mayamaniac Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 If anyone on the Windows Updates team see this, can you not make Windows auto restart after auto updates? I was in the middle of installing a game and windows just restarts without any user input. So it killed my game installer in the middle of installation. This is a bug in my opinion, and it was in Vista too. It should always ask for confirmation to restart or have a setting somewhere to prevent it from auto restarting after an update. Please fix this before Windows 7 ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 It shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted May 17, 2009 Supervisor Share Posted May 17, 2009 Is the existing option to turn it off not good enough for you? It has been around since 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary2MBz Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 This has been happening in XP and I doubt they will change this. Of course if there is a lot of fire about this, they might release a hotfix or an Update to Windows Update (updating the updater, the irony) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descartes Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Is the existing option to turn it off not good enough for you? It has been around since 2002. This is very useful to know, although I'd like it more accessible to the end-user, instead of being sandwiched into the computer management thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think the system is fine the way it works now, but I've noticed in Windows 7 that when you choose to postpone a prompt, you only get three options: 10 minutes, an hour and 4 hours. I think there should be a "never" option after all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted May 17, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2009 As other people have said, Windows 7 doesn't automatically restart just like that - it gives you an option to postpone the restart for 10 minutes, 1 hour or 4 hours (maybe other time limits to, up to 4 hours). Whilst I also think there should be a "never" option, I've never known Windows 7 restart automatically without any user input :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted May 17, 2009 Supervisor Share Posted May 17, 2009 This is very useful to know, although I'd like it more accessible to the end-user, instead of being sandwiched into the computer management thingy I don't think this should be a general option. I want the end users to f****ng apply updates and reboot so that we don't get huge attacks that exploit holes sealed months ago. Really though, I dont' think that the automatic reboot is the problem here, I think the real issue is that the OS should not have to reboot as often as it does, after applying patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayamaniac Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 Is the existing option to turn it off not good enough for you? It has been around since 2002. Thank you for that, really appreciated it. But they shouldn't hide it in gpedit. Is it too much work for them to add these options in Windows Updates settings: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 As other people have said, Windows 7 doesn't automatically restart just like that - it gives you an option to postpone the restart for 10 minutes, 1 hour or 4 hours (maybe other time limits to, up to 4 hours). Whilst I also think there should be a "never" option, I've never known Windows 7 restart automatically without any user input :huh: I updated Windows 7 last night, chose to postpone it at a maximum of 4 hours, when it popped up again it had a 15 Minute countdown until restart - I could then postpone it another 4 hours. Not very handy if you left the computer for a short while ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted May 17, 2009 Supervisor Share Posted May 17, 2009 Thank you for that, really appreciated it. But they shouldn't hide it in gpedit. Is it too much work for them to add these options in Windows Updates settings: Ah, I remember when Mozilla used to get these sorts of complaints for hiding crap in about:config... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted May 17, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2009 I updated Windows 7 last night, chose to postpone it at a maximum of 4 hours, when it popped up again it had a 15 Minute countdown until restart - I could then postpone it another 4 hours. Not very handy if you left the computer for a short while ... Ah, so that is similar to a "never" option then? In fact, I think that is better than a "never" option as it will keep reminding you every 4 hours and you won't forget. It didn't do that in Windows Vista, after the first four hours, I remember it restarting after a countdown and not giving you another option. I've not postponed updates in Windows 7 for 4 hours before so thank you for letting me know :) That's made me happier now, actually :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Certain updates can't be applied while the operating system is running, and equally, certain update are considered critical, for exampe security updates. If you deliver a critical security update that fixes a vulnerability, such as the networking stack vulnerability that conficker exploited, you want that critical update applied ASAP. Microsoft may be getting some stick for automatically applied updates rebooting a computer, but they are saving users from themselves as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayamaniac Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 It is fine that it auto restarts after an update. But when it restarts WITHOUT checking to see if it is safe to do so, to me that is a bug in the software. In my case, I was in the middle of installing a game, and it killed the installer to reboot. Who knows what could've went wrong when the installer is killed like that. I can imagine other scenarios where you are working on some important document, and you forgot to save, and you stepped away for 30 minutes. You come back to the computer and stare at a blank desktop and your unsaved document is no where to be found. That is not how the software should behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Ah, so that is similar to a "never" option then? In fact, I think that is better than a "never" option as it will keep reminding you every 4 hours and you won't forget. It didn't do that in Windows Vista, after the first four hours, I remember it restarting after a countdown and not giving you another option. I've not postponed updates in Windows 7 for 4 hours before so thank you for letting me know :)That's made me happier now, actually :happy: Actually, you could postpone it as long as you wanted under Vista as well, only thing changed as far as I can see is the countdown timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakeshishere Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 The most f**** annoying thing in windows is silly restarts for nonsensical updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KibosJ Subscriber² Posted May 17, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 17, 2009 Actually, you could postpone it as long as you wanted under Vista as well, only thing changed as far as I can see is the countdown timer. Vista had the countdown timer after certain updates too, I've seen the countdown in Vista. It is really annoying that it restarts the machine like this. It doesn't save a thing, it just gets on with it. You go make a cup of tea and something to eat and come back to see everything is gone and your PC is sat at the bloody log in screen. At least office autosaves :p Thank god for this feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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