Israel Security team can bypass your firewall protection?


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I heard that if you install Zone Alarm or any Microsoft Firewall software.... Israel security team can bypass the protection?

I am very suspicious why Microsoft's has launched trail version of anti-virus software to Israel but ignored in the middle-east and Europe.

I know Israel security member can access anyone hotmail account without the password, they obviously work with Microsoft. This happen when one of cousin arrived at Israel Airport with a lot of security check including hotmail.

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It's not true. Microsoft will obviously cooperate with Israeli authorities with regards to specific crimes, but there are no backdoors in Windows or any other Microsoft products. Doing so would get Microsoft products banned in most of the world and send Microsoft bankrupt.

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But, if they wanted too, any country's security forces could easily find any information they wanted about anybody. They are experts in this field; it's what they do.

Tinfoil hat on standby.

But, no, Microsoft are not in league with such authorities.

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Ehh?

I doubt microsoft provides any backdoors, and they probally would have been picked up on anyway.

By Israel Security Team, you mean Mossad, just like the security services of pretty much every country around the world, they can check most kinds of communications.

I know Israel security member can access anyone hotmail account without the password, they obviously work with Microsoft. This happen when one of cousin arrived at Israel Airport with a lot of security check including hotmail.

Explain??

Did they just ask for his email address??

I know security at Israel airports is the best in the world.

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No back doors in Microsoft products.... hmmmm..... Bwwaaahaahaha! Heehehe!! Oh, that's a good one.

What is a good question though, is whether or not any Israeli agencies have their own access in the style of US lettered agencies.

I could have seen accommodations like that being made in the past, but I wonder if they would survive the current administration's priorities. Perhaps benign neglect might spare a prior arrangement. Certainly nothing else is being done pro-actively for traditional US allies this year...

As to back-doors in general, Microsoft products, like several other technologies and companies owe their existence (one way or another) to cooperation with authorities.

Not as proof, but as anecdotal evidence, does anyone else remember the developer "slip" that revealed the agency *.KEY system files, a couple Windows versions ago?

Its business as usual, but it does make one wonder how many players have a hand in by now, and whether foreign powers are included...

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No back doors in Microsoft products.... hmmmm..... Bwwaaahaahaha! Heehehe!! Oh, that's a good one.

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Not as proof, but as anecdotal evidence, does anyone else remember the developer "slip" that revealed the agency *.KEY system files, a couple Windows versions ago?

Yes, which wasn't what you seem to believe it was AT ALL. Windows is in use by governments across the world, has been audited numerous times and comes with full source code. There is no way at all you could hide backdoors in software like this, and doing so would DESTROY Microsoft FOREVER. There would be no more Microsoft. It would be gone overnight. Banned from trading and doing business in all countries on the planet. Gone. Never to return. If the government was involved in it (which you're suggesting they are), it would also be CATASTROPHIC for US foreign relations. It would be a scandal of unprecedented scale, and might very likely even lead to armed conflicts and death.

Conspiracy theories can be fun, but they're just fiction.

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I don't think they have any back doors- but possible outbound traffic sniffing and network traffic capture- to which that can be reproduced to key stroke analysis and get your passwords and user name-

Actually that is legal, because you connected to their network.

Actually they probably asked him what his email was.. to verify that he is not a terrorist. or is on a list of known list of aliases for suspicious emails or for spam.

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Israel, Britain, France, U.S., just about any of the "advanced" countries have the ability to bypass your firewall protection.

Whether or not they use that ability may be up for debate. They're governments. They do what they want, legal or not.

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By Israel Security Team, you mean Mossad, just like the security services of pretty much every country around the world, they can check most kinds of communications.

Mossad is the external security service, like MI6 or the CIA. Shin Bet, similar to MI5 would be what is dealing with that if its an internal matter like this.

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Israel, Britain, France, U.S., just about any of the "advanced" countries have the ability to bypass your firewall protection.

Whether or not they use that ability may be up for debate. They're governments. They do what they want, legal or not.

Yeah, by breaking into your house when you're at work and installing loggers. They don't have any super-ultra-mega-awesome-CSI-software that can magically bypass a firewall that has no known vulnerabilities.

Real life is not a movie.

Or maybe they'll

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Israel, Britain, France, U.S., just about any of the "advanced" countries have the ability to bypass your firewall protection.

Whether or not they use that ability may be up for debate. They're governments. They do what they want, legal or not.

Yeah, by breaking into your house when you're at work and installing loggers. They don't have any super-ultra-mega-awesome-CSI-software that can magically bypass a firewall that has no known vulnerabilities.

Real life is not a movie.

Damn. You have GOT to be in the Government. Speaking with such absoluteness, you just must be. What's your security clearance?

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Damn. You have GOT to be in the Government. Speaking with such absoluteness, you just must be. What's your security clearance?

Ah yes, that's it. I don't have the security clearance to know about all the magic technology. Yeah. I heard they found a backdoor password for OS X in the Roswell wreckage.

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Israel, Britain, France, U.S., just about any of the "advanced" countries have the ability to bypass your firewall protection.

Whether or not they use that ability may be up for debate. They're governments. They do what they want, legal or not.

Methinks you've grossly overestimated the abilities of governments...

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Windows is in use by governments across the world, has been audited numerous times and comes with full source code.

