jonhapimp Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Patrick Soderlund, Senior VP of EA Games Europe, says that the 360 has been 'maxed out' but PlayStation3 hasn't been.Advertisement: Soderlund's comments came during E3, as he spoke to OXM about Microsoft's E3 presence. "I like the Natal," he says. "That's cool. It's an interesting device, so I'm truly impressed by Xbox. It's my personal favourite console... I think Microsoft is on a roll right now. They're doing really well. If I was Sony, I would have a headache, to be honest." However, he then goes on to say "Sony has a lot of good games this year. If you go to their booth, there's a very consistent, high quality product line-up and that will help them. I do think that we'll see developers inside the organisation getting to understand the PS3 better and I think that we're getting more power out of PS3 right now... I think that we've maxed out the 360 but we haven't maxed out the PS3." http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=11181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Of course the ps3 hasnt been maxed out it has a "10 year" life span... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phemo Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Now before anyone says I'm an EA basher, I'm not. I like EA and have bought many of their titles and enjoyed them. However, I wouldn't say that any of their 360 titles are particularly graphically impressive. Sure, some look pretty good but there's nothing amazing there and I've definitely seen better, graphically, from other devs. As a result, as much as I respect EA, I hardly think they're the best game developer to be able to claim the 360 is "maxed out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Hasn't it been common knowledge for about 5-6 years now that the Cell, let alone the PS3, is one damn powerful unit? It's been rehashed over and over and over. But, until someone finds out how to truly utilize all of that power, who cares? It's like the guy who buys a Porsche and drives in automatic. You can coast along and look great doing it but someone with a little bit less under the hood can outperform you by taking control and realizing the full power potential. To me, that is what the PS3 will be known for: potential. It potentially could have been, potentially should have been, and really it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 of course it hasnt been maxed out, its just so difficult to max out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted June 9, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted June 9, 2009 I like how this is all about one little blurp that basically says "I think". Didn't the guys over at epic say the 360 has more to give as well? So who do you wanna listen to at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 360 is fundamentally limited in the fact that it uses DVD and not Blu-ray... as games inevitably get larger in filesize it becomes harder to store the entire game on one disc. Sure things are moving toward digital downloads but for very large filesizes as seen with games it is preferable to have a disc media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 9, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2009 How many times have we heard this now, and in a few days or a week another developer will step up and say the complete opposite and by xmas we'll have a new game which pushes the hardware even further. Move along, nothing to see here but a sensationalist article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyro Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 when games start to get too big DT, but companies are contracted to put it on that console, they can either delete stuff or improve how they compress the file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 when games start to get too big DT, but companies are contracted to put it on that console, they can either delete stuff or improve how they compress the file either way, thats still a compromise... the 360 was definitely on the losing side of the bluray-hddvd war, and now the ps3 has an edge in terms of storage media... unless the xbox 360 gets a blu ray drive sooner or later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 9, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's going one better and releasing games on XBL. It's only a matter of time before they allow gamers to purchase games on day of release from XBL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyro Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 fair enough, but compressing the data better would mean a larger disk is still not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's going one better and releasing games on XBL.It's only a matter of time before they allow gamers to purchase games on day of release from XBL. Only problem is people aren't paying for the overpriced HDD's MS offers for the 360, and there are A LOT of Arcade 360's out there without an HDD. Then you run into the problem of the many users with Premium 360's with 20GB HDDs...I'm one of those users, but I bought a 120GB WD BEV drive and 4 hours (and many frustrations later :p) I had a 120GB HDD for my 360 that only cost about $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted June 9, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted June 9, 2009 MS very well might just offer a cheaper 120GB hdd, and bring in a new bigger one for the old price of $150. Like a new 200 or 300GB maybe? If they wanna push digital full game downloads, that's the next step they have to take since even 120GB doesn't cut it. And the whole DVD v bluray debate is old, just use more discs? If you're not a fan of getting up for a few sec to change the dvd then that's just you. I don't care if the game is 1 bluray