majortom1981 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Wait so let me get this straight, Old video games and some other programs like photoshop will not work in XPM? I think it would be better if microsoft added on the ability to just install XP in a seperate partition. I mean we're already getting a free XP are we not? ITs an xp virtual machine with xp already installed. You couldnt play games on a virtual xp machine anyway. ITs basically virtual xp 2007 with a free xp virtual machine included renamed to virtual windows xp. You have configure it the same way and everything. Meaning it needs its own virus scanner, has to be always updated and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Your missing the point, it's a half-assed attempt at best. People who need virtualization have so many better options out there than this. For instance, here is Virtualbox, running in seamless mode, of which VirtualPC/VirtualXP has a quarter of the performance capabilities. The additions are also half assed, I could even do them myself by RDPing into VirtualPC 2007, and allow Remote Desktop to accelerate the desktop composition.It's a nice attempt, but it's a half-assed attempt at a solution that has been out for a decade now. Although, I need to hand it to Microsoft, they streamlined the experience of creating virtual machines, I've been working with virtualization for years and this is the easiest I've ever seen it. Hmmm, is it possible to get the seamless mode without the extra taskbar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Yay the VHD also leaked on the bay ^^ Downloading now, running @ 4876102 (hum hum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tyranade Subscriber² Posted April 30, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted April 30, 2009 WTF cant get auto-publish to work >.<. I think i need to wait for the .msi file to download X_x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbo Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 You need to download and install the RAIL QFE for Windows (in the guest operating system) if you want to enable local integration of the guest apps. I don't know which .msi file you are talking about, because the only .msi package available is the one to install Windows Virtual PC Beta... QFE for Vista guest operating system: windows6.0-kb961741-x86.msu QFE for Windows XP: The package is names as KB961742-v3_ <Language Code>.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagpus Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Got XPmode running.. using Virtual Windows XP Applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 It runs everything over RDP in the real VHD thingy, and I must say it totally sucks and I wouldn't use it at all for normal use. It's okay for legacy apps that really -don't- work but it will have no use at all for a regular customer. Everything running in VPC (integrated or in the window) runs over an RDP session and doesn't even have full colors... + I guess the RDP layer makes you lose some extra performance etc.. Cool idea, even though it has absolutely no use unless your apps just don't work in 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhpuqrgrpgvirzhpujbj Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 For anyone looking for this, if you hunt for iso's, an 'isohunt' if you will, make sure to search for xpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taimur Asad Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It works beautifully! here we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalE Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 So, is this essentially Virtual PC with "seamless" mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taimur Asad Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 So, is this essentially Virtual PC with "seamless" mode? Besides XP Mode, Windows Virtual PC has alot of features which Virtual PC 2007 lacks big time. Check out this comparison chart between Virtual PC 2007 and Windows Virtual PC: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-p...es/compare.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segobi Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Besides XP Mode, Windows Virtual PC has alot of features which Virtual PC 2007 lacks big time. Check out this comparison chart between Virtual PC 2007 and Windows Virtual PC: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-p...es/compare.aspx Currently i do not see any advantage of using virtual pc 7 with xp mode instead of virtualbox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhavesh Dhaka Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Everyone, stop complaining. Remember: 1. The solution by MS is free. FREE. 2. It is not for home users. The feature is not available in the home editions. 3. It is for legacy apps. Legacy apps are not all about performance, they are all about functionality. If the refresh rate is less or there is no 3d support, that doesn't mean that it "totally sucks". For organizations where a single proprietary app is stopping them from making an upgrade, this is a boon. Just a shortcut, and it will work seamlessly. 4. MS does not pitch this as a full blown virtualization software. It is an addon, that allows you to run legacy apps. Yes, it is feature limited, but that is the way it is designed. To be minimalistic and run the apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taimur Asad Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Everyone, stop complaining.Remember: 1. The solution by MS is free. FREE. 2. It is not for home users. The feature is not available in the home editions. 3. It is for legacy apps. Legacy apps are not all about performance, they are all about functionality. If the refresh rate is less or there is no 3d support, that doesn't mean that it "totally sucks". For organizations where a single proprietary app is stopping them from making an upgrade, this is a boon. Just a shortcut, and it will work seamlessly. 4. MS does not pitch this as a full blown virtualization software. It is an addon, that allows you to run legacy apps. Yes, it is feature limited, but that is the way it is designed. To be minimalistic and run the apps. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeJAyP Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 If it hasn't already been posted before, I found that by default the virtual machine was being run in 16 bit colour mode due to the rdp nature of the program, so in order to view the programs in 24bit colours just follow the MS instructions on allowing Terminal Services for XP in 24bit colour at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...502&sd=tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tyranade Subscriber² Posted May 1, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 1, 2009 If it hasn't already been posted before, I found that by default the virtual machine was being run in 16 bit colour mode due to the rdp nature of the program, so in order to view the programs in 24bit colours just follow the MS instructions on allowing Terminal Services for XP in 24bit colour at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...502&sd=tech Hmm I dont see the needed option to enable 24 bit color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camlann Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Guys, in my Virtual Machines Folder the link for creating a new VM is missing. any ideas? Should look like on this screenshot, but it does not :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeJAyP Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hmm I dont see the needed option to enable 24 bit color I was having trouble testing certain websites in IE6 because of the colour depth, generally though it's just for aesthetic reasons, making the toolbar look better etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2004 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 haha this could get confusing, im gonna try installing andlinux on the virtual xp and see what thats like running virtualised linux in virtual xp on windows 7 LOL @jjrambo yes sadly on the last couple of weeks of a computer science degree and im churning out work faster than i can clear it off the desktop sigh not long to go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrambo Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Useless, you can do this under Vista and Virtual PC 2007 and still companies didn't find useful. If MS thinks that this will be driven factor for many business to go from XP to Windows 7 and have Virtual XP under to run certain apps, then MS is really mistaken there. Mind of people in business will say this. That looks nice but then why would i buy Windows 7 and run Windows XP under it for certain apps when i can run anything on Windows XP including apps i would only run on Windows 7. haha this could get confusing, im gonna try installing andlinux on the virtual xp and see what thats like running virtualised linux in virtual xp on windows 7 LOL That's one big mess you got on desktop...speaking of being unorganized :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2004 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Guys,in my Virtual Machines Folder the link for creating a new VM is missing. any ideas? Should look like on this screenshot, but it does not :( shows here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinTero Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Looks like, XP Automatic Updates gets integrated as well: :D But this one they need to tweak i guess: There should be a sort of warning before logoff/restart, when XPM is running and an option to hibernate it. And for those who have not figured out the publishing - all you really need to do, is drop the program's shortcut to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu" folder. And it appears in 'Virtual Windows XP Applications' menu in 7. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 What is cool is that it is RDP based. If big companies want to (and as far as I know it's possible) they could set up a virtual server that runs like 20 XP's and servers the apps to the clients over RDP instead of having XP run on the clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Microsoft already offers enterprise solutions for doing that, both with and without virtualization. XP Mode is a more basic option intended for small businesses without an IT department and centralized administration, where the whole thing is set up and managed manually for each user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taimur Asad Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Guys,in my Virtual Machines Folder the link for creating a new VM is missing. any ideas? Should look like on this screenshot, but it does not :( works fine here. Reinstalling might help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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