jasondefaoite Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Just installed the RC, and still doing the usual updates. Looking at XPM available on MSDN, you need to use the 64bit version if you are using the 64bit version of win7. I'm assuming this is just the virtual PC type application, and you still have the option to emulate a 64 or 32bit version of XP. Is this the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean2989 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I would say x64 to x64. But it would be worth a shot to see it you could do it the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+seb5150 Subscriber² Posted May 2, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 2, 2009 I installed the x64 version on my x64 install of the RC. At this point I'm not very impressed. I had MS VirtualPC 2007 set up with an install of WinXP on my Vista64 build and it was much more responsive than the XPM setup. Hopefully they work the bugs out before the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasondefaoite Posted May 4, 2009 Author Share Posted May 4, 2009 Ok, according to Paul Thurrott from the recent Windows Weekly podcast, the virtualised client is 32bit, even on the 64bit systems. Good news if true. I'll try it out later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumki Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Yes, it is true, The virtual client is 32 bit only no matter what pkg you download from technet. But it only has 256 MB of RAM reserved and takes up about 1.6GB for the vhd. The client responds very well on 64-bit win7. The seamless integration was great. You can launch the apps inside the virtual client from win7 menu. The virtual machine launches when you try to open the item. Last night I installed my company VPN client which is 32-bit only inside XP mode. I was able to launch vpn and connect to work using putty installed inside XP. Worked great. Wondering if it is possible to increase the memory allocation !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevember Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Yes, it is true, The virtual client is 32 bit only no matter what pkg you download from technet. But it only has 256 MB of RAM reserved and takes up about 1.6GB for the vhd. The client responds very well on 64-bit win7. The seamless integration was great. You can launch the apps inside the virtual client from win7 menu. The virtual machine launches when you try to open the item. Last night I installed my company VPN client which is 32-bit only inside XP mode. I was able to launch vpn and connect to work using putty installed inside XP. Worked great.Wondering if it is possible to increase the memory allocation !!! Yes close it down don't hibernate then right click file VHD settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumki Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Yes close it down don't hibernate then right click file VHD settings. Hey, Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Using 64bit XPM for compatibility? Isn't it pointless? I mean 64bit WinXP and compatibility don't go in the same sentence for any good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbo Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Using 64bit XPM for compatibility? Isn't it pointless? I mean 64bit WinXP and compatibility don't go in the same sentence for any good reason. The guest OS is 32bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_dandy_ Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Using 64bit XPM for compatibility? Isn't it pointless? I mean 64bit WinXP and compatibility don't go in the same sentence for any good reason. Troll. Have you used XP x64 at all? I've been using it since its release in 2005, and I've had less compatibility issues with it than, say, Vista (x86 or x64). Got drivers for all my hardware, and the few apps that won't install because they think it's a server OS aren't missed. That being said, I do agree that it makes more sense to try to achieve compatibility with XP x86 than XP x64, since the former has the largest installed base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Troll. Have you used XP x64 at all? I've been using it since its release in 2005, and I've had less compatibility issues with it than, say, Vista (x86 or x64). Got drivers for all my hardware, and the few apps that won't install because they think it's a server OS aren't missed.That being said, I do agree that it makes more sense to try to achieve compatibility with XP x86 than XP x64, since the former has the largest installed base... I am a troll because...you agree with me? Damn, that's a first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_dandy_ Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I am a troll because...you agree with me? Damn, that's a first! My point was that there was more compatilibility issues going from XP -> Vista than XP x86 -> XP x64. Pretty sad that I have to explain this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 i just remember something a while ago ....when there was talk that MS would drop 32bit edtion for codename windows 8 i guess XPM would help in that matter since 64bit windows cant run 16bit applications ,that if they consider the mathod in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasondefaoite Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 .... Last night I installed my company VPN client which is 32-bit only inside XP mode. I was able to launch vpn and connect to work using putty installed inside XP. Worked great. This was exactly why I was planning on using XPM, for VPN and netmeeting which does not work on win7 (yes, netmeeting ... don't ask!). Netmeeting works, but the VPN doesn't. I'm using a USB key, which XPM does find and read the certificate from it. However, it fails when trying to connect ... server failed to respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_over Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I installed XPM but recieve an error when trying to launch virtual PC... i cant remember what it was at the moment but i dont think you can run it at all unless your processor supports 'hardware virtualisation' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrian Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I am a troll because...you agree with me? Damn, that's a first! Well, I don't agree with you. When XP x64 came out I switched and I haven't used a 32-bit OS since (unless you count Haiku in a VM for a few minutes every few months to check on its progress). Running a 64-bit VM for XPM would be perfectly fine for me, if it were possible, because I would be using it for applications that only work on XP, not on applications that only work on a 32-bit OS. Which pretty much means I won't be using it, since all my apps work on Windows 7 x64. I was tempted to try it out to run The Chronicles of Spellborn, which does not work on 7 due to some anti-cheat software it tries to run being suppressed, but it doesn't sound like XPM is a viable choice for gaming. Instead I'll just have to wait for them to update the client so it can run. Still, the geek in me that wants to try out XPM simply because I can. I'd really like to know if you can patch the uxtheme.dll in the VM and change themes, so that when you open an app in XPM it would use the window border of the 3rd party theme and not Luna. I installed XPM but recieve an error when trying to launch virtual PC... i cant remember what it was at the moment but i dont think you can run it at all unless your processor supports 'hardware virtualisation' Yes, that was well documented when XPM was announced. Your CPU must support virtualization and it must be enabled in your BIOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted May 5, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 5, 2009 I installed XPM but recieve an error when trying to launch virtual PC... i cant remember what it was at the moment but i dont think you can run it at all unless your processor supports 'hardware virtualisation' Your processor is like mine, it does not support virtualization. It cannot run XP Mode. Check if your processor supports virtualization by running this, http://www.grc.com/securable.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrian Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I couldn't resist playing with it. Now if I could only figure out how to enable 24-bit or even 32-bit color. Nobody seems to want to share exactly what they've done to accomplish it, and my search for answers has just led me around one gigantic circle jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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