or 4 DVDs as long as it's a good game. And as many have said, compression is getting better and better. h264 video anyone? And texture compression is pretty good as well. There are lots of ways to do it for devs and work around the limits of the 360's DVD media and not have to delete anything from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 compression is improving of course. But I do think MS have, or are about to hit a brick wall with what they can do with the storage medium. developers can't keep compressing content. I think FFXIII is going to be the biggest title to see major differences based merely on the storage medium the game is distributed on. For MS to go for a download only console in its next iteration would be very shortsighted, due to limits put in place by ISP's and customers who don't want to wait a day for a game to download. I think we can safely say that both MS's and Sony's next consoles will include a high speed blu-ray drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp0 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 360 is fundamentally limited in the fact that it uses DVD and not Blu-ray... as games inevitably get larger in filesize it becomes harder to store the entire game on one disc. Sure things are moving toward digital downloads but for very large filesizes as seen with games it is preferable to have a disc media. Well that doesn't really limit it that much at the moment look at Forza 3 that will come on 2 discs, one installs to the harddrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Well that doesn't really limit it that much at the moment look at Forza 3 that will come on 2 discs, one installs to the harddrive. So they are alienating a portion of the 360 userbase...nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kheldorin Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Alot of graphics R&D now are based on DirectX 10 capabilities and usually the DirectX9 work-arounds if any entail a performance drop which may not be affordable given how hard they are already pushing the hardware. So it is probably gonna be difficult to squeeze more performance from the 360. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any sudden increase in interest to optimize for the PS3 either so it's probably gonna be difficult to get the extra performance from both platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 9, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 9, 2009 Regardless of the article you can't deny the PS3 is becoming quite the graphical powerhouse on the exclusives... Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain and God of War 3 look insane. I also think GT5 when unveiled at 1080p/60FPS with improvements since GT5P it will look nuts. Real world results are better than hearsay or assumptions, and there certainly are some real world results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 9, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2009 That has nothing to do with the article AB and pretty much now opens the topic up to another fight over "whose exclusives are better" arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 9, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 9, 2009 That has nothing to do with the article AB and pretty much now opens the topic up to another fight over "whose exclusives are better" arguement. Not really, the PS3 arguably has some of the best looking games on the market so it aids the argument that it's currently being pushed further than the 360 from a graphical stand point. If people want to argue themselves stupid about exclusives till they're foaming at the mouth they can go ahead, it's just my opinion on the graphical power so far, no one needs to agree with me. I believe KZ2 is the most impressive tech on consoles right now, but Uncharted 2 will surpass that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 9, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2009 And in theory anything the PS3 produces graphically, the 360 can match and surpass due to the architecture of xenos vs rsx. All they need is a developer to harness that power. Which leads back to this article being a POS and nothing but flame bait. EA might have maxed out, but EA aren't pick of the crop when it comes to developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 9, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 9, 2009 And in theory anything the PS3 produces graphically, the 360 can match and surpass due to the architecture of xenons vs rsx. All they need is a developer to harness that power.Which leads back to this article being a POS and nothing but flame bait. EA might have maxed out, but EA aren't pick of the crop when it comes to developers. I already said above I'm talking about real world results, I don't care about theory or assumptions or predictions. You're arguing in the exact same way EA are, making assumptions about what the 360 can do based on what's on paper, not what you're actually playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) The Playstation 3 definitely has the graphical edge and will get even further ahead as time progresses. Sadly it's lacking in every other area imaginable thus making a graphical power-house pointless. Edited June 9, 2009 by Sethos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted June 9, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2009 I already said above I'm talking about real world results, I don't care about theory or assumptions or predictions.You're arguing in the exact same way EA are, making assumptions about what the 360 can do based on what's on paper, not what you're actually playing. Then start paying attention to games like Project Offset (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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