Windows 7 Antipiracy


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I found this info while randomly surfing the net, its been published today in windows7update, but 2 months old on PCauthority.com.au

I thought it might be interesting as i haven't read any topic relating to this matter of Windows 7.

From PCauthority

Microsoft has announced that the forthcoming Windows 7 operating system will contain a number of piracy 'tweaks' designed to protect its own interests and those of its customers. Joe Williams, general manager for Worldwide Genuine Windows at Microsoft, warned that the losses from software piracy are not just monetary.

"Consumers face potential identity theft, system failures and unrecoverable data loss," he said. "Market research firm IDC pegs the cost of compromised data in business environments at tens of thousands of dollars per incident."

Windows 7 will include new methods of protecting consumers from software piracy and malware infections, Williams explained, while ensuring that Microsoft's intellectual property rights are respected.

"As a software company, it is important for Microsoft to take a leadership role in fighting piracy. Customers want to know that they are using the genuine high-quality Microsoft product they paid for, and they want to know that their systems are more secure and that their software does not contain malicious code, " he said.

"Counterfeit software delivers a poor experience and impacts customer satisfaction with our products, particularly if users do not know that their software is non-genuine."

Williams gave the example of one piracy exploit that caused more than a million reported system crashes on machines running non-genuine Windows Vista before Microsoft was able to resolve it.

"Customers running genuine Windows Vista Service Pack 1 are protected from that experience. And there is an even simpler reason: if you pay for something, you want to know that you got what you paid for," he said.

"We see many cases of customers who wanted to buy genuine software and believed they did, only to find out later that they were victims of software piracy. We want to prevent that kind of thing in the first place."

Under the new regime users will be expected to validate their software in a much more precise way than before. Other Microsoft operating systems and anti-piracy measures, including Windows Genuine Advantage, allowed users to delay 'activation', but Windows 7 will make it harder to ignore repeated messages.

Williams also hinted at tools pitched at enterprises designed to improve and speed up company-wide systems authentication. "When customers see and use the tools we are providing to support Windows Vista and Windows 7 deployments, we think they will be impressed," he said.

http://www.windows7update.com/Windows7antipiracy.html

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Seems alot like the same bruahaha! MS has said fo many years it is improving security this and security that.

that remains yet to be seen.

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As a wise locksmith once said to me...

"For every new lock out there, there is already a theif or two that know how to unlock it before it is mainstream." I find that to be so true. :)

This will be yet another Cat Vs. Mouse Game concerning the software protections.

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They said the same for XP and Vista. If someone is determined enough, it'll be cracked and eventually the crack will be distributed all over the net. That's the way it's been and I don't see anything changing that.

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Oh come on.... They can never stop these Hackers or Crackers. They'll always stay on top of the game no matter what you put in your product thats going to prevent privacy. It's just another Challenge for these crackers.

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"Counterfeit software"

"non-genuine software"

Really?

If someone patches the OS, it suddenly becomes "counterfeit" and "non-genuine"?

Yes, because if you had bothered to actually read it before making a knee-jerk reaction, you'd see that he is talking about people selling "patched" versions of Windows (often with a computer) without telling the user. These are counterfeit copies of Windows. Not originals. Not the genuine article.

It also shows what morons the counterfeiters/pirates are when you consider how simple it is to pirate OEM copies of Windows without the need for any cracks if you really wanted.

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There are a lot of small computer stores that sell custom built pc's with a OS (Vista, XP) included, which is counterfiet or hacked. The end user doesn't know the sad truth until later.

This is obviously done because small computer stores rarely get that true OEM discount. And no body wants the ****ty Linux free alternative.

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Most small shops in the US use compromised or over licensed keys, they aren't actively cracking them like I've heard many of the overseas vendors do. Much like getting a tainted iso during the RC.

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As a wise locksmith once said to me...

"For every new lock out there, there is already a thief or two that know how to unlock it before it is mainstream." I find that to be so true. :)

This will be yet another Cat Vs. Mouse Game concerning the software protections.

True. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a hack the day it's released :rofl:

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And no body wants the ****ty Linux free alternative.

A trend that is thankfully changing. Recently I have built a few PCs, and spoken about Linux to customers, and they have been more than happy with the result.

My tactic is to tell them the add-on price of Windows, or offer Ubuntu, and then let them add Windows later should they wish.

Sorry - that was hugely off topic... I have found a number of people who have PCs from small builders, or "a friend" who built it... And the XP install is hacked...

Fair's dair - the price of Windows can look high on paper - but factor it down to a per-day usage, and it's a cheap product worth the investment.

