Udedenkz Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There are only three types of applications that won't run on x64, - Really Really Ancient Applications (I recommend creating a Virtual BOX with Windows 98 SE and running them from there) - Outdated Applications that only have 32-bit drivers to offer. - Outdated Applications made by morons who put in an OS check which prevents you from using it on x64 - even though it would work without any problem. Now for Windows 7, there is fourth reason, (Valid for both 32-bit and 64-bit versions) - Major Change Applicationd Don't Work. - Beta OS, No Support will be given for now. The major reason to upgrade is that an x86_32 OS on a x86_64 compatible Hardware is like buying a sports car to go to Wallmart every weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihmos Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 i am trying to decide if i should go for 64bit over 32bit if i go 64 will the 32 bit programs i use work also will my games work thanks for ya help 64bit is the way to go right now. If you asked me this a year ago i would say stick with 32bit. If you don't have at least 4GB of ram don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colealtdelete Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I use 64-bit because I have 8 Gigs of RAM. Having said that, it works flawlessly. Every app I had installed on my Vista 32-bit setup works perfectly in my 64-bit Win 7. I concur with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentimes Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 32 bit if you intend to run less than 3gig RAM forever, otherwise 64 bit. With RAM so cheap I could see no choice but switch to 64 bit about a year ago. I now have 8gig in my system and it makes a lot of difference. 32 bit windows cannot make use of more than about 3.5 gig (please, please, please don't people start the old 4gig argument up again). Running in 64 bit I have found that all my peripherlas (legacy or otherwise) plus all my games and apps run fine in Windows 7. Add to that the fact that on release they will have an XP virtualization (which can run all your software in XP 32 bit if you want) and I see no reason to run Windows 7 in 32 bit. Intall it and play with it! Best way to find out if it will suit you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Blood Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 64bit is the future. I recommend 64bit if you want more than 3gb of ram. It does uses a little bit more ram than it's 32bit counterpart but that's due to the increased adressesing space that needs to be mapped.Support both software and hardware is so good nowadays that you don't need to worry that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minifig Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 64 bit. You cannot use DX 10 & 11 without 64 bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.F.D.K Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 64 bit.You cannot use DX 10 & 11 without 64 bit. Said Who geeza...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 64 bit.You cannot use DX 10 & 11 without 64 bit. Don't smoke crack and post on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minifig Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Don't smoke crack and post on here. ok ok.. I was wrong. However.. DX 10 and 11 will only work in 32-bit in Crossfire installations quoth AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Quad XFire to be exact and dont forget to get Core i20 128bit Edtion or else your pc is going to breakdown :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ok ok.. I was wrong.However.. DX 10 and 11 will only work in 32-bit in Crossfire installations quoth AMD. Okay, thanx for quoting me then fail to do what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 32 bit if you intend to run less than 3gig RAM forever, otherwise 64 bit. With RAM so cheap I could see no choice but switch to 64 bit about a year ago. I now have 8gig in my system and it makes a lot of difference. 32 bit windows cannot make use of more than about 3.5 gig (please, please, please don't people start the old 4gig argument up again).Running in 64 bit I have found that all my peripherlas (legacy or otherwise) plus all my games and apps run fine in Windows 7. Add to that the fact that on release they will have an XP virtualization (which can run all your software in XP 32 bit if you want) and I see no reason to run Windows 7 in 32 bit. Intall it and play with it! Best way to find out if it will suit you :) I disagree with the first: I would say that if you have the CPU, application and driver support, go 64-bit *regardless*. (Remember, I'm the guy that triple-boots Vista Ultimate 64-bit, 7 RC 64-bit, and Kubuntu Jaunty 64-bit on a Celeron DC E1200 with but one gigabyte of RAM.) Stability is up, performance is identical to or better than 32-bit, and my hardware otherwise does not care. Driver support is the biggest problem most will have; however, if you stick to well-known IHVs and hardware that is two years old or less, the migration should be pretty simple. (I ran into a pair of pleasant surprises, however; both my ATI HDTV Wonder and Logitech Communicate STX violate the two-year rule; both are supported directly by both Vista 64-bit and 7 64-bit.