Camlann Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 works fine here. Reinstalling might help? Nope, did'nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihmos Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Why would you want to use Windows XP? What's the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Why would you want to use Windows XP? What's the point... Please read what XPM is, it's for small IT companies who need older applications to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihmos Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Why would you want to use Windows XP? What's the point... I know what it is but I don't see what is so exciting about it. What's the big deal in getting to use Windows XP in a VM enviroment? That's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I know what it is but I don't see what is so exciting about it. What's the big deal in getting to use Windows XP in a VM enviroment? That's nothing new. No one ever said it was. I suppose the excitement is around who it's coming from, and for what price, and what the implications of this long overdue push into VM means for the future development of Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tyranade Subscriber² Posted May 2, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) Does anyone know if its possible to move the VHD to another HDD without breaking the Application integration feature? EDIT: Nevermind done it. Moved the VHD to another location and it worked. Edited May 2, 2009 by Disengage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarpraz Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 You really wonder about some people who get excited about something like this. As though Virtual PC and XP haven't been available for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 You really wonder about some people who get excited about something like this. As though Virtual PC and XP haven't been available for years. They're just excited that it's for free from MS. :p . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azusa Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Can you use Windows picture and fax viewer too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 You really wonder about some people who get excited about something like this. As though Virtual PC and XP haven't been available for years. It is more of an implementation thing. Apart from having direct desktop integration, and full virtualisation support, you also get a totally free license to use the copy of XP virtually if you are using the correct SKU of Windows 7, meaning you no longer have to own a copy of both OS licenses, as the XP license will be thrown in free of charge. Plus it will help a lot of companies who are holding off migration to deploy 7 and still be able to change their infrastructure over in their own time. IMO, although the advantages to consumers are debatable, the advantage to corporations is very big. Something I feel will push adoption of 7 in a way that it didn't in Vista. Can you use Windows picture and fax viewer too? Theoretically you can use any application on the XP install, but I don't believe you will be able to associate your files with it. However that will not be necessary, as Live Photo Gallery will be removed from 7 which will use something pretty similar to the P&F viewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihmos Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 They're just excited that it's for free from MS. :p . Microsoft Virtual PC has always been free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 XP hasn't though :p Really if you own Pro, Business, or Ultimate, you are essentially getting 2 OS licenses thrown in for the price of 1. Granted, one of them is a virtualised license but personally I think it is great that Microsoft are willing to throw XP for free at 7 adopters to help them make the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 whats the need to even run xp in another vm? 7 is good enough IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinTero Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Speaking of which - is the "free" XP licence tied to the Virtual PC, or can i extract the product key and install it to Virtualbox instead? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azusa Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Theoretically you can use any application on the XP install, but I don't believe you will be able to associate your files with it. However that will not be necessary, as Live Photo Gallery will be removed from 7 which will use something pretty similar to the P&F viewer With support for .gifs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 whats the need to even run xp in another vm? 7 is good enough IMO. Legacy Apps :p Speaking of which - is the "free" XP licence tied to the Virtual PC, or can i extract the product key and install it to Virtualbox instead? :rolleyes: Don't know, but installing it into Virtualbox will not infer the same integration advantages as using it as supplied. I would imagine though that it is possible to extract the key, but my guess is that the VM will be pre-activated, and that any attempt to activate it on other hardware would fail. With support for .gifs? Can't say I am certain on that one mate, haven't gotten around to installing the RC yet, been rather busy :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 With support for .gifs? You're going to spend hundreds of megabytes of memory and disk space as well as countless CPU cycles running a full version of Windows XP in a virtual machine (that doesn't emulate any sort of real video hardware, and is set up to run in 16-bit!) just so you can use the image viewer in it? Seriously? Have you considered just getting a third-party viewer instead? (And yes, the Windows Photo Viewer supports GIF files, but not animations.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hiroshi- Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 This is still by far a better solution at integrated XP than Microsoft's been able to put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Have two taskbars is a better solution? VMWare at least integrates into the main taskbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hiroshi- Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Have two taskbars is a better solution?VMWare at least integrates into the main taskbar. Yes, it's a better solution, maybe you should try it before attacking it. It's also better because it does have 3D hardware acceleration, 32-bit color mode, nearly ten times faster than Win VPC, and doesn't leave your PC begging for mercy with shoddy drivers that work for most and not for some. Oh wait, installing this and installing VPC in the same OS might cause random bluescreens, so I guess you can't try it now, good luck removing VPC and the rogue drivers it installs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I have tried both, and I prefer one taskbar if I want integration. If I want visible isolation, I'll run the whole thing in a VM window. Also, calm down a little. You seem about ready to murder someone because a beta product has crash problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I'm suprised nobody has mentioned that this can be hooked into Active Directory and Group Policies? None of the other solutions do this I don't think? [correct me if I am wrong though] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinTero Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I did peek into EULA and it seems, you can use whatever environment, as long as it's virtual and inside Windows 7. "The Software contains the Windows XP operating system described above within the Virtual Hard Disk (?VHD?) image format. Virtual machine (?virtualization?) software is required to use the Software, and virtualization software that supports the VHD format is recommended but is not required to use the Software." There is even a key.txt file containing the product key in Virtual XP installation folder. Of course other software does not have the same integration features as Virtual PC and you may have to call in for activation, but it's still nice, they let you use other stuff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Yes, it's a better solution, maybe you should try it before attacking it. It's also better because it does have 3D hardware acceleration, 32-bit color mode, nearly ten times faster than Win VPC, and doesn't leave your PC begging for mercy with shoddy drivers that work for most and not for some.Oh wait, installing this and installing VPC in the same OS might cause random bluescreens, so I guess you can't try it now, good luck removing VPC and the rogue drivers it installs. Actually, FYI VMWare installs more drivers. The only driver VPC installs is for networking and it has never caused me a BSOD. Not to mention VMWare is not free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tyranade Subscriber² Posted May 2, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 2, 2009 I've used XP in Virtual Box, VM Ware with unity and XPM and id rather have it integrated into my task bar rather than having 2 task bars. So IMO XPM is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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