(Spork) Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) atm im running the RC 32 bit of windows 7 but i have been considering upgrading to 64 bit whats the pros and cons Core 2 duo @ 3.00Ghz 2 gigs DDR3 @ 1333 ( i think been a while since i looked it up ) Edited June 20, 2009 by (Spork) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 System configuration would be nice to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted June 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think you should install the 64 bit RC. There's nothing to lose if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 There are already 500 of these threads. Just install it and see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 There are already 500 of these threads. Just install it and see for yourself. There is 501 now no body told you to click on the link im trying to same a lot of time backing up file lol Games / work / pictures / fam vids Etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyehac Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 basically, if you have to ask, then you don't need 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 Good ****ing god did the ******* gates open today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 There is 501 now no body told you to click on the link im trying to same a lot of time backing up file lol Games / work / pictures / fam vids Etc etc Well, my answer is the right one. This is your chance to try a 64-bit OS for free, so why not take it and see what it's like? You're going to have to reinstall in a few months anyway. It's all very subjective, and no one here knows if you might have some obscure piece of hardware or software that doesn't have 64-bit support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxieFoxie Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 System configuration would be nice to know... Why? it's not like ram matters or anything, go with x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 64-bit for sure. Just because you have 2 GB of RAM doesn't mean you shouldn't run 64-bit (it is a common myth that you must have 4 GB of RAM to run 64-bit Windows with decent performance). Unless you have a piece of software which does not work correctly, you have no reason not to run 64-bit Windows. I've run it on everything from machines with 1 GB of RAM to 4 GB of RAM and it's stable regardless, although its sweet spot seems to be 2 GB (this also applies to 32-bit Windows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Good ****ing god did the ******* gates open today ? some people don't have anything better to do, go for the 64 bit, it wouldn't hurt especially if you want to upgrade your ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseiler Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 ? Unless you have a piece of software which does not work correctly, you have no reason not to run 64-bit Windows. I've run it on everything from machines with 1 GB of RAM to 4 GB of RAM and it's stable regardless, although its sweet spot seems to be 2 GB (this also applies to 32-bit Windows). There's no denying though that 64-bit takes more RAM for itself, so the 2GB spot is going to be somewhat less sweet with 64 than 32. And 1? ?That's just shooting yourself in the foot -- "miserly" is the watchword if your system has 1GB, and the last thing you should do is start yourself with a RAM handicap right off the top by using a larger OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted June 20, 2009 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 i am thinking about getting 2 bigger stick of ram in the next few months jumping to 4 gigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 i am thinking about getting 2 bigger stick of ram in the next few months jumping to 4 gigs With that statement right there, go with x64, unless (like someone earlier said) you have some hardware/software that has issues with a 64bit OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YounGMessiah Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I would say go with the 64bit, it seems more reliable(to me); program and games work awesome with this as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (-) You might not have 64-bit compatible drivers for your hardware. (-) Some applications might require drivers to function and if they do not provide 64-bit drivers, they will not work (-) 16-bit is no longer supported, 16-bit applications will not function. (-) Some installers (which install 32-bit applications) might still be (partially) 16-bit and therefore, such applications will not install easily (-) 64-bit Windows Operating Systems use WoW to run 32-bit applications, 32-bit software is not running in a native environment, and might run slightly slower (slightly!). (-) Some applications (made by morons usually) will not run for no good reason aside from not detecting a 32-bit OS. (-) WoW layer requires more resources and therefore your OS install will be slightly bigger and your OS will use slightly (slightly!!) more RAM to run. (+) 64-bit environment supports massive amounts of RAM which allows running multiple RAM-heavy applications at once - such as Photoshop. (Can make a big difference.) (+) 64-bit versions of your programs will function faster than the 32-bit variants. Things like 7-Zip or Photoshop CS4 for example. Depends on the application though. (+) 64-bit is the future, if you have a 64-bit Operating System, you are set for the future :3 (+) 99% of stuff that runs with x32 bit variant of XP/Vista/7 should run on the 64-bit variant of XP/Vista/7. (+) Modern hardware has 64-bit drivers. (*) The only thing, as I see it, that is holding back 64-bit browsers is Adobe. (*) You might have to install 32-bit and 64-bit version of things like Java... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted June 20, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2009 my vote is 64-bit. i think it's easily suitable for the vast majority of people these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted June 20, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted June 20, 2009 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmomoman Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 most things will move to 64 bit in the near future. Most of the systems coming out now are 64bit. I would move that way unless you do not have software that cannot work in 64Bit and it critical for your day to day things. 