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 can my system handle 64bit? 1.6 intel cleron m 512mb ram 60gb hdd i plan on downloading the rc soon and i want to know if i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgeek Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I have 4GB of ram but in my System Properties it tells me that 3GB is usable. CPU is a C2Q Q6600. Does this support 64bit? On the other hand does a P4 CPU support it too? Been thinking about rebuilding my old system up with P4 in it as a test platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannlich Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Your Q6600 is a 64 bit processor. Your P4 depends on which chip it is. Andrew-DB..............brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrampage Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 thanks again people ... what ill do its when the rc is out on the microsoft site ill download both 64 and 32 bit copys install one at a time and see what one i like better thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Takahashi Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I built and designed my desktop to run on 64 bit, and installed Vista RTM 64 bit ultimate when it came out, and will be doing the same with windows 7. I haven't ran into any problems yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Go with 64bit if your processor can handle it. Security features alone make it worth while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke009 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I have 4GB of ram but in my System Properties it tells me that 3GB is usable. CPU is a C2Q Q6600. Does this support 64bit?On the other hand does a P4 CPU support it too? Been thinking about rebuilding my old system up with P4 in it as a test platform. I recently gave my wife my old machine (Core2 Duo, 4GB DDR2) and took her Gateway w/ a P4 3.0GHz as a test box and loaded Win7 64bit. It works great and I'm just amazed at how easy it is on system resources. Use a tool like CPU-Z to see if your CPU is 64bit compatible. I think you need it to show "EMT64" in the instructions line to reflect 64bit capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 You should be running 64-bit operating systems on new hardware. The only reason you should even bother with 32-bit operating systems in 2009 is if your processor simply can't support 64-bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 can my system handle 64bit?1.6 intel cleron m 512mb ram 60gb hdd i plan on downloading the rc soon and i want to know if i can anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 anybody? no the Celeron Ms don't support 64bit anybody? No your CPU does not support 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Access Denied Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I get to order the new parts in the morning :bounce: Q9650 (quad core 3.0 Ghz, ASUS P5Q with 4GB DDR 1200, nVidia GTX 9800 512MB GDDR3 pci 2.0 fire ready. :bounce: To understand the :bounce: try this on for size: p4 3ghz -> quad core 3ghz DDR400 -> DDR 1200 (double amount) 128MB -> 512MB video (old is agp 8x, new is pci e 2.0) I'm moving out of the Fred Flintstone pc speeds and on up to the Jetsons, lol. I can't wait. I already have a brand new SATA II disk to install 7 on when it gets here. Im running an IDE 100 right now. That new pc is going to sink the battleship of this biotch I am posting this with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I get to order the new parts in the morning :bounce: Q9650 (quad core 3.0 Ghz, ASUS P5Q with 4GB DDR 1200, nVidia GTX 9800 512MB GDDR3 pci 2.0 fire ready. :bounce: To understand the :bounce: try this on for size: p4 3ghz -> quad core 3ghz DDR400 -> DDR 1200 (double amount) 128MB -> 512MB video (old is agp 8x, new is pci e 2.0) I'm moving out of the Fred Flintstone pc speeds and on up to the Jetsons, lol. I can't wait. I already have a brand new SATA II disk to install 7 on when it gets here. Im running an IDE 100 right now. That new pc is going to sink the battleship of this biotch I am posting this with. what will your entire upgrade cost ya. cause at the end of the month i am doing an upgrade but going AM Phenom 2 940 or 955 the 955 i have seen in some benchmarks out performs the core i 7 chips in a few benchmarks anyways lie i said a few so i am happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Access Denied Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 648 and some change for the cpu, mobo, ram and video card. I have the drives, psu and case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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