carmatic Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 hey guys, is there a place online where i can view the notices that apple sends to people to say that their app didnt make it into the app store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milofoxburr Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I don't think Apple allow Developers to reveal why their application was rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 isnt there such a thing as a place online where they can annonymously submit their rejection notices, and where the person who runs the site will review and comment on each case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted May 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2009 I don't think Apple allow Developers to reveal why their application was rejected. I don't think that's true anymore. isnt there such a thing as a place online where they can annonymously submit their rejection notices, and where the person who runs the site will review and comment on each case? What good would they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 What good would they do? It would expose apple's dodgy practises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 It would expose apple's dodgy practises Their store, their rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Their store, their rules... Of course it's the only way to install apps legally on their Phone OS. if MS only allowed you to install WinMo apps from their new marketplace store, they'd have the antitrust guys all over their ass. not to mention if the regular desktop windows only allowed you to install MS verified apps. you COULD argue that it's different with a phone, but as long as Apple claims it's a smart phone, it's not different. Either allow "everything" though the App store, or allow people to install apps from other sources without jailbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acnpt Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 It would expose apple's dodgy practises They stop poorly coded/designed applications, and obscene content as they don't currently have an adult section. Whats dodgy about that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They stop poorly coded/designed applications, and obscene content as they don't currently have an adult section.Whats dodgy about that?? They also stop any app that could remotely compete with their own. and even apps that added features they haven't officially added yet but wich could possibly compete with future official upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted May 11, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 11, 2009 They also stop any app that could remotely compete with their own.and even apps that added features they haven't officially added yet but wich could possibly compete with future official upgrades. lol "compete". Apple's apps are free, they do it to avoid confusion. They're not even that strict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 if MS only allowed you to install WinMo apps from their new marketplace store, they'd have the antitrust guys all over their ass. No, they wouldn't. Windows Mobile (fortunately) doesn't hold a "monopoly" on Mobile operating systems. Neither does Mobile OSX. Apple can make all the rules they want on their store. You're not forced to use it, and iPhones are just a drop in the mobile phone ocean. I can easily choose other brands and install software from other places if I want to. And I do. I'm happy with my Nokia phone. I'm also happy with my iPod Touch. I'm able to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 No, they wouldn't. Windows Mobile (fortunately) doesn't hold a "monopoly" on Mobile operating systems. Neither does Mobile OSX.Apple can make all the rules they want on their store. You're not forced to use it, and iPhones are just a drop in the mobile phone ocean. I can easily choose other brands and install software from other places if I want to. And I do. I'm happy with my Nokia phone. I'm also happy with my iPod Touch. I'm able to choose if you have an iPhone, you actually do. It really doesn't matter how small they are or aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Like I said, there's no monopoly in the cellphone OS business. I'm not forced to use an iPhone and as such I'm not influenced by their rules. I can easily go elsewhere as both a user/developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 lol "compete". Apple's apps are free, they do it to avoid confusion. They're not even that strict. Apple being apple, I doubt that somehow. Funny thing is though, if Microsoft where doing the same thing they'd get slaughtered. Cos it's apple everyone defends them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 They stop poorly coded/designed applications, and obscene content as they don't currently have an adult section.Whats dodgy about that?? Some of the worst applications I own are big-name applications. Super Monkey Ball was one of their demo apps before the SDK even shipped and it is by far the slowest, crashiest, and unfun games I've played on the thing. Blocking "obscene" content like say a link to an album that Apple sells on their store is ridiculous. Apple's store policies are bad. I have a hard time thinking up anything good about them when compared to the "do whatever the hell you want" policy of Android etc. I know a fair bit about iPhone dev having gotten to play around with it at work (for building in-house corporate apps, not stuff for mass consumption) and I've toyed with the idea of creating a couple of my favorite childhood games. Ultimately Apple's nonsense policies have sapped any desire I've had to dedicate any effort at writing for their platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Btw they will accept obscene content when iPhone OS 3.0 ships. Parental control will be included and it'll make it possible to block explicit apps. A new "mature" section will be added to the store. That eliminates a good 25% of the apps Apple blocks currently ;-) Btw if your app is well coded and all, just submit it and 99% of the time it's not lost. They will give constructive feedback like "too explicit" or something. Then you follow their instructions and fix what's bad. There's so many apps that were accepted, I don't know why you're even asking :p There's like 5 apps out of like 10 000 that were mediatized on the Internet. I don't see what the fuss is all about. Making an alternative browser with no new feature to differenciate it is not needed, making an app with farts sounds either, and a dead baby shaker either. Edited May 14, 2009 by PsykX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 tbh i wish apple were a little bit stricter. one thing i love is a well made app - you can usually see this in it's UI following the theme of the OS and not looking like it dropped out of mspaint but generally alot of apps are like this. i'd also like apple to block apps that hang for more than a few seconds when performing the tasks. i mean seriously, i have fourtrack which is supremely complex and it does everything instantly yet i have a third party picture viewer which takes a few seconds to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Making an alternative browser with no new feature to differenciate it is not needed, making an app with farts sounds either, and a dead baby shaker either. No, it may indeed not be *needed* but some browsers (for example Opera mini which was refused entry into the app store) actually compress data before delivery to the end user, which would save people without unlimited data plans a heck of a lot of money. Because Apple make money from data usage as well as the sale of the phones by the network, they are profiteering and making things harder for end users who actually want to reduce their spending. The whole aura of the iPhone is just a complete rip off in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Because Apple make money from data usage as well as the sale of the phones by the network Source? I've been pretty diligent watching their SEC filings and I don't see anything in the "subscription based accounting" for the iPhone that would lead me to believe this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 iphone is on at&t, forcing data to be used through 3g by blocking their access to wifi and bluetooth makes people more likely to switch to an unlimited plan, and that guarantees income for at&t theres a chart that ive seen that the iphone is dominating in terms of data usage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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