Sethos Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 MS: Achievements boost salesTuesday 19-May-2009 9:02 AM Good achievements drive game sales Microsoft's Stephen Toulouse reckons that good wholesome gaming achievements actually can, and do, drive game sales. "It's been statistically shown that games that have achievements and implement them well sell better," Toulouse stated in the Major's podcast. We're all for good achievements but we're not sure we'd buy a game knowing that it's got good achievements in it? What about you? Source: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=215267 I posted this more as a discussion topic, what do you guys reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I really don't understand the obsession with achievements, why do people care so much about a meaningless number? I enjoy achievements that are going to be fun and extend the life of a game, but I would never bother attempting to get boring ones. They probably do boost sales though, I know loads of people who have bought crappy games (King Kong, Amped, Fifa; RTWC, NBA2k6) purely to get the 1000/1000 gamerscore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Cat Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't know about everyone else, but I don't care about achievements. I buy games for the game itself not some e-penis enhancement... I know some people go rather excessive over collecting them and I don't understand why, but then I never really played well with others :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted May 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 19, 2009 Achievements are best when they are put in to add extra challenges to games. Things that you would not normally do by just playing though the campaign and moving on to the next game. It adds value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S00N3R FR3AK Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Achievements are best when they are put in to add extra challenges to games. Things that you would not normally do by just playing though the campaign and moving on to the next game. It adds value for money. Yeah there are things I would have never bothered with had it not been for achievements. Like in bad company theres a achievement for hitting a helicopter with the airstrike tool and I managed to do it in the last mission.(Because thats all I had left lol) Yeah some people take it pretty far by buying or renting every game I just like getting everything from games I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 When I'm buying a game I don't think "Oh, I can get the achivements on this easy!", but I do try and get them all to add replayability. I've only got all the achievements on a few games, though. I prefer games with more realistic achievements, like Bioshock. I think they're fun to try and get, personally. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KJ Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I enjoyed the Half-Life 2 Episode 2 achievements. They were challenging but fun. The gnome one was difficult especially the driving scenes. But I really haven't strived for any achievements after that game (my first 360 game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted May 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted May 19, 2009 crackdown has had some of the best achievments in any game ive played speaking of, where the heck is crackdown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mail Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If I like a game then I'll go for the achievements even then I cba doing the ridiculously hard ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I play a game first and foremost because of the game itself. I don't even look at the achievements for a game I've played until I've beaten it at least once. Then, if I enjoyed it I may go back and try to get some/all of the achievements. But I definitely have not, and most likely will not ever play a game based solely on its achievements. That's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashing Pumpkin Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I like to get the achievements on halo the most, just so I can keep up with my friends although I know it doesn't really matter. Even so, I am trying to get 50exp in the Social Big Team Battle to get an achiement, even though it is just ****ing me off cos' every other player in the big battles is the kind of person who will betray you, mess around, quit, throw grenades at a warthog if he can see you're going to get to the drivers seat first, kill you when you are about the capture the flag so they can get the point. IT'S A TEAM GAME! Honestly the other day I had to carry an enemy flag across a map dodging bullets from 8 enemies and 7 friendlies! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted May 19, 2009 MVC Share Posted May 19, 2009 There is definitely something to achievements, MS really nailed that one. You know you've done something right when the competition follows your example (Sony) and I have no doubt that trophies probably help some sales in respect just like the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1406 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Achievements are best when they are put in to add extra challenges to games. Things that you would not normally do by just playing though the campaign and moving on to the next game. It adds value for money. Yeah there are things I would have never bothered with had it not been for achievements. Yeah some people take it pretty far by buying or renting every game I just like getting everything from games I like. There is definitely something to achievements, MS really nailed that one. You know you've done something right when the competition follows your example (Sony) and I have no doubt that trophies probably help some sales in respect just like the 360. QFT. Nothing else to say really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remysaus Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 When I'm buying a game I don't think "Oh, I can get the achivements on this easy!", but I do try and get them all to add replayability. I've only got all the achievements on a few games, though. I prefer games with more realistic achievements, like Bioshock.I think they're fun to try and get, personally. To each his own. exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InPCHell Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I love Achievements. Normally, I'd play a game like COD:WaW once. I'd finish it and never play it again. With Achievements, it actually helps me get my money's worth because I actually want to go back and finish it on harder difficulties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't personally buy games for the sole purpose of adding to my gamerscore tally, but it's obvious a large number of people do. However, I do agree that they certainly extend the life of a game and add to the enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 man, that means that there are more obsessive compulsive disordered people in this world than i realize?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokthraka Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I love achivments there are things I would have never even known I could do if it wasnt for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauhaus Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 man, that means that there are more obsessive compulsive disordered people in this world than i realize?? You just hit the nail on the head. Many companies exploits our obsessions, lacks and disorders to make profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexcyn Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I hate to say it but ... it's true. If there's a game that is out on the PS3 and XBOX, I will get the XBOX just for the live component and the acheivements lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treemonkeys Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 man, that means that there are more obsessive compulsive disordered people in this world than i realize?? No... it just gives you more goals in the game and therefore more replay value, you don't have to be obsessive compulsive to enjoy achievements. Weather you are trying to get the "achievement unlocked" to show up on the screen or just trying to finish the game and get to the "game over" screen, it's all the same really. Ultimately you are just jumping through hoops for the sake of seeing certain pixels on the screen, neither action is profitable, all that matters is that it is fun. Most people enjoy the process more than the end result. It's not just xbox/PS3 either, Steam has achievements now, so does World of Warcraft and probably all future Blizzard games, there will be more in a year or two. Achievements are here to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I hate to say it but ... it's true. If there's a game that is out on the PS3 and XBOX, I will get the XBOX just for the live component and the acheivements lol. That is true, the achievements are definitely a weighing factor when it comes to multi-platform titles. I don't really care for Trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coresx Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 There is definitely something to achievements, MS really nailed that one. You know you've done something right when the competition follows your example (Sony) and I have no doubt that trophies probably help some sales in respect just like the 360. Valve as well. I like achievements but only when it's fun ones. I play through the game as I normally do and enjoy it. Achievements add another level of replayability and fun depending what they are. Some devs get it right others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InPCHell Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I have a PS3 as well, but Trophies just aren't the same as Achievements for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 i am guessing achievements are a way to make a game social, without making it multiplayer but they occupy only a niche in the gameplay, they are strictly 'extra' and they dont contribute to the game, i mean like no game is designed around achievements ...i think why it drives sales is because people see other people playing the game and doing these achievements, and they feel that its more relevant to them in the real world that they are able to match the people who they just saw doing the achievement, as opposed to a challenge set within the game world... the only thing cooler would be to have a console equivalent of Fraps capturing the the moment of achievement so you could upload it to youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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