64bit is more optimized for memory and the newer software not just addressing over 4Gigs. There are more reasons why 64Bit is better. I am sure there are many people here are experts in this area than I :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendaws Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 atm im running the RC 32 bit of windows 7 but i have been considering upgrading to 64 bit whats the pros and cons Core 2 duo @ 3.00Ghz 2 gigs DDR3 @ 1333 ( i think been a while since i looked it up ) I agree with all the positive comments, I have a Core 2 E8400 and I love the 64bit OS. You might as well go with it, 64bit is the future move that everyone will have to make eventually so why not NOW? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 my vote is 64-bit. i think it's easily suitable for the vast majority of people these days. As long as *both* of the following are true, you should upgrade to the 64-bit version of Windows 7 instead of the 32-bit version: 1. You are running Windows Vista (any version above Basic). 2. You have a 64-bit-capable processor (regardless of the number of cores). Note that I did not specify a minimum memory requirement. There's a rather simple and straightforward reason for that - consider that Vista 64-bit required (not recommended) 512 MB of system RAM, and that the requirements didn't increase with Windows 7; further, I've been running Windows 7 on a daily basis with just a single gigabyte of system memory and have performance equal to a previous-generation 32-bit processor with twice the system memory (and I'm not talking out of my hat, as such a system is running Windows 7 32-bit in the house right now). Considering the processor getting roasted is a P4 Northwood-B, and the processor doing the roasting is a Celeron E1200 (at stock, easily the second-wimpiest multicore CPU Intel has ever shipped for desktops; the one advantage it has is that it can be severely overclocked). If you aren't blocked by either your applications or your drivers, the time to leave 32-bit operating systems is when Windows 7 RTMs, if not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujjuman Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 (-) You might not have 64-bit compatible drivers for your hardware.(-) Some applications might require drivers to function and if they do not provide 64-bit drivers, they will not work (-) 16-bit is no longer supported, 16-bit applications will not function. (-) Some installers (which install 32-bit applications) might still be (partially) 16-bit and therefore, such applications will not install easily (-) 64-bit Windows Operating Systems use WoW to run 32-bit applications, 32-bit software is not running in a native environment, and might run slightly slower (slightly!). (-) Some applications (made by morons usually) will not run for no good reason aside from not detecting a 32-bit OS. (-) WoW layer requires more resources and therefore your OS install will be slightly bigger and your OS will use slightly (slightly!!) more RAM to run. (+) 64-bit environment supports massive amounts of RAM which allows running multiple RAM-heavy applications at once - such as Photoshop. (Can make a big difference.) (+) 64-bit versions of your programs will function faster than the 32-bit variants. Things like 7-Zip or Photoshop CS4 for example. Depends on the application though. (+) 64-bit is the future, if you have a 64-bit Operating System, you are set for the future :3 (+) 99% of stuff that runs with x32 bit variant of XP/Vista/7 should run on the 64-bit variant of XP/Vista/7. (+) Modern hardware has 64-bit drivers. (*) The only thing, as I see it, that is holding back 64-bit browsers is Adobe. (*) You might have to install 32-bit and 64-bit version of things like Java... This is a good list of pros and cons. I say try it out and see how you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 most things will move to 64 bit in the near future. Most of the systems coming out now are 64bit. I would move that way unless you do not have software that cannot work in 64Bit and it critical for your day to day things. 64bit is more optimized for memory and the newer software not just addressing over 4Gigs. There are more reasons why 64Bit is better. I am sure there are many people here are experts in this area than I :) For once, future-proofing isn't why you should make the switch; increased stability is why. Even closer to the minimums, when bitness goes up, so does stability. (It's not just true of Windows, either; I've found those comparisons equally true with Linux, Solaris/OpenSolaris, even OS X.) It's not just true of the operating system, either; as the applications and games also move to 64-bit, they are also increasing in terms of stability. (The 64-bit Flash and Java plug-ins for Linux and UNIX actually proved that first; the 64-bit Technical Preview leak of Office 2010 provide even more evidence.) If you hate BSODs or other stability-related crashes, you should move to a 64-bit OS (and as many 64-bit applications as is feasible) ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetaprime Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 If your system is like mine and already has 4 gigs in it and you think you might want to add more, which inevitably you will, you need 64 bit. 32 bit is a dead end. And if you get all settled in with the 32 bit it can't be upgraded to the 64 bit version once you discover that 4 gigs is no longer sufficient. So best to just go 64 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmomoman Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Tt is inevitable 64Bit Processing will take over due to the very facts that you mention. That is the future of OS's. Stability is very key as I have been running 64Bit OS for some time now. Could not stand the fact that drivers were not as common but I made it work. Windows 7 x64 is a breath of fresh air although I had no real problems with Vista 64bit either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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