Halo: Reach?


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Well you sounded pretty angry and were quoting me, so I thought I'd ask.

Nah man, it's all cool, this is a forum and we share opinions. A difference in opinions does not make (or it shouldnt) make anyone enemies nor is a reason to be angry :p

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It could Peter Jackson's 'Halo Chronicles' renamed...

It was on hold until this year, and it's been 3 years since they mentioned anything about it.

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It's funny how one talks about "milking" then brings up something like Valve games. *cough*

Either way, I only played the first halo at this point and I liked it. I don't see where the hate comes, but then I don't overhype games in general. I like what I like, so to each their own.

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It's funny how one talks about "milking" then brings up something like Valve games. *cough*

Either way, I only played the first halo at this point and I liked it. I don't see where the hate comes, but then I don't overhype games in general. I like what I like, so to each their own.

Huh? How on earth does Valve milk their franchises? They are known for taking forever on their games.

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I ratter have Valve or the defuncts Looking Glass or Ion Storm (The Warren Spector wing, not Romero's).

Juste because there are worst shooters doesnt make Halo a good one, again in my opinion. "Inclution by Exclution" doesnt work here for me.

Meh I don't see why people think Valve makes good games/shooters even. they're pretty damn average.

As for Halo, I never cared all too much about Halo 1 and 2, but Halo 3 I thought had a good story I wanted to follow. Somethign I can't claim for any Valve game.

It's funny how many people hate Halo just because it's Halo while they've never actually played it though.

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The cow is dry by now. Since the second game there is only powdered milk. The first one wasnt even that good, in my opinion.

I actually thought that Halo 1 was a great game, although I was very young then (im 18) I thought it was good. The second game I never really got into only cared about the multiplayer. Halo 3 though is a very well polished game. I LOVED the campaign it had a very good ending. They can milk my mom all they want, ODST I'll buy and if this is a new Halo game coming out and seems like it'll be good they can have that set of money too.

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It's funny how many people hate Halo just because it's Halo while they've never actually played it though.

Funny, I have played them all. Next assumption? ;)

They can milk my mom all they want

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Wouldn't mind actually experiencing it in game rather than just reading the book. I wonder which Character will they base it on.

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oh! Come on! Im the only one in this thread that dislikes the game :p

not really, and I'm not meaning just this thread, in general.

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Huh? How on earth does Valve milk their franchises? They are known for taking forever on their games.

Heh, well that's a different story, but milk, yes they do. Look at half-life. Sure there is HL1 and 2, but shall we count all the "expansions" and now episodes?

HL1 had 2 or maybe 3 expansion games iirc, then HL2, which also has 2 "episodes" with a 3rd in the works right?

The shear idea of doing series episodes is the peak of game milking when you get right down to it.

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Heh, well that's a different story, but milk, yes they do. Look at half-life. Sure there is HL1 and 2, but shall we count all the "expansions" and now episodes?

HL1 had 2 or maybe 3 expansion games iirc, then HL2, which also has 2 "episodes" with a 3rd in the works right?

The shear idea of doing series episodes is the peak of game milking when you get right down to it.

You have to be joking.

The episodes were created because of the fans wishes for having more regular singleplayer games from Valve instead of having to wait 5-10 years for their next game. Not to mention their episodes cost $20-$30.

So, hardly milking when the episodes add up to the same cost as a single retail game.

(And, for the record, I am not saying Bungie milks Halo.)

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So, hardly milking when the episodes add up to the same cost as a single retail game.

And each episode takes longer to develop than most retail games :laugh:

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You have to be joking.

The episodes were created because of the fans wishes for having more regular singleplayer games from Valve instead of having to wait 5-10 years for their next game. Not to mention their episodes cost $20-$30.

So, hardly milking when the episodes add up to the same cost as a single retail game.

(And, for the record, I am not saying Bungie milks Halo.)

Me the one joking? Hardly.

Fans always wish for more of their fav franchise, that's a given, still many devs don't keep making more all the time. Many go 3 and out or just do one.

And bringing cost into this, how does that change anything? Sure episodes are a bit shorter than an original full game, but the idea behind milking is that you keep doing more and more. Length of each episode doesn't come into play. It's not like some map pack or something. Each episode can be looked at as a new part to the story thus another game.

If you wanna add up the cost of the 2 half-life eps and say the equal the cost of HL2 then fine, I guess we can call those HL3 then? Either way the eps are sold cheaper because it's all done digital through steam, also the game engine used is for the most part the same one, sure it'll be sold for less.

