George P Global Moderator Posted May 18, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2009 Since they're trying to work together their business plans.. Their Windows 7 deals don't come out of a monkey with a magic ball. And MS's deal with Dell over OEM licensing has ZERO to do with whatever prices MS decides to use for RETAIL. So no, Dell doesn't have a clue what MS will charge for retail full and upgrade prices. That part is none of Dells business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I really hope it isn't more expensive than Vista but that seems inevitable. The OEM price of Vista has increased since launch (despite the retail price dropping), so now that they have a positive image behind it they're not going to suddenly drop the price. However, because of the added features in Win 7 Professional I don't need the Ultimate version for Windows Backup, so perhaps it will end up about the same price I paid. I dunno, I still think Microsoft is a bit out of touch with the market place - there really isn't a need for so many different versions: just Home and Professional would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Vista is lightyears above XP No it isn't. And neither is 7. There are some improvements in 7...especially in their 64bit version.(as compared to xp 64) But there are many things that simply do not work as well...and require extra work to do the same job. (I'll run now to don my flak jacket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craybox Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I think MS owe it to users to sell it for the same price as Vista maybe less but certainly no more. Users are already getting stuffed with all the version of the damn thing that will be available. Why can't they just have a Home version and a Pro version and be done with it. As a tech user it bewilders me all the different versions, so how the hell is the end users supposed to know what the hell they are getting for their money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) No it isn't. And neither is 7.There are some improvements in 7...especially in their 64bit version.(as compared to xp 64) But there are many things that simply do not work as well...and require extra work to do the same job. (I'll run now to don my flak jacket) such as Edited May 18, 2009 by skynetXrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 when Windows Vista first released i saw it going for 500 dollars at office depot...If Windows 7 is going to be more expensive, I dont know too many people that will have the money for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geranium_Z__NL Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 dont worry i got the money :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+longgonebn Subscriber² Posted May 18, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted May 18, 2009 Yea I am selling my Vista retail box right now, and made Windows 7 my main system, in faith. I am willing and will be able to pay up to 300 to 500 for it. But I am hoping they are wrong and they do the right thing, and make it reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'm not sure what is being discussed here? In the article there is no mention of prices. I just see Dell whining that they'll be paying slightly more for Windows 7 due to additional work that went into it and they are having a huge demand so their ass itches for more money so increasing licensing for Windows 7 bothers them. I mean you can't blame Microsoft. They know they have a great OS on their hands and they are trying to get a return for it. To be perfectly honest this doesn't mean at all that Retail prices will change. All Microsoft is doing is charging corporations that sell hardware with software somewhat higher license for selling their OS. I don't know what that increase is as I must've missed it in the article but I don't think it should affect retail prices. I personally think that Microsoft has been giving these same hardware vendors even great deals and now when MS raises the price, they see that demand for Windows 7 is off the chart and that doesn't sit well with them cause they see huge profits. To me personally, it's a non-issue. I always recommend to people. Just get their TechNet subscription. You not only get all of their OSs and Office and a bunch of other stuff, you get it at like $350 a year (it even dips to $200 something when they give you offers to extend your membership) and you don't really need to keep renewing the subscription in order to keep using the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSpellbinder Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 when Windows Vista first released i saw it going for 500 dollars at office depot...If Windows 7 is going to be more expensive, I dont know too many people that will have the money for that... Especially in the current economic climate. Even at Vista pricing, many can't spare the extra cash. If Win 7 will be higher priced than Vista, I hope it's by a minute amount. Microsoft should be fully aware of the economic situation worldwide. Most economists suggest that the economy may hit bottom as early as late Summer. And with the stock markets being forward-looking economic indicators, this means that the current jobless rate will continue to rise through the beginning of 2010 as the job market is always the last to see the end of any recession/depression. Microsoft would be smart to sell Win 7 at Vista prices, or they might actually lose money with the average end-user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'll wait for the final prices to come out before I make a choice. I'll check out retail, then I'll check out OEM prices. If it's some ridiculous amount for both versions, I wont buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treemonkeys Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Especially in the current economic climate. Even at Vista pricing, many can't