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Microsoft has already estimated the likely percentage of ?pirated? copies of Windows 7 in their price structure, similar to Banks and credit card fraud.

The headlines are for the ?impressed? buyers to justify the nifty price tag.

There will always be a way to circumnavigate buying a copy, code exploitation becoming a favourite pastime for some and likely to be on the increase in the current financial turmoil.

After all the stealth piggy back techniques used to check the authenticity of a Windows 7 copy is reminiscent of hacking exploits.....

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I love how spinmeisters keep trying to sell the old con that this is "for the consumers". We all know that's crap, in every way.

While I wish they'd charge less for their software overall, I believe MS has the right to protect their investments, etc.

But we all know there is no "genuine advantage" to the consumer. The copy protection is just corporate sales protection...and we all know it, Microsoft.

You don't have to LIE about it... 8)

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WZOR posted a dl and screenshot of "V-activator" by Orbit30, from the look of it it's prepared for 7.....

seems the mouse had made a head-start already. :hmmm:

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Most small shops in the US use compromised or over licensed keys, they aren't actively cracking them like I've heard many of the overseas vendors do. Much like getting a tainted iso during the RC.

When I took a trip to China recently, I went into a large multi-story electronics shop in the middle of a large city and noticed that, with the exception of a small handful of brand-name machines (Dell, Lenovo, Sony, etc.), every single machine was running a pirated OS. I think that's what Microsoft is really trying to curb. There will always be people who download cracks from the scene and update them whenever Microsoft catches up, but I have a feeling that Microsoft doesn't really care about that fringe. People who walk into a store, buy a PC with a pirated OS, OTOH, are much less likely to know how to work around new piracy roadblocks, and they are the ones that the WGA notices are targeted at--my guess is that Microsoft thinks that if enough of those people get a scary "this is counterfeit software" message, they'll be less likely to buy from those dealers. (though in reality, I don't think that works b/c it seems that a lot of the people shopping there know that what they are getting isn't exactly legit, and it doesn't seem to stop them because it all comes down to that price tag)

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so is the activation scheme really cumbersome? With vista every time I reformatted and reinstalled I couldn't activate it, which meant calling up some Indian call center rep who can barely speak understandable english and resetting my copy so it would activate. If this is still the way it works, I probably won't buy it... no reason they can't do a completely online activation system like steam where it will always activate on one system at a time, and transfer from system to system easily.

Nobody uses a computer without the internet... so if they made it so the operating system not work without internet access after a certain amount of time, say a month, I personally wouldn't care, and would buy a copy if it meant not having to call microsoft all the time because of a format.

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It also shows what morons the counterfeiters/pirates are when you consider how simple it is to pirate OEM copies of Windows without the need for any cracks if you really wanted.

yeah, this has confused me also. Given the fact that the oem fixes work 100% and will never be disabled by MS (as that would render the OEM's customer base as pirated) I've never understood the need for these WGA bypass cracks and all the other weirdness.

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so is the activation scheme really cumbersome? With vista every time I reformatted and reinstalled I couldn't activate it, which meant calling up some Indian call center rep who can barely speak understandable english and resetting my copy so it would activate. If this is still the way it works, I probably won't buy it... no reason they can't do a completely online activation system like steam where it will always activate on one system at a time, and transfer from system to system easily.

Nobody uses a computer without the internet... so if they made it so the operating system doesn't work without internet access after a certain amount of time, say a month, I personally wouldn't care, and would buy a copy if it meant not having to call microsoft all the time because of a format.

Actually, that's a false assumption. For instance, I have two machines in my home that don't connect to the internet, and are mostly used for word processing. Of course their Linux machines running Ubuntu, as I'm not that well off to deal with buying a copy of Windows for every machine, and I'm not that much of a fan of Microsoft, which can't seem to make something, hardware and software, that doesn't screw up on a regular basis.

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I'm not that much of a fan of Microsoft, which can't seem to make something, hardware and software, that doesn't screw up on a regular basis.

and you run linux? lol

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well that's illegal! No more illegal then what I do with activation schemes in place that make me call indian call center reps all the time though. I guess we both do it for different reasons. lol

I want to pay microsoft, the activation thing just annoys me so greatly that it's easier to just crack it entirely.

They could use US hired english speaking call center reps, too, I suppose.

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and I'm not that much of a fan of Microsoft, which can't seem to make something, hardware and software, that doesn't screw up on a regular basis.

The MS Natural Keyboard is without a doubt, one of the best keyboards ever made. They make some great mice as well.

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