Does it now? Where can I download Windows 7 source code? ;-)

There is no way at all you could hide backdoors in software like this, and doing so would DESTROY Microsoft FOREVER.

Considering the vast size of Windows, all the various applications and sub-systems, it would be rather trivial to hide "backdoors" in the form of exploitable coding flaws - you don't need to make a special backdoor, just a flaw that you can trigger.

it would also be CATASTROPHIC for US foreign relations.

It would be "bad" for Microsoft but I doubt anyone would be surprised - really. We have no information what goes around in the cabinets and neither do you.

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Does it now? Where can I download Windows 7 source code? ;-)

If you are a government agency, just ask for it and you shall receive. We aren't talking about consumers here, although access is available to everyone form educational institutions to hardware manufacturers as well (with certain restrictions).

Considering the vast size of Windows, all the various applications and sub-systems, it would be rather trivial to hide "backdoors" in the form of exploitable coding flaws - you don't need to make a special backdoor, just a flaw that you can trigger.

I think Neowin has a separate section for conspiracy theories.

It would be "bad" for Microsoft but I doubt anyone would be surprised - really. We have no information what goes around in the cabinets and neither do you.

Huh? Windows runs on a billion computers world wide. If the US had placed backdoors in it, it would be catastrophic. It wouldn't just be brushed off with an "oh well".

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Ah yes, that's it. I don't have the security clearance to know about all the magic technology. Yeah. I heard they found a backdoor password for OS X in the Roswell wreckage.

Touch?. I tip my hat.

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Do you guys not remember the news posts about the NSA being able to wiretap anyone in the world with a single button press or that military satellites being so advanced now they can read newspapers on people's doorsteps now. That being said why wouldn't the most advanced technological companies in the world not be able to do such a simple thing as hack your email account if they wanted.

And I've been through the Israeli airport recently, they never asked me for a email address or anything related to my laptop. Never even gave my laptop so much as a second glance.

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Considering the vast size of Windows, all the various applications and sub-systems, it would be rather trivial to hide "backdoors" in the form of exploitable coding flaws - you don't need to make a special backdoor, just a flaw that you can trigger.

well thats an interesting theory, backdoors disguised as vulnerabilities... but i dont think it would be 'trivial' at all, you'll have to basically build a whole buch of things over the backdoor and make it look unintentional and stuff...

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Do you guys not remember the news posts about the NSA being able to wiretap anyone in the world with a single button press or that military satellites being so advanced now they can read newspapers on people's doorsteps now.

Totally. It's a little known fact that all phone lines in the world are routed through the US. They actually go through a big hub in Dick Cheney's basement.

Did you know that I could just stand outside of your house and take pictures instead? Or just hide a few cameras while you're out? And did you hear that with a little training you can actually get most people to unintentionally disclose personal information, including passwords? I know. Shocking.

Seriously guys, while there are times when advanced technology is used to gather intelligence, most of the work is extremely unsophisticated.

That being said why wouldn't the most advanced technological companies in the world not be able to do such a simple thing as hack your email account if they wanted.

How is hacking a Microsoft server in the US from Israel (or anywhere else) "simple"? How does it matter if you're an "advanced technological company"? It doesn't. There still has to be weaknesses that you can exploit. There is no magic to it, and it's no different from what malware writers do. True, the more resources you have to look for weaknesses, the better, but they have no magic hacking software that flashes lots of numbers on the screen until it suddenly magically gains access.

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Sometimes the magic hacking is as simple as hotmail used to be owned by a CIA front company, and an entire floor at AT&T was devoted to surveillance. And then there was the worm (like conficker) written by FBI to monitor net activity. Knowing the history of government agencies one should assume that if there is a possibility of adding a backdoor or other mechanism, and this is very possible, they are doing it.

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Totally. It's a little known fact that all phone lines in the world are routed through the US. They actually go through a big hub in Dick Cheney's basement.

Did you know that I could just stand outside of your house and take pictures instead? Or just hide a few cameras while you're out? And did you hear that with a little training you can actually get most people to unintentionally disclose personal information, including passwords? I know. Shocking.

Seriously guys, while there are times when advanced technology is used to gather intelligence, most of the work is extremely unsophisticated.

Read the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, point made. It's not a matter of paranoia. I had to go through several FBI background checks to get my current job since it requires an active use of a firearm at all times and a security clearance since I work for a defense contractor. Especially since I used to work for a foreign military as both enlisted and commissioned at one time.

And I was referring to that is a relatively simple act for them to do to hack a hotmail account, considering that could probably do it with a home computer if they wanted to. Since hackers in Turkey do it on a daily basis with relative ease.

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It is. Claiming that the NSA can "wiretap anyone in the world with a single button press" is just not true. They'd no doubt like to have that ability, but they do not.

As for hacking Hotmail, sure, you could do it with a home computer (which is just like any other computer), IF there was a weakness there for you to exploit. Simply tricking someone (or their computer) into giving you their password (i.e social engineering) like hackers do all the time is not hacking Hotmail because you're not doing anything to Hotmail other than just logging onto it normally.

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Furthermore if you dont install ZoneAlarm or Windows Security they can bypass your . . . oh wait. ROFL @ The GUI Interface with VB. Please can someone close this. There isn't going to be any meaningful outcome to this thread at all.

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