spare the extra cash. If Win 7 will be higher priced than Vista, I hope it's by a minute amount. Microsoft should be fully aware of the economic situation worldwide. Most economists suggest that the economy may hit bottom as early as late Summer. And with the stock markets being forward-looking economic indicators, this means that the current jobless rate will continue to rise through the beginning of 2010 as the job market is always the last to see the end of any recession/depression. Microsoft would be smart to sell Win 7 at Vista prices, or they might actually lose money with the average end-user. In the current economic climate? Do you offer to pay more when your shopping at a store that is hurting because of the current economic climate? The problems with the economy are only going to be more reason for them to charge more, thank the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSpellbinder Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) In the current economic climate? Do you offer to pay more when your shopping at a store that is hurting because of the current economic climate? The problems with the economy are only going to be more reason for them to charge more, thank the government. What? No I don't offer to pay more at the grocery store. Which is why I said Microsoft would be wise to sell Win 7 at Vista prices rather than going to a higher price as many in the industry are speculating at the moment. The higher the price, the smaller the number of units purchased. That's my opinion anyway. Edited May 18, 2009 by UncleSpellbinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_crabman Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 when Windows Vista first released i saw it going for 500 dollars at office depot... There are always extreme examples. What version was it? And did anybody really buy it there? Because even Ultimate didn't cost nearly that much if you looked around a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 and MS whats to know why people pirate the OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Ms has to make up their Loss from vista somehow but if its to high, i have authorization to use one of the LVK's we will get in the Action Packs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSpellbinder Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I have no idea how accurate this is, but... Microsoft has just announced the editions or SKUs that will be available for sales and purchase for Windows 7, without any official pricing details yet. But, a German website, windows-secrets.de has leaked the non-binding Windows 7 price recommendations for dealers and OEMs. The Microsoft recommended retail price for various editions or SKUs of Windows 7: Windows 7 Starter Edition: USD $199.95 Windows 7 Home Premium Edition: USD $259.95 Windows 7 Professional Edition: USD $299.95 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition: USD $319.95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendando Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Starter edition is 200$? *Chokes on sandwich* WTF. No chance. Starter is like the crap mopped up off of the slaughterhouse floor. I don't even understand why they created, let alone what idiots think they'll sell it too at 200! Free - 70$ for Starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted May 18, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2009 Starter edition is 200$? *Chokes on sandwich* WTF. No chance. Starter is like the crap mopped up off of the slaughterhouse floor. I don't even understand why they created, let alone what idiots think they'll sell it too at 200! Free - 70$ for Starter. Someone just made prices up, because MS said in the past starter would always be sub $100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_crabman Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I have no idea how accurate this is, but... That's really old and there was no proof at all. I'm pretty sure there is a long thread about this somewhere on this forum. Total BS imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 There are always extreme examples. What version was it? And did anybody really buy it there? Because even Ultimate didn't cost nearly that much if you looked around a little. Windows Vista was 500.00US dollars at Office depot when it first released. no bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 if it's more than vista, they are ripping us off! 7 = polished vista, point blank! don't forget we are talking about micro$oft here, nothing is reasonable. People seemingly had no problem paying for Windows XP, which was nothing more than a "polished 2000." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted May 18, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted May 18, 2009 MS could very well shock us and go lower. If they see that they have this huge demand, lower prices will mean more sales at retail. They'll get the OEM sales regardless, so I don't see why not. $50 for starter $100 for home $150 for pro $200 for biz $250 for Ultimate. And just slot in the upgrade version between those prices and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrambo Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 For number of improvements over Vista is freaking rip off and btw Upgrade is not an option cause it's just waste of time...it never does right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 MS could very well shock us and go lower. If they see that they have this huge demand, lower prices will mean more sales at retail. They'll get the OEM sales regardless, so I don't see why not.$50 for starter $100 for home $150 for pro $200 for biz $250 for Ultimate. And just slot in the upgrade version between those prices and call it a day. ? Vista Business is being superceded by 7 Professional. There isn't going to be a 7 Business SKU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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