Reacon Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I hate every aspect of Punkbuster. It's worse than goddamn SecuROM. I guess it does its job though...unlike SuckuROM. Thank god I left Vista installed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Maybe, just maybe, every software company doesn't download every build of Windows 7 that is released by MS or via the intertubes. The release candidate will probably get more attention from companies, but the point of these prereleases is to allow them to begin working on compatibility issues so that they can be solved by the final release of the operating system, not for them to race to keep their software working for all the people testing a nonfinal OS. Well, while the OS changes, the software itself doesn't(punkbuster) punkbuster did the same to me when playing America's army last year. got fed up and uninstalled the game and PB Sounds about right. Punkbuster is and always has been trash. It's like a stone-age piece of software that just can't catch any cheats, only some basic scripts some kid wrote. I have played many games since the dawn of proper multiplayer gaming, many of them sporting Punkbuster and not one of those games didn't have a wildfire of a cheating scene because Punkbuster is so easily beat. It's annoying to have this amateur piece of software so deeply rooted into many games and lots of servers deciding to use it because they want that sense of false security ... +1 couldn't agree more with you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulCabby Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 What the hell? I'm not getting any troubles at all with PB on Windows 7/Vista and i regularly play CoD4/CoDWaW online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Sounds about right. Punkbuster is and always has been trash. It's like a stone-age piece of software that just can't catch any cheats, only some basic scripts some kid wrote. I have played many games since the dawn of proper multiplayer gaming, many of them sporting Punkbuster and not one of those games didn't have a wildfire of a cheating scene because Punkbuster is so easily beat. It's annoying to have this amateur piece of software so deeply rooted into many games and lots of servers deciding to use it because they want that sense of false security ... This man speaks the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakumo Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 This man speaks the truth Punkbuster with : QuakeLive works with all builds of win7 I tried Quake3Arena works in 7100 but only if you run Quake3.exe as adminsitrator (just like vista) no other moving of files/compatability mode changing is neccessary or should be performed. If you have been experimenting with any of those 'fixes' I would highly recommend completely uninstalling punkbuster from your OS (leave the pb folder in your games dirs) delete any pnkbstrA / pnkbstrB / pnkbstrK files, and reinstall it with the latest pbsvc.exe from the evenballance web site. do make use of the 'test' button when you run pbsvc.exe again, though 2 of the firewall tests will show up blue instead of green as the test doesn't understand the public/private split in the new win7 firewall, manually check those services are enabled for access publicly. I would hope any vaguely Q3 engine based games would work the same now, certainly there are plenty of reports of people playing cod4 in win7 RC (7100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted May 4, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 4, 2009 I don't understand the issue, PB doesn't work with an OS that isn't officially released yet *gasp* .. pb have always said they will support the os when it is commercially available and not before, yes there are workarounds, but seriously why would anyone want to use a beta OS as their main OS and expect everything to work, I appreciate it is now an interim RC (to a select few unless you have a less than legit download) but it is still in beta until a final release. Each to their own I suppose but I look at this as a non-issue, if you are passionate about gaming, use an OS that supports the protocols you want to use or wait until it is supported. Just my tuppence worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Punkbuster with :QuakeLive works with all builds of win7 I tried Quake3Arena works in 7100 but only if you run Quake3.exe as adminsitrator (just like vista) no other moving of files/compatability mode changing is neccessary or should be performed. If you have been experimenting with any of those 'fixes' I would highly recommend completely uninstalling punkbuster from your OS (leave the pb folder in your games dirs) delete any pnkbstrA / pnkbstrB / pnkbstrK files, and reinstall it with the latest pbsvc.exe from the evenballance web site. do make use of the 'test' button when you run pbsvc.exe again, though 2 of the firewall tests will show up blue instead of green as the test doesn't understand the public/private split in the new win7 firewall, manually check those services are enabled for access publicly. I would hope any vaguely Q3 engine based games would work the same now, certainly there are plenty of reports of people playing cod4 in win7 RC (7100) Nope this PIECE OF **** software still does not work. All the tests completed fine and they have access in the firewall. Completely clean and fully updated install of punkbuster on windows 7 build 7100. Get kicked from cod4 every time for "unknown windows api function" Punkbuster sucks period. I often get errors like that in vista too, it's so friggin annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewxp Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I don't understand the issue, PB doesn't work with an OS that isn't officially released yet *gasp* .. pb have always said they will support the os when it is commercially available and not before, yes there are workarounds, but seriously why would anyone want to use a beta OS as their main OS and expect everything to work, I appreciate it is now an interim RC (to a select few unless you have a less than legit download) but it is still in beta until a final release. Each to their own I suppose but I look at this as a non-issue, if you are passionate about gaming, use an OS that supports the protocols you want to use or wait until it is supported. Just my tuppence worth. Funny thing is... things do work, its already at RC after all. And if I might add... they work well. Everything runs faster, feels more presentable, and benchmarks/model rendering for me run higher than my Vista installation did. I myself can say this because I'm one of those that opted to use Windows 7 RC as their main OS. I do this to help out with their development for it, while bringing something new. When something happens like this (Punkbuster issue), its always some third-party/dying business that was too lazy to update their drivers. Punkbuster isn't the only business like that. (*cough Hauppauge). Instead its up to the mainstream users (us) to try to find a work-around. Half the time, we actually do find something to fix it. But they're the ones who created it, they should be able to modify a line or two