Demand for Windows 7 RC will crush Microsoft Servers


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Does anyone know what time GMT the file will be only or is that still unknown?

With patches they usually release them in the afternoon, don't see why it would be any different for this.

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Well the beta for example was up around 12 pm if I remember correctly or maybe that was the time I finally got a unique key. So that's not the afternoon and of course I want to be in the midst of all the excitement and the servers going down so would like to know the time.

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I don't think you got it, Calum. They would seed it themselves, and they could even track it on a 1st party BitTorrent tracker.

You're right, I didn't get it :D If they seed the torrent from their website, then no I wouldn't see a problem in that. I have a hard time trying to figure out why they don't do that to be honest.

Does anyone know what time GMT the file will be only or is that still unknown?

The release candidate went up at 2pm GMT on the 30th for Technet and MSDN subscribers, so maybe it'll be around 2pm GMT again for the public?

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One of our Microsoft Partners said that hackers can tamper with builds and put them on torrent websites, so I just wouldn't trust torrent websites ;) Microsoft's official website will have a build which hasn't been tampered with for sure.

Exactly. Right now any torrent is not official and therefore should be treated with caution - simple, we all know that. If Microsoft did make an official torrent, however, users may start downloading any torrent, regardless of whether it is the official Microsoft one or unofficial, ignoring the possible dangers of the unofficial torrents.

So it's much easier for Microsoft to keep the official download system seperate from unofficial downloads and highlight the obvious than trying to advice users of the differences between two apparently similar torrents.

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Well... i became impatient for May 5 release since i heard that release on technet and msdn was giving slow speeds and server issues to downloaders. I had also previously faced same problem for beta release. The experience was quite bad when i had to wait for key :(

Just went and grabbed one on p2p. The SHA1 hash matches the details released on technet download link. So does that the unofficial download may be tampered but have same hash value as official release? :rolleyes:

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Exactly. Right now any torrent is not official and therefore should be treated with caution - simple, we all know that. If Microsoft did make an official torrent, however, users may start downloading any torrent, regardless of whether it is the official Microsoft one or unofficial, ignoring the possible dangers of the unofficial torrents.

So it's much easier for Microsoft to keep the official download system seperate from unofficial downloads and highlight the obvious than trying to advice users of the differences between two apparently similar torrents.

I never thought of that, that makes sense to me as a reason :)

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Why no Mini-torrent-client then? Blizzard does this with great success for World of Warcraft. They can add some HTTP torrent peers to make sure everyone gets a decent speed, then P2P does the rest. For such a big release any P2P > no P2P as their servers WILL die.

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Why no Mini-torrent-client then? Blizzard does this with great success for World of Warcraft. They can add some HTTP torrent peers to make sure everyone gets a decent speed, then P2P does the rest. For such a big release any P2P > no P2P as their servers WILL die.

oh please no, everyone in Australia hates how Blizzard does it. most of us are on a 12GB internet plan (its $40 for 600mb here!) an every time there is a patch for WoW we end up losing half our usage on just uploading the file to other people.

its not so much a problem with me because im on 30gb (largest download u can get from the main providers here) but most people in Australia cringe at torrents.... unless they can control how much they are seeding, yeah us Aussie are the ones not seeding :(

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I agree dafin, but its worse for sattelite people.

Apparently, because the "exchange" is too far away (we are like, 10 meters out of range, wtf?) we have to get sattelite.

1 gig for $59.99 here.

10 gig for $200 a month? i dont think so!

Now, think about this.

I used to play wow. I was on the PTR. I downloaded the 3.1 patch when it was on there. Wasted all my download. so for the whole month wow was a b****.

This month, we found out someone hacked our router (security on it, of course). So in 3 days, someone downloaded more than 1.7 gig.

So I have to go through another month without fast internet (0.1kb/s isnt fast!)

:no:

I hate torrents :(

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They wouldn't be able to control when the downloads stop. Plus, they wouldn't want to use the same method of transport as pirates...

Doesn't it get tiring when people like this ^ eat up what the media gives them? How can a network protocol be associated with piracy? Get that out of your head. All that "reality" proves is that BitTorrent is the most efficient protocol at sharing large files.

Blizzard uses it for WoW. mind = blown ?

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One of our Microsoft Partners said that hackers can tamper with builds and put them on torrent websites, so I just wouldn't trust torrent websites ;) Microsoft's official website will have a build which hasn't been tampered with for sure.

l0l

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Giving Windows RC away only does wonders for MS. I can imagine many frustrated netbook users downloading and installing copies on their machines along with the common 'Joe' exclaiming that their IT and computer literate friends says that Windows 7 is great, so they're going to try it, because it's free. When Windows 7 rolls around people will inevitably upgrade based on such positive experiences. And people like 'trying before buying'. (It sounds like RC is stable enough for everyday usage and almost eligible for production use)

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Doesn't it get tiring when people like this ^ eat up what the media gives them? How can a network protocol be associated with piracy? Get that out of your head. All that "reality" proves is that BitTorrent is the most efficient protocol at sharing large files.

Blizzard uses it for WoW. mind = blown ?

So you expect MS to believe that torrents are not used for sharing copyrighted material. Good luck. ;)

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will I be able to use the RC until win7 release and then pay the cost for the full price OS and continue to use it but it will be the final version.

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They wouldn't be able to control when the downloads stop. Plus, they wouldn't want to use the same method of transport as pirates...

That is an amusing argument, would kinda be like Americans saying "We won't fly on the Boeing 767 any more because terrorists flew them into buildings". Bittorrent is just a tool. It wasn't designed with ill intent, it is just abused for ill intent

So you expect MS to believe that torrents are not used for sharing copyrighted material. Good luck. ;)

Everyone knows that bittorrent can be used for illegal purposes but that really makes no difference whatsoever, it can be used as a distribution medium, and it takes a lot of load off of their web servers.

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That is an amusing argument, would kinda be like Americans saying "We won't fly on the Boeing 767 any more because terrorists flew them into buildings". Bittorrent is just a tool. It wasn't designed with ill intent, it is just abused for ill intent

Everyone knows that bittorrent can be used for illegal purposes but that really makes no difference whatsoever, it can be used as a distribution medium, and it takes a lot of load off of their web servers.

I'm not debating the usefulness of torrents or their malicious intent in *some* cases. The point is that many people see torrents as *one* of the methods of piracy. I'm not saying that's what torrents were invented for, but that is a large amount of what they are right now. And I honestly can't see MS doing something which they also wouldn't have control over (and of course, those who see torrents as exclusively piracy will call MS a hypocrite). Yes, it would be an excellent idea to take the load off their servers, but the idea of proclaiming *massive demand* for the new OS wouldn't be too much of a pain either. ;)

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