Antarctic ice is growing, not melting away

[Denholm]

http://bit.ly/1a2gkR

ICE is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.

The results of ice-core drilling and sea ice monitoring indicate there is no large-scale melting of ice over most of Antarctica, although experts are concerned at ice losses on the continent's western coast.

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East Antarctica is four times the size of west Antarctica and parts of it are cooling. The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research report prepared for last week's meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown "significant cooling in recent decades".

[maplecookie Veteran]

moved here

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

thanks Denholm

the "global warming fad" needs to die now.

[jonhapimp]

and i hate the people who have been brainwashed into the end all man made global warming bs Al Gore made, they still won't believe me when i tell them

[Simon Veteran]

If it's true, then good, but it doesn't dismiss global warming. That remains a major issue.

There is no Al Gore conspiracy. There's just science to prove that global warming is happening. But the discussion of global warming goes in a different thread in real world issues ;)

[jonhapimp]

If it's true, then good, but it doesn't dismiss global warming. That remains a major issue.

There is no Al Gore conspiracy. There's just science to prove that global warming is happening. But the discussion of global warming goes in a different thread in real world issues ;)

the conspiracy about al gore is him making people believe it's man made, human's fault

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

If it's true, then good, but it doesn't dismiss global warming. That remains a major issue.

There is no Al Gore conspiracy. There's just science to prove that global warming is happening. But the discussion of global warming goes in a different thread in real world issues ;)

for every piece of science to "prove" global warming, there's another piece that disproves it.

i remember when this global warming fad started like 10yrs ago. They were saying the same thing theyre saying today. guess what. nothing's changed. the water levels arent rising. the earth's temperature isnt climbing. crops arent dying. honestly, people just feel the need to have some earth drama in their life. remember the "landfill fad?" remember when recycling was the "in" thing? remember when saving manitees and whales was a big deal? people move on to the next "important" thing. in the end, it's a fad.

there's more validity to the proof that this "global warming" issue relates to sun cycles, which are naturally occuring events through the existence of our solar system.

and it's naive to think that humans can cause "sudden earth death syndrome" in <100yrs when the earth itself is a billion years old.

[sweetsam]

Nevertheless it certainly helps to behave responsibly towards the environment we live in.

[spacer]

the conspiracy about al gore is him making people believe it's man made, human's fault

The heating and cooling of Earth's climate is most likely natural in origin. However, the speed in which it's occurring now is man-made.

[thealexweb]

Nevertheless it certainly helps to behave responsibly towards the environment we live in.

Tell that to the Americans with their gas guzzlers.

[leesmithg]

thanks Denholm

the "global warming fad" needs to die now.

It was all a scam created by the luv buddies of Al Gore.

It was propaganda spread around the Western World to tax people and sell technology.

Climate change are like the seasons in a year, 5 years it could be warm, 5 years mild, 5 years really hot, 5 years really cold, it's nature.

[Klownicle]

If you read the article, it still says the west side is melting more then normal, but the east side is freezeing more then avg. Its still a climate change or sorts. You could say its when people look at only one side of the story.

The "Global Warming" idea could very well cause things like this. But nature finds a way to fix alot of things. Sometimes we might not like that idea ;).

[sundayx Veteran]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1698...al-warming.html

[Growled Member]

If you read the article, it still says the west side is melting more then normal, but the east side is freezeing more then avg.

I think I read somewhere that scientists believe that volcanic activity is causing the west side to melt more.

[Marshalus Veteran]

How can anyone look at the crap we're putting into the sky and not think we're doing something wrong?

[Dick Montage]

How can anyone look at the crap we're putting into the sky and not think we're doing something wrong?

What we are doing is harmful - to us, to other animals and to plant life. No denying that. It's also harmful to the environment for sure - but I think Gore overplays our significance in the grander scheme of things.

[LOC Veteran]

And what about the glaciers in Greenland? And other parts of the world? The Arctic itself shrinking?

I especially find it interesting that people think in 10 years nothing has happened, so Global Warming is bunk. Climate change (on a global stage) doesn't happen like in The Day After Tomorrow you know. Whether or not we as Humans are responsible for the current climate situation is a tough question to ask and answer since we haven't really been here long enough (or kept accurate enough records anyway) to know for sure. But pumping CO2 into the Atmosphere like we do with total disregard, isn't helping anything that's for sure.