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That would be awesome! the book was epic and I reckon it would make an awesome game (even if it's based around another Spartan - as Bungie said no more Master Chief). If this is real, I'd buy it in an instant :happy: (along with ODST of cause!).

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Me the one joking? Hardly.

Fans always wish for more of their fav franchise, that's a given, still many devs don't keep making more all the time. Many go 3 and out or just do one.

And bringing cost into this, how does that change anything? Sure episodes are a bit shorter than an original full game, but the idea behind milking is that you keep doing more and more. Length of each episode doesn't come into play. It's not like some map pack or something. Each episode can be looked at as a new part to the story thus another game.

If you wanna add up the cost of the 2 half-life eps and say the equal the cost of HL2 then fine, I guess we can call those HL3 then? Either way the eps are sold cheaper because it's all done digital through steam, also the game engine used is for the most part the same one, sure it'll be sold for less.

You really need to do some research before you start talking out your rear.

The Half-Life 2 episodes ARE intended to be Half-Life 3. It's been said repeatedly by the Valve staff, including Gabe Newell. And, yes, the episodes are sold cheaper and they are also sold through retail as well, so your argument of being sold through Steam holds absolutely no water. Not to mention almost all Steam games are sold for the same amount as they are at retail (not including their "Steam Deals"). I have no clue what bringing up the engine has to do with anything, as Halo 1 and Halo 2 both used the same engine, and Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST are using the same engine.

You may not want to talk about a subject you clearly have no clue about. The idea behind milking, yes, is that you're trying to nickel and dime fans for their money. But if you're selling new installments for cheaper, how is that milking? It's the equivalent of the Half-Life series getting a new full game (as the episodes combined could be considered) every 5 years. That, my friend, is not milking.

The person said Halo was being milked because of the leapfrog strategy being used by Microsoft, I'm sure, in which a Halo game is released every other year at least. Not to mention that we've had Halo (and the PC port), Halo 2 (and its PC port), Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, in a 8 year span, in addition to the map packs. Now, personally, I don't think that Halo has been milked that bad, but that's what the aforementioned poster was referring to.

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You really need to do some research before you start talking out your rear.

The Half-Life 2 episodes ARE intended to be Half-Life 3. It's been said repeatedly by the Valve staff, including Gabe Newell. And, yes, the episodes are sold cheaper and they are also sold through retail as well, so your argument of being sold through Steam holds absolutely no water. Not to mention almost all Steam games are sold for the same amount as they are at retail (not including their "Steam Deals"). I have no clue what bringing up the engine has to do with anything, as Halo 1 and Halo 2 both used the same engine, and Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST are using the same engine.

You may not want to talk about a subject you clearly have no clue about. The idea behind milking, yes, is that you're trying to nickel and dime fans for their money. But if you're selling new installments for cheaper, how is that milking? It's the equivalent of the Half-Life series getting a new full game (as the episodes combined could be considered) every 5 years. That, my friend, is not milking.

The person said Halo was being milked because of the leapfrog strategy being used by Microsoft, I'm sure, in which a Halo game is released every other year at least. Not to mention that we've had Halo (and the PC port), Halo 2 (and its PC port), Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, in a 8 year span, in addition to the map packs. Now, personally, I don't think that Halo has been milked that bad, but that's what the aforementioned poster was referring to.

I didn't bring cost into the mix, since the eps are shorter sure they'll be cheaper is what I said. And originally they were meant to release the episodes faster, the fact it takes them forever now somehow doesn't mean they're milking it?

And on top of that you wanna count the PC ports of Halo as well? Well Orange box is on the 360 as well, so lets count those versions also?

If the half-life 2 episodes are suppose to be concidered as half-life 3 then how many of said eps make it up? 3? 4? Say it's 3eps, at $20 a pop that's $60, same as a full game. If it's more eps then cost goes higher.

Cutting up the game and selling it in parts doesn't somehow make it less of a milking job imo. You seem to think that because they're cheaper it doesn't count. Had valve stuck to their original ep every 6 months or w/e their original plans was when eps where first talked about, would that change your thinking?

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Oh. My God.

And you just said exactly what I've been saying all along -- that the 3 episodes make up a full game. Had they stuck with the plan, no, it would not have changed my thinking because it would've been the equivalent of the next full game in the Half-Life series coming out 3 1/2 years after its predecessor. Not every other year.

How can you say you didn't bring cost into the mix when you do it yet again by saying cutting up and selling it in part isn't any different? And I don't disagree with you -- it's not. That's what I've been saying all along. I'm glad got it.

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