in their source code to allow it. And if you stay up to date with the TechNet MSDN Blogs, you'ld know that the Service API of Windows 7 isn't going to change its foundation. Which means that if they fix this issue: They would please the users who wanted it, already have support for the future Final RTM release of Windows 7, and increase the revenue/image for the people who hired them in the first place (EA). All of which are more beneficial to them than just sitting around doing nothing, giving the same annoying pre-written reply "We do not support Windows 7 at this time". If there's a demand for something, its not wise to let it go un-checked. The excuse they use is just because they're flat-out lazy. Read the previous posts from other users with the same idea. If you were in our boat, you'ld know how we felt. We're the reason they'll eventually give support for Windows 7. If everyone sat back and never requested/brought to their attention that there are users out there with these problems, they wouldn't have a need to supply a fix. Basic Supply/Demand idea. Programming isn't hard at all; like I said, it doesn't take long. As for why some people out there user these operating systems as their main OS, well... really? Why do I like to have cars that cost over 70K when I can easily get one under 20K like most others... Why do I read about future technology and business trends, when I can easily just sit back and wait till its introduced to the public like most people out there, why do I invest stock in a brand new business that looks promising, but has only just emerged on the market.... its just my life-style. I like living to the fullest man, staying up to date, and keeping my ideas flowing. It's how I bring so much money to my family, and frankly... point and simple: its how I live my life. No one wants to hire someone who has no aspirations and doesn't strive to do more in their personal time. But yea, no hard feelings. I was just stating what was on my mind, & talking to the people that felt the same way you did. I've read too many comments that shared the same principle as yours did, so I thought I'ld say something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Mazza Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 They should have already fixed this! We don't give a damn that it's still RC. Some respect for the gamers that they do know are always on the edge would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Its Windows 7 way OTT security. You cant really blame Evenbalance for not wanting to touch Punkbuster till Windows 7 goes RTM. What it is, is that Program Files and every folder contained therein doesnt allow any program that doesnt have Administrative privileges to write to any folder in Program Files, if you 'run as Administrator' it will work fine so the Punkbuster A trying to download and run Punkbuster B wont work as it doesnt have Administrative privileges, so if you right click on punkbuster folder and check permissions you will see that your local account doesnt have full control of the folder, if you change permissions to have full control over write and read then i think the problem will go away. I cant test this as i dont have any games that run Punkbuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I hate Punkbuster it kicks me from games all the time even when I'm under Vista x64. And I do not cheat at all. The best anti-cheat from my perspective is VAC from Valve I've never once been kicked by that from any game I play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbonbon Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) This worked for me, hope it works for otheres... Windows 7 RC (build 7100) 64bit - Punkbuster - Call of Duty 4 Getting kicked for "PB Kick: Unknown Windows API Function [1311**]" ? Make sure UAC is turned off before doing this! (and you've restarted since doing so). Ensure all traces of PB are uninstalled before doing this... even if you uninstall COD 4 through Windows you will need to manually delete the folder from x86 program filed. 1. Install Call of Duty, but click no to installing Punkbuster. 2. When this has finished, run pbsvc.exe from the disk. 3. Downloaded pbsetup from the even balance website. If you already have it downloaded, delete everything but the .exe from the folder its in. 4. Run pbsetup and choose the install directory for COD 4 (in C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare) Check these two locations... There will be two new folders in the below locations, and the files in each should be the same: C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\pb C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\COD4\pb 5. Copy your 'players' folder (if you saved it from your previous build) to C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare 6. Run the game, and enter a multiplayer pnkbuster game. Chances are you will be kicked after not long, wait till this if you can to exit the game. 7. Check again in the file locations i mentioned before, and you'll notice some different files: FROM C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\COD4\pb COPY pbsv.dat, PnkBstrA.exe, PnkBstrB.exe, and PnkBstrK.sys TO C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\pb FROM C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\pb COPY pbcl.db, pbns_c.dat, and the 'scrnshot' folder TO C:\Users\{username}\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\COD4\pb You should have the same stuff in both directories now. Right click all instances of PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe and set to run as admin (to be honest I think it will work fine without doing this, but its what i did) Try running the game now... Hope this works for you, post back if it does, it certainly did for me! Feel free to pass this on, just don't forget to mention my name ;-) J Edited May 5, 2009 by jimbonbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilgaMesh Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Anyone tested the above fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbonbon Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Anyone tested the above fix? Just about to post back. Lasted two hours, which is the longest I've had out of it so far, then failed. Will go back to the drawing board. Damn my premature excitement... J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilgaMesh Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Ah well, Cheers for trying and letting us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protocol7 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I've tried every fix so far with COD4 and none of them work. Sometimes PB just won't kick you for a while, so you think the fix must be working. So for now my "fix" is to filter out the PB servers until evenbalance get down off their high horse. Not all non-PB servers are full of cheaters, and a moderated non-PB server will be just as safe as a PB one. You can still have cheaters on PB servers, it's not like it's invincible. So the only real fix for now is more moderated servers that are not running PB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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