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i know im a noob but, i think my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ processor can support 64-bit. im assuming 1gb of RAM is not meant for 64-bit OS's though right?

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Yeah, because EVERYBODY is going to want 64-bit. Seriously, grow up.

lolol. not to mention there really isn't that many programs that actually run in 64 bit...

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i know im a noob but, i think my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ processor can support 64-bit. im assuming 1gb of RAM is not meant for 64-bit OS's though right?

it will work with 64bit.. but you really need atleast 4GB of ram...you probably can get away with 2GB's as i have the same processor and 2 gigs and it runs okay.

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it will work with 64bit.. but you really need atleast 4GB of ram...you probably can get away with 2GB's as i have the same processor and 2 gigs and it runs okay.

Lol. Windows 7 loves 1GB RAM. The difference between x64 and x86 in memory usage is minimal, if your processor supports it go x64.

Really, the 'you need 4GB' statement was never right for Vista and definately not for 7.

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Lol. Windows 7 loves 1GB RAM. The difference between x64 and x86 in memory usage is minimal, if your processor supports it go x64.

Really, the 'you need 4GB' statement was never right for Vista and definately not for 7.

really depends on what your doing with it. if your just browsing and chatting yes, but if your using that 64bit os for photoshop and various other hungry memory apps then no 1GB/2GB is no where enough.

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Lol. Windows 7 loves 1GB RAM. The difference between x64 and x86 in memory usage is minimal, if your processor supports it go x64.

Really, the 'you need 4GB' statement was never right for Vista and definately not for 7.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree, if you have less than 4GB of ram, you need all the ram you get, your ram usage will be higher using the x64 build, that's because it includes processes to run 32-bit applications as well as 64-bit applications. If you don't mind using more ram for Windows, by all means go for it, but if your 3GB or below, stay x86, then upgrade to x64 using your cdkey when your ready.

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64Bit OS is of no use for systems with 4GB ram or below, many websites have done benchmarking between the two and have found little or no improvement whatsoever, in fact systems running 64bit apps will find that RAM usage will be significantly higher than their 32Bit counterpart because of the way memory is allocated.

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Sorry, I respectfully disagree, if you have less than 4GB of ram, you need all the ram you get, your ram usage will be higher using the x64 build, that's because it includes processes to run 32-bit applications as well as 64-bit applications. If you don't mind using more ram for Windows, by all means go for it, but if your 3GB or below, stay x86, then upgrade to x64 using your cdkey when your ready.

Well I've been running x64 for two years now on 2GB RAM, and I didn't notice any performance difference at all (also tried x86).

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Just the well known 'placebo' effect..

I think they can't make Windows 7 any faster then it already is. They are only focussing on bugfixing and hopefully some minor UI changes for the RTM.

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Windows 7 7231 X32 -ISO Rebuild by vasill using 7229 as bootloader

Size 2.29GB

Nova torrent

It originates from tor_ru, and in the comments something interesting,.....maybe a 7232 x64 for the 64 bit lovers??

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Lol. Windows 7 loves 1GB RAM. The difference between x64 and x86 in memory usage is minimal, if your processor supports it go x64.

Really, the 'you need 4GB' statement was never right for Vista and definately not for 7.

The point is that to take advantage of x64 you need at least 4gb of ram. There is no point risking incompatibility with some hardware (as x64 drivers are still harderder to find) if you have 2 or 3gb of ram.

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By the way, for those wondering of a way to install 7231 in its original form (and not from a modified iso). This is how I did it:

1. Attached the vhd in disk management of win 7.

2. Downloaded the trilal version of acronis true image (gives full functionality for 15 days).

3. Used acronis to do full computer backup of the vhd partition.

4. Saved the backup image to an external drive.

5. Finally initiated restore of the saved backup image and chose what partition to restore to (choosing the current c: win7 partition).

The computer restarted and acronis did its thing. The os then set itself up by updating registry, installing device drivers and ultimately gave me the regular screen with user name choice and network setup. It was quick and painless for me. I am sure there are many other ways of achieving the same result, thought I'd share my experience.

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The point is that to take advantage of x64 you need at least 4gb of ram.

Agreed. If there is no speed increase, then there is no point in x64 if you have < 4GB ram.

I installed Vista 64 on a system with 2GB ram just to explore, and it was just a hassle to get apps to work, and like said before, there are more processes running.

Also having 2 separate Program Files folders was a little annoying even though it had to be done.

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Agreed. If there is no speed increase, then there is no point in x64 if you have < 4GB ram.

I installed Vista 64 on a system with 2GB ram just to explore, and it was just a hassle to get apps to work, and like said before, there are more processes running.

Also having 2 separate Program Files folders was a little annoying even though it had to be done.

I thought it has been usually said the other way around, to fully utilize > 4GB of RAM you need a 64-bit operating system. Otherwise, the difference is negligible.

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Yeah, because EVERYBODY is going to want 64-bit. Seriously, grow up.

How about *you* grow up instead, rather than fervently clinging to the past and resisting any change? :pinch:

There's absolutely *no* good reason to use x86 anymore (as long as your Cpu supports 64 bit).

It originates from tor_ru, and in the comments something interesting,.....maybe a 7232 x64 for the 64 bit lovers??

That would be very nice :woot:

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Well I've been running x64 for two years now on 2GB RAM, and I didn't notice any performance difference at all (also tried x86).

Then you don't monitor your ram enough.

i know im a noob but, i think my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ processor can support 64-bit. im assuming 1gb of RAM is not meant for 64-bit OS's though right?

Of course it can support x86-64, the main selling point of the Athlon 64 was the 64-bit OS capability.

Download System Information for Windows, then once it's loaded, go to Hardware, and Memory. Look for "Memory Type" and "Speed". Run over to Newegg and search for a matching memory type, they sell 4GB of ram relatively cheap now, look for 2 x 2GB to ensure you take advantage of your mainboards Dual Channel capabilities.

Just rip that old ram out and put the 2 x 2GB of ram in there.

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There's absolutely *no* good reason to use x86 anymore (as long as your Cpu supports 64 bit).

While that may be true, look at the netbooks we have now. The Intel Atom doesn't support 64bit along with the other VIA CPUs. Any other machine should not need to run 32bit unless they have old hardware and/or drivers not available for 64bit.

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Sorry, I respectfully disagree, if you have less than 4GB of ram, you need all the ram you get, your ram usage will be higher using the x64 build, that's because it includes processes to run 32-bit applications as well as 64-bit applications. If you don't mind using more ram for Windows, by all means go for it, but if your 3GB or below, stay x86, then upgrade to x64 using your cdkey when your ready.

After reading your reply & others in this thread, I decided to find out for myself. FTR, I have been happily running 64 for awhile now, on a dual core machine with 2gb.

First, I took readings, using the Multimeter gadget, on my 64-bit installation. After the x86 version appeared on my hard drive tonight & I installed that and after performing the customizations that I do on every install(to bring it to the same level as my previous 64-bit installation), I compared the memory usage.

As follows:

64-bit: 47% memory used (894mb/1.9gb)

32-bit: 36% memory used (696mb/1.9gb)

And right now with Firefox 3.5 Preview running, it sits at 41% (760mb/1.9gb).

So, I'll stay 32-bit until I get more memory. Which will be in November. :woot:

Thanks for the words of wisdom!!

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