Billmaster Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think it would be great and kill two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen W Veteran Posted April 29, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think it would be great and kill two birds with one stone. Are you asking if you can use a 32-bit XP Mode VM on a x64 Windows 7 Install? If so....yes. And you can already run 32-bit applications under a 64-bit OS anyways :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Are you asking if you can use a 32-bit XP Mode VM on a x64 Windows 7 Install?If so....yes. And you can already run 32-bit applications under a 64-bit OS anyways :) If you need backwards compatibility with 16-bit applications, you can use 32-bit OS in VM on a 64-bit host OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 XP Mode is only available as 32-bit, and will be 32-bit regardless of what your copy of Windows 7 is. It's a virtual machine running a full copy of XP SP3 (an OS that is 32-bit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 The new XPM is mainly for compatibility reason. It would make no sense to offer XP-X64. The most compatible OS is 32bit XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_over Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 so will it accept 32 bit drivers? and is it included in the latest rc or will it be rtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzen Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Windows XP mode will not be included in Windows 7 at all, due to the risk of antitrust accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Windows XP mode will not be included in Windows 7 at all, due to the risk of antitrust accusations. lol, i think microsoft has their back clear this time around. what antitrust? they are simply adding complete backwards compatibility. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom7000 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Windows XP mode will not be included in Windows 7 at all, due to the risk of antitrust accusations. Welcome to Neowin Newbie. We tend to back up most of our statements (especially those along a similar fashion to what you just posted) with either a source or something called proof! The inclusion of Virtual XP Mode is near enough officially announced by Microsoft anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiWanToby Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 What would be neat is if this can be extended to other operating systems, such as linux. It would be hard to use the advanced RDP 6.1 features though, but if it could be done, it would be neat to run Linux inside Windows. I guess it would be like http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubu...-inside-windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnB Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Welcome to Neowin Newbie. We tend to back up most of our statements (especially those along a similar fashion to what you just posted) with either a source or something called proof!The inclusion of Virtual XP Mode is near enough officially announced by Microsoft anyway! I think what he meant is that it'll be a separate download -- a la Windows Live Essentials -- so that other VM solution providers (and the EU) can't sue Microsoft for including it in the base OS. As far as proof, nothing is official until it's official but so far, Thurrott and Rafael have been fairly accurate: Dubbed Windows XP Mode (it was originally called Virtual Windows XP), this feature will ship separately from the core OS for antitrust reasons and will be made available for free to customers of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/xp_mode_preview.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo2008jedi Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Anyone tried this yet? What is the performance like... Say I had an old PC game that ran under XP but not Vista, will DirectX still work in the virtual environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 lol, i think microsoft has their back clear this time around. what antitrust? they are simply adding complete backwards compatibility. :p There are several competitors that also make virtually identical virtualization technologies, so I'm sure one could argue that it would be dangerous to include on the disc. Anyone tried this yet? What is the performance like...Say I had an old PC game that ran under XP but not Vista, will DirectX still work in the virtual environment? It doesn't emulate 3D hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Welcome to Neowin Newbie. We tend to back up most of our statements (especially those along a similar fashion to what you just posted) with either a source or something called proof!The inclusion of Virtual XP Mode is near enough officially announced by Microsoft anyway! I think you guys are ragging on him, but I am pretty sure he is right... It won't be included.. it is supposed to be avil. as a separate download from the web, after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordkanin Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 so will it accept 32 bit drivers?and is it included in the latest rc or will it be rtm XP mode is a virtual machine. It would need no drivers from you. They're based on the requirements of the virtual machine, and Microsoft will have already built them in. It would make no sense to offer XP x64 in the VM, because the point is compatibility with decade-old apps that simply don't run well on Vista/7. Windows 7 x64 will only take 64-bit drivers. Either way, i don't see what all the fuss is about. When are any of you ever going to use this feature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Either way, i don't see what all the fuss is about. When are any of you ever going to use this feature? +1 It's only good for business apps. No 3D emulation means no older games will run in XPM. All my applications / games run great with Vista / Win7, so this thing is useless for me, and I will go so far to say it's going to be useless for most home user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Not just that. It won't even be available to most, as it's not part of Home Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_MSWindows Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think you guys are ragging on him, but I am pretty sure he is right... It won't be included.. it is supposed to be avil. as a separate download from the web, after the fact. It will come in two parts... "Windows XP Mode is the combination of two features. The first part is a pre-packaged virtual Windows XP environment. The second is Windows Virtual PC, which is used to run the virtual Windows XP environment. Customers can install their applications into Windows XP Mode using typical installation processes such as downloading from the Web or using the product CD. Once installed, the applications are automatically available on the Windows 7 Start Menu and can be launched just like any Windows 7 program. Optionally, these Windows XP applications can be pinned to the Windows 7 Task Bar and launched using just a single click from the Windows 7 desktop." Source This feature is geared more towards businesses than gaming as a few of you have drawn attention to, hence the reason it is only an optional feature of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate editions. The source link above does a good job explaining the purpose behind it and an explanation of how it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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