kilobitius Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Many posts have been written and many debates about disabling superfetch. And to be honest i was never a fun of superfetch as i dont use many and intensive at the same time applications to justify its use. In any case if you wish hard enough your wishes come true since now superfetch should be "OFFICIALLY" disabled since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive that makes all this nonsense completely unnecessary. Welcome Solid State Drives Goodbye Superfetch and defraggers !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordkanin Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) Memory in a computer is tiered. L1 cache is a good order of magnitude faster than L2 cache, which is an order of magnitude faster than L3, which is an order of magnitude faster than your RAM, which is an order of magnitude faster than even the best SSDs out there. Also, Superfetch does more than prefetching. It ensures that memory paged to disk ends up back in RAM preemptively. Edited April 26, 2009 by MioTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted April 26, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 26, 2009 I'm confused. Are you referring to ReadyBoost? Superfetch doesn't do anything unless it's needed so disabling it doesn't make any difference. When you see a SSD that's less than $100 for over 500 gigabytes let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismaddern Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 No SSD will ever be as fast as your system memory. Ever.Memory in a computer is and always will be tiered. L1 cache is a good order of magnitude faster than L2 cache, which is an order of magnitude faster than L3, which is a few orders of magnitude faster than your RAM, which is several orders of magnitude faster than even the best SSDs out there. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey88 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Please god no. Superfetch is one of the cleverest things that came along with Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 "Goodbye" In any case if you wish hard enough your wishes come true since now superfetch should be"OFFICIALLY" disabled since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive that makes all this nonsense completely unnecessary. We do? Last time I checked most of us didn't and were still running on standard Hard Drives. Or am I just behind the times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 This makes me a sad panda. It's a good thing. It's kind of like disabling eight of the twelve cylinders in your Aston because you only drive around town at 30mph. Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilobitius Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) Also, Superfetch does more than prefetching. It ensures that memory paged to disk ends up back in RAM preemptively. Ok so you saying make better SSD s that are RAM like fast---- fine with me!!! ----then what you gonna do superfetch them too to get speed of light ++ 1 Kmph? Off with the page file too no page file for me last 2 years without any ram related crashes... No more half measures just put the money into research to make fast hardware instead of trying to make a 1000 cc engine sound and be like a 2 litre turbo by just putting a huge exhaust and a cone filter since you like car metaphors Edited April 26, 2009 by kilobitius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Free RAM is wasted RAM, don't be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 In any case if you wish hard enough your wishes come true since now superfetch should be"OFFICIALLY" disabled since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive that makes all this nonsense completely unnecessary. Not really sure what to say to this... Are you high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted April 27, 2009 Member Share Posted April 27, 2009 I think Kilobitius needs to learn the fundementals of computer science before posting again As for the line... ...since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive... Hahaha do we really??? I sure don't and i'm also sure that 'Most of us' don't. Hopefully superfetch is going nowhere and Kilobitius is going a long way away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred 69 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 No more half measures just put the money into research to make fast hardware instead of trying to make a 1000 cc engine sound and be like a 2 litre turbo by just putting a huge exhaust and a cone filter since you like car metaphors I don't think you understand how superfetch works. RAM is faster than ANY SSD out there. They use different technologies. Perhaps you could argue a RAM disk is as fast as RAM but its still slightly slower - regardless, different debate. I too, "like everyone", have SSDs but I'm not ignorant enough to disable superfetch because I have 6GB RAM and am content letting my OS use as much as necessary to cache programs and data for faster-than-SSD-read access rates. Do you understand cars? Superfetch can be loosely likened to a supercharger. You use up some fuel for greater power with a supercharger. Superfetch uses up some RAM for greater access speeds. Edit: Grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 27, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2009 this thread kinda remindes me of people that go around saying Zomg! I have 12GB of DDR3 and disabled prefetching! um what do you do with the 12GB then? umm browse?... waste of empty RAM... prefetch stuff.... leave your system on longer.... let it cache what it thinks you need it WILL free RAM as needed if it needs 12GB it will free 12GB (Minus sytem usage) :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svnO.o Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 this thread kinda remindes me of people that go around saying Zomg! I have 12GB of DDR3 and disabled prefetching! um what do you do with the 12GB then? umm browse?... waste of empty RAM... prefetch stuff.... leave your system on longer.... let it cache what it thinks you need it WILL free RAM as needed if it needs 12GB it will free 12GB (Minus sytem usage) :laugh: Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ...since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive... People are just getting to putting Terabyte hard drives and better on their computers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 No more half measures just put the money into research to make fast hardware instead of trying to make a 1000 cc engine sound and be like a 2 litre turbo by just putting a huge exhaust and a cone filter since you like car metaphors The correct analogy would be that disabling superfetch is like removing the Turbo from your 2 litre turbo charged engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Free RAM is wasted RAM, don't be stupid. This. But tell that to XP fanboys. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentGray Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 faster harddrive would actually greatly improve what superfetch is doing... not render it useless. Superfast is a new technology designed to do something in a new and cleaver way. Advancing in one technology doesn't mean we can "ignore" another one. or disable it. Sorry, superfetching was a great feature in vista and vastly improved in 7. Disabling it is like disabling UAC in my mind. Either you're smart enough to know exactly what you're dong and have a good reason for it... or you're making a poorly informed decision that shows your ignorance. Are you convinced enough in your computer skills and hardware achetecture to know you're in the former group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Many posts have been written and many debates about disabling superfetch.And to be honest i was never a fun of superfetch as i dont use many and intensive at the same time applications to justify its use. In any case if you wish hard enough your wishes come true since now superfetch should be "OFFICIALLY" disabled since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive that makes all this nonsense completely unnecessary. Welcome Solid State Drives Goodbye Superfetch and defraggers !!! You're pulling this out of your ass? How stupid is this comment, it amaze me how misinformed you are. And NO, not everybody have a SSD.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Takahashi Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Maybe in a few years, but now. ... Nah. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xiphi Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The OP clearly has no idea what Superfetch is. No one should ever need to disable it. If you're at all worried about the life of your SSD, keep Superfetch ON!!! The whole idea behind caching your programs to your free RAM is to have less access to the HDD/SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 SuperFetch is one of the best technologies in Windows Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelli Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Many posts have been written and many debates about disabling superfetch.And to be honest i was never a fun of superfetch as i dont use many and intensive at the same time applications to justify its use. In any case if you wish hard enough your wishes come true since now superfetch should be "OFFICIALLY" disabled since most of us have a superfast Solid State Drive that makes all this nonsense completely unnecessary. Welcome Solid State Drives Goodbye Superfetch and defraggers !!! Ok so you saying make better SSD s that are RAM like fast---- fine with me!!! ----then what you gonna do superfetch them too to get speed of light ++ 1 Kmph? Off with the page file too no page file for me last 2 years without any ram related crashes... No more half measures just put the money into research to make fast hardware instead of trying to make a 1000 cc engine sound and be like a 2 litre turbo by just putting a huge exhaust and a cone filter since you like car metaphors Ahhahahahaha Seriously, if you want to tell people what to do first of all inform yourself of the average computer specs, most people do not have SSDs, next inform yourself of the technologies that you are bashing... Cheers for the laugh though (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Freeman Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sounds like someone just came here to brag about his brand new ssd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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