lt8480 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) Just been comparing the MacBook Air and Adamo, whats initially comes across is the fact Apple as usual is happy to bend the truth somewhat. But overall its interesting to see a very similar OSX and Windows based systems being similar prices. The lie: Apple claim "Yet still the world's thinnest laptop" at a Height of 0.16-0.76 inch (0.4-1.94 cm) But: the Dell Adamo has a profile of just 1.64 cm (I believe that to be thinner is it not??? :s) [Other points to note is the Adamo also comes with a 13.4 just bigger than the Macs 13.3 Mac gets a 1.86 Core 2 Duo whilst the Adamo comes with 1.2 or a 1.4 Adamo gets 3 usb over the macs 1 Adamo weighs 1.81kg to Macs lighter 1.36kg Battery life approx the same, everyone lies so minutes make no difference] So anyone have any ideas what's up with the thinnest comments? Edited April 28, 2009 by mmck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The lie: Apple claim "Yet still the world's thinnest laptop" at a Height of 0.16-0.76 inch (0.4-1.94 cm)But: the Dell Adamo has a profile of just 1.64 cm 1.64 > 0.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt8480 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 1.64 < 1.94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Guess apple will have to make it thinner in the next model to keep that title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 1.64 < 1.94 That's true. But I was pointing out why the Macbook Air is still technically thinner. I'm guessing there's a range because it's not one size throughout, and at its thinnest point, it's 1.6 cm thinner than the Dell Adamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dell could stick a pin to the front of the laptop and claim that its thinner. It should only be as thin as its thickest part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 IMO, the Adamo is overpriced for what you get. The Air is a fairly good deal. I just want a removable battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's true. But I was pointing out why the Macbook Air is still technically thinner. I'm guessing there's a range because it's not one size throughout, and at its thinnest point, it's 1.6 cm thinner than the Dell Adamo. If you want to get that technical hell throw in the power cord. My laptop is thinner because technically the power cord that connects to it is the thinest part of the laptop. Dell could stick a pin to the front of the laptop and claim that its thinner.It should only be as thin as its thickest part +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt8480 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 It should only be as thin as its thickest part Exactly. It seems odd how much they are willing to bend the truth, if they claim facts like that they might as well say its also the lightest and fastest too - in fact why not play a fanfare every time you see it and applaud because its the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 If you want to get that technical hell throw in the power cord. My laptop is thinner because technically the power cord that connects to it is the thinest part of the laptop. Don't blame me. I answered the OP's question of "So anyone have any ideas what's up with the thinnest comments?" I'm not defending Apple. I was just pointing out that at its thinnest, the Macbook Air is indeed the thinnest laptop. "World's thinnest at its thinnest point" doesn't sound as good as "still the world's thinnest laptop". It's called advertising. It should only be as thin as its thickest part I agree, somewhat. However, at its thinnest point, the Macbook is significantly thinner than the Adamo. But at its thickest point, it's only 3 mm thicker than the Adamo. Some people like curvy. Also, Pixil Eyes, your power cord isn't a part of your laptop. So no, your laptop isn't (technically) thinner. That's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Don't blame me. I answered the OP's question of "So anyone have any ideas what's up with the thinnest comments?" I'm not defending Apple. I was just pointing out that at its thinnest, the Macbook Air is indeed the thinnest laptop. "World's thinnest at its thinnest point" doesn't sound as good as "still the world's thinnest laptop". It's called advertising. I agree, somewhat. However, at its thinnest point, the Macbook is significantly thinner than the Adamo. But at its thickest point, it's only 3 mm thicker than the Adamo. Some people like curvy. Also, Pixil Eyes, your power cord isn't a part of your laptop. So no, your laptop isn't (technically) thinner. That's just silly. You need the power cord to function. So why not? They could advertise it in that aspect if you boil down to it. All fair in advertising right? Like another poster said. You could stick a blade out and call it the thinest point. I'm not defending either I'm just pointing out what is consumer correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted April 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's true. But I was pointing out why the Macbook Air is still technically thinner. I'm guessing there's a range because it's not one size throughout, and at its thinnest point, it's 1.6 cm thinner than the Dell Adamo. Only one edge of the Air is thinner. The rest is thicker. Look at how it's shaped compared to the Adamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Because the title of "world's thinnest laptop", based on the power cord size wouldn't get approved. Too much false advertising. Not everything's acceptable in advertising. As long as you changed the wording enough, then fine. Only one edge of the Air is thinner. The rest is thicker. Look at how it's shaped compared to the Adamo. I already noticed that (it's implyed, at least, in Post #10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Because the title of "world's thinnest laptop", based on the power cord size wouldn't get approved. Too much false advertising. Not everything's acceptable in advertising. This is what I was looking for Too much false advertising. I don't think any is o.k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 As a consumer, I completely agree with you. :yes: (Not that I'd purchase either of these laptops.) As someone who can see the advertising potential of "Yet still the world's thinnest laptop", I agree with Apple's marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ien Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 1.64 > 0.4 THis is extremely stupid - any object with corners and edges can be said to be zero inches in thickness at the edges. The maximum defines the thinkness of a laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 What part of 1.64 > 0.4 is stupid? By providing the range of the height, it allows Apple to keep their claim. Seems clever/sneaky to me. any object with corners and edges can be said to be zero inches in thickness at the edges According to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think that the average thickness of the air is still less than the Adamo. If people actually held the two, most would call the Adamo thicker. Maybe Apple needs to reevaluate the wording of their claim. It's really a 1-dimensional vs 3-dimensional issue (thickness vs. volume). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt8480 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 It's really a 1-dimensional vs 3-dimensional issue (thickness vs. volume). If they put its has the smallest "volume" it would probably also be wrong, as there are probably smaller. I think the dilema Apple have is the main advertising aspect of its Air is its small size - and if its not the smallest at something then it has little to no benefit as it cuts a lot from the product to achieve it. The Adamo cuts a lot as well somewhat, but just things like having 3 usb ports rather than 1 is a massive difference. I wan't to see an Adamo advert also claiming to be the world thinnest notebook. Surely then that would confuses customers having to product that contradict one another (unless they were exactly the same size which they are not). One has to be thinner they both can't be - Let the advertising controls decide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 The Air came out 1-2 years before the Adamo, it was thinner back then. I don't think you're gonna start comparing with older laptops that once made that same claim. Anyway, the Air is still cheaper, lighter and more equipped than the Adamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeemed Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 1.64 < 1.94 Mmmhmmm :yes: Dell could stick a pin to the front of the laptop and claim that its thinner.It should only be as thin as its thickest part :laugh: ...but ditto for the 2nd line :hmmm: I'd get the Adamo. Slightly slower CPU (which shouldn't run too badly on Windows 7), but better connectivity, even if that's "only" in the shape of 2 extra USB ports, Gigabit Ethernet, and optional 3G card :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted April 29, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 29, 2009 The Adamo is hugely overpriced for what it is at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted April 29, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2009 A picture is worth a thousand posts. I'll take the Air any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 A picture is worth a thousand posts. I'll take the Air any day. Not really, the curved edges of the MacBook give the ILLUSION that it is smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Not really, the curved edges of the MacBook give the ILLUSION that it is smaller. If you do the math, the MacBook IS smaller. Both in width, length and average height. That leads to a lower volume. It is not an illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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