying the game, if they owned both platforms would have gone the smart route and bought it on 360 rather than PS3. Smart move by Microsoft if you ask me, and not a silly one by Rockstar either. As they still sell as many copies just probably more on the 360.

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Who says they were working on the port in 2007? A lot could have changed in the following months, port jobs doesn't exactly take years to do.

Plus, I still don't see why this is brought up in comparison to GTA IV DLC, it's not even the same - Nobody paid 50 Million to keep Bioshock exclusive, plus the DLC is just that, DLC ... Not an entire game.

Yeah, the exclusivity contract ran out ;)

I just mentioned it to show how fragile the world of multiplatform exclusivity is. Keep your head in place, for better or worse, worse I'd say personally, it most likely will remain exclusive if 50 million was waved around.

And you helped make my point, it's just DLC, not even a game, but MS for some reason thought chucking 50 million to cockblock it was a sound investment.

But it does serve a purpose and that is sales! That's why MS paid so much for it. Most people with that knowledge when buying the game, if they owned both platforms would have gone the smart route and bought it on 360 rather than PS3. Smart move by Microsoft if you ask me, and not a silly one by Rockstar either. As they still sell as many copies just probably more on the 360.

The sales were pretty even actually, and the month GTA4 hit both the PS3 and 360 sold sub 200k in America (hardware units that is).

Both Sony and MS were championing about how GTA4 would be the game to win the console war, it clearly wasn't.

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But it does serve a purpose and that is sales! That's why MS paid so much for it. Most people with that knowledge when buying the game, if they owned both platforms would have gone the smart route and bought it on 360 rather than PS3. Smart move by Microsoft if you ask me, and not a silly one by Rockstar either. As they still sell as many copies just probably more on the 360.

Exactly, not like before where entire games would go platform exclusive, that's about fifty times worse. Now buyers just had an extra incentive to get the 360 version with the additional content down the line, it's not like this DLC came out of the blue anyway, it was announced way before the game was ever released - So if you really wanted it, you bought the 360 version.

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I'm actually excited for Red Dead Redemption. Just me?

Nope, me too.

Spent ages playing Red Dead Revolver :)

I doubt they will even announce the new GTA until after the next dlc is released.

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And you helped make my point, it's just DLC, not even a game, but MS for some reason thought chucking 50 million to cockblock it was a sound investment.

Because Grand Theft Auto has become a Playstation household name, Microsoft knew that - They needed an ace up their sleeve in order to entice users, even I was contemplating getting the Playstation version back in the day, I actually had the PS3 version on pre-order, just because GTA for me was a synonym for Playstation.

The sales were pretty even actually, and the month GTA4 hit both the PS3 and 360 sold sub 200k in America (hardware units that is).

Both Sony and MS were championing about how GTA4 would be the game to win the console war, it clearly wasn't.

As to my point above, I think most people know the game as a Playstation title and do we know how the sales would have turned out without the possibility of 360 DLC? No, may not have changed much, could have added quite a lot of buyers to the 360 camp instead. Everything is speculating, exclusive DLC was a brilliant idea from Microsoft's side, definitely made me switch.

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Brilliant idea to get more sales, crap idea for the consumer.

I'm the consumer, I don't care about sales statistics, I care about games.

That's the point of view I'm making it from. Any moneyhatting and waving of cash is good for the company, but I don't own shares nor do I "play" sales. I play the games, and IMO when companies are exclusively fighting over DLC, it's getting petty.

Not everyone can afford all the consoles, multiplatform games are supposed to be the saviour of the one console owner, not the "complication". What happens if we start getting big titles with exclusive DLC on both camps? Pain in the ass for someone who only owns one console... or a PC. Not everyone has the option of "just buy it on 360 instead". And some of us like me pre-order the PS3 version months back with Shop-To, forget about it, then get emailed it's on the way :laugh: So far MS have been doing it with Fallout 3 and GTA4, I hope Sony doesn't as it will **** off 360 owners. Spend your cash on 1st party titles or studios please MS/Sony/Nintendo (Y) Or fund a full title as an exclusive, not parts of it.

I could live with it being yet another timed exclusive contract, but the waving of 50 million is sure to no doubt end that. What are Lost and Damned sales anyway, GTA4 sold 13 million, what's the DLC at?

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If all you really cared about was playing the game and DLC you'd have bought the 360 version instead of whining about it not being on the PS3. You were right in saying all you should care about is yourself, the consumer. Not the millions of PS3 GTA fans who are left without it. They are none of your concern until you start taking sides in a console war and scream and kick when your favourite doesn't "win" or have the same.

As for sales, MS/R* haven't released the info.

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No offence but you seem to change a lot between the "consumer" and "company" view point, some times you shoot all that logic at us why companies do this and that and in a blink of an eye you just changed to the other side of the fence. Happens even in situations where the consumers is put in a bad position ... Oh well, nevermind.

You don't need DLC to enjoy the game, it's not critically important you get a hold of it. Yeah 360 users won't experience exclusive games on the PS3 and its DLC, PS3 users won't experience 360 exclusive games and its DLC, now we just added another point, they won't experience exclusive DLC.

Exclusivity deals have been going on for a long time, now we can just add the latest fad of this and upcoming generations, DLC - It's not surprising nor something you should get your panties in a bunch over.

And you have both platforms, you had the possibility of getting the 360 version if you wanted the DLC, you didn't - Own fault. What other people have and don't have ... Meh?

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If all you really cared about was playing the game and DLC you'd have bought the 360 version instead of whining about it not being on the PS3. You were right in saying all you should care about is yourself, the consumer. Not the millions of PS3 GTA fans who are left without it. They are none of your concern until you start taking sides in a console war and scream and kick when your favourite doesn't "win" or have the same.

As for sales, MS/R* haven't released the info.

I'm entitled to whine about the idea of exclusive DLC regardless of what platform I buy the game on. Just like I constantly whine about DLC pricing and map packs. DLC is just a touchy subject for me :laugh:

I think it's a dick move, end of, even if I could be playing it right now.

Taking no sides in a console war, I'm talking about exclusive DLC, not the consoles. Although as usual everyone and their dog screams console war at any given chance or perceived threat of their console. Take note, I'm not even discussing the actual 360, just the business politics surrounding exclusivity, money and DLC.

360 only owners would do the same if Sony were waving cash about, and rightly so from my opinion. We've finally got to a generation where multiplatform games are ripe (which is much better for the gaming scene), console owners can all share many experiences cross platform, and we're now at the next hitch.

If you guys don't agree with me, fine, let's just leave it at that :)

As for sales you're right, none released. Analysts say around 1 million, but the term analyst causes heart attacks around here :laugh: - http://kotaku.com/5165818/analyst-lost-and...new-gta-in-2010

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Oh well, it beats buying up companies and having them develop exclusive games for your console and leaving an entire console userbase out in the cold ....

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Oh well, it beats buying up companies and having them develop exclusive games for your console and leaving an entire console userbase out in the cold ....

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