There is a special on MSNBC tonight (Sunday) at like 8 PM EST I believe about scientists digging for ice cores in the Artcic and Greenland etc. There are quite a few scientists who believe by 2013 we will go past the "red line" and major changes will start occuring around the globe. Who knows if it will happen, but the truth is, we need to be more mindful of the enviroment.

Keanu Reeves said it perfectly - If the Earth dies, you die. If you die, the Earth survives.

[Solid Knight]

I don't see why it's so hard to go green in the name of efficiency and minimizing pollution. But no, the Earth is going to cook and the sea level is going to rise to impossibly high levels.

The biggest beef I have with the results of global warming is the sea levels rising by huge amounts. There isn't enough ice that isn't already displacing the water to make it go up by more than a few inches at best. The amount of land locked can't even cover an ocean much less the friggin' world.

[AltecXP]

Tell that to the Americans with their gas guzzlers.

*is typing this with his mustang truck and 3 i4 bangers idling in my driveway*

blah blah blah

[ScottKin]

How can anyone look at the crap we're putting into the sky and not think we're doing something wrong?

Hello??

I guess that you missed the memo about air pollution levels over many major cities are actually LESS than they were 10 years ago?

One of the largest contributors to greenhouse gasses is the methane produced by....CATTLE!

Kill A Steer, Save The Planet!

:woot:

--ScottKin

[guru]

Hello??

I guess that you missed the memo about air pollution levels over many major cities are actually LESS than they were 10 years ago?

still doesn't explain what'll happen to the carbon we are putting out there that was locked up before in coal and middle eastern wells

[HawkMan]

Hello??

I guess that you missed the memo about air pollution levels over many major cities are actually LESS than they were 10 years ago?

One of the largest contributors to greenhouse gasses is the methane produced by....CATTLE!

Kill A Steer, Save The Planet!

:woot:

--ScottKin

That's not actually true.

YEs the Cows produce a lot of greenhouse gases, but these gases would be the same without the cattle. the difference is that the biomaterials pass through the cows before being turned to greenhouse gases instead of rotting on the ground.

[seta-san]

i was reading an old national geographic magazine. i think it was may 98 or 99... there was an artical about global warming and it said in the last paragraph that we will know in "ten years" it's already been over ten years and nothing has changed...

they always push pack the date waiting for catastrophe to happen... and they create FUD (Fear, uncertainty, and doubt)

does anyone ever wonder where the modern environmental movement came from?

dating back to the 60s there were a bunch of socialists who generally hated capitalism and as we all know they became more and more extreme. then the vietnam war ended and they didn't have much to talk about anymore... and then also in the early 90s the soviet union collapsed which gave them and their ideology nothing to talk about.... except there was one escape for them and their mindset...

they have been talking for the longest time the evils of private business and industry in particular.. but it was never really an environmental thing. it was always about labor fairness up to that point. they though found a new way to attack industry. they latched on the environmental movement, which at the time was trying to remove real pollution from the environment. over the years these dried up socialists and ex-hippies came of age in mid to late 1990s when people would actually take them seriously and they started their war against industry again with at first the O-ZONE problem. After banning aerosol cans containing CFCs the problem fixed itself in a matter of a couple years. They needed to go somewhere else and with record temperatures at the time global warming was their new best friend. they could attack not only industry for CO2 but also society and the american way of life in general and they never needed a whole lot of proof except a couple years of record temperature while the sun was on an active cycle.

now these nut cases are teaching in our schools and colleges, they are reporting in newscasts and they are running for our politcal offices and actually winning on something completely unproven.

[HawkMan]

The O-zone problem fixed itself in a couple of years ?

that must be why there's still a big effing hole up there, and why they keep track of it and why it's periodically given alerts to wear extra sun protection here and there as the hole occasionally extends down to tourist beaches or other places with strong sun allready. The ozone hole is something we have to live with for at least the foreseeable future, though it's not as bad as feared or it could have been, it's anything but good. and currently we don't (as we may have at some point thought) have a way to fix it.

[seta-san]

The O-zone problem fixed itself in a couple of years ?

that must be why there's still a big effing hole up there, and why they keep track of it and why it's periodically given alerts to wear extra sun protection here and there as the hole occasionally extends down to tourist beaches or other places with strong sun allready. The ozone hole is something we have to live with for at least the foreseeable future, though it's not as bad as feared or it could have been, it's anything but good. and currently we don't (as we may have at some point thought) have a way to fix it.

don't you think it strange that NOBODY talks about it any more? and further more why they don't talk about it...