Sethos Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 No..unfortunately I don't play Joint Ops anymore.. but there's something much better these days.. it's called ARMA 2 ;) In with the thumbs up (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted July 15, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 15, 2009 ArmA 2 isn't Joint Ops though lol Joint Ops surely wasn't realism based, while if you fart to loud in ArmA 2 you can have your fart lit up on fire before you turn around :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted July 16, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2009 He he.. took this when I was signing up for EA Battlefield Veteran for Bad Company when it was released :) Nice Collection. Looks VERY familiar. I have those boxes of BF2 and BF2142, or else they would have been included in my shot as well. Just some of the more modern games, minus Crysis, I have for the 360, but most of those I also own as well, pretty much all I ever need. (Y) LOC, I actually still have Joint Ops and Typhoon Rising... And TOT, but I played Arma II, only the SP as I only had a "trial version," and I just did not get it. It seemed completely unresponsive and just clunky as all hell. Am I really missing out with the MP? I LOVED Joint Ops, so is it really like Joint Ops or way more realistic than it? That is what I just did not like, I mean realism is one thing, but aiming directly at something with my crosshair and not even come close because of said realism when I shoot, well that just becomes frustrating to me, and that is what was happening, even when I tried to take into account distance, wind, etc. And just FTR, I do not feel like arguing about what I said before, but I definitely got kicked as a Commander when I called in an Arty Strike in BF2. It must have been before the 1.03 patch that fixed that. And honestly I did or do not know the exact number it took to get kicked for TK'ing and a BF2 server as I never did it, but I do know for sure the servers I played for let you vote on wether to punish the person or not, and if it was a genuine mistake, I let them go. If not, I punished. More often than not, I let it go, as people were not doing it on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Nice Collection. Looks VERY familiar. I have those boxes of BF2 and BF2142, or else they would have been included in my shot as well. Just some of the more modern games, minus Crysis, I have for the 360, but most of those I also own as well, pretty much all I ever need. (Y) LOC, I actually still have Joint Ops and Typhoon Rising... And TOT, but I played Arma II, only the SP as I only had a "trial version," and I just did not get it. It seemed completely unresponsive and just clunky as all hell. Am I really missing out with the MP? I LOVED Joint Ops, so is it really like Joint Ops or way more realistic than it? Okay..it is VERY realistic but it's not that bad with targeting and shooting as Joint Ops was. I remember being frustrated about Joint Ops when I started. With ARMA 2 when you get a hang of it, it is probably the best war game I've played and I played them all including Americas Army. Demo is really not representative of the game. I tried the demo and kind of had some fun but was still on the border with full retail game. I bit the bullet hoping for the best and realistically I didn't regret it. Here's what you can expect: 1. Game is buggy. Demo was horrible, final game is better but still had glitches and some bugs. Regardless those are not such party breakers if you ask me. I'm having a blast. 2. Game is so much more detailed then the demo. I started playing SP campaign and it was great. Definitely worth the try but I just didn't have time to finish it and just started off with multiplayer directly and that's really where the real fun is. 3. You have find servers for multiplayer that are managed properly and optimized. Xeno's maps are usually the best and I love the realism one. One Team West. You join and pick your class and you have to stick with it. If you are corpsman (medic) you have to really run and heal wounded soldiers on the field because, well trust me, you will need to. AI is very good on above normal settings and that's where the real fun is. 4. This game is usually not played group of people vs group of people. It's mostly COOP mode which it's a bunch of people some servers I play on are 50 people against AI. This is a lot of fun because it's really good feel for all of you to work as an army. Pilots fly planes, bombers, C-130, blackhawks, hueys and wreck choppers, medics heal, team leaders issue orders to your squad you can see with green boxes so you can keep formation etc. 5. This is game is much more in depth than anything that I've played before because it's also like a real time strategy game. You can (depending on your class) build certain things as well. For example, I was a Fire Team Leader for example and I could build an MG Nest (not sure if you do it as Fire Team leader of MG gunner, but you get the point). Different classes have different functionalities. Engineers repair stuff and can drive certain vehicles but this all again depends on mods you play. So far there are a couple of game types people play. COOP (all of you again AI with different map variations/mods), CTI (which is where it's based on money and mostly you play it so it's group of live people again other people where you are capturing the flag and make money and then with that money you can expand your base, buy weapons, vehicles etc) and HOLD (haven't played HOLD so I don't know). Some glitches you might experience is problem with the server, disconnects, lags but it is really a lot to do with the server itself. 7th Cavlary which I play on a lot too is very laggy to the point it can get frustrating but the teamwork is ok there and always a lot of people so it can be fun. I find that 15th Regiment Realism Recruiting server 2 is the best one and the one I play the most now. Amazing teamwork, lots of admins so the gameplay and TKin is non-existant unless it's an accident and the AI is very strong. Go read in PC GH section, I explained some glorious moments that are completely cinematic as you play that I've never experience in other games. This is not Battlefield or Bad Company or anything like that.. you have to kind of act as a real soldier and be very careful as you will die very quickly by AI. I'm thinking of making a tutorial through videos to show people who want to play ARMA 2 how and where to look at so when you join the game you know what to do and not get lost, because you can get frustrated and lost with so many options and things to do. Once you do get a hang of it, it is the best war game I've played bar none. Last 2 days I spent literally up to 7 hours playing ARMA 2 until we cleared the whole island and you keep getting surprised at how well everything is setup. Until last night I didn't even know that once you clear out the town, enemy can actaully decide not to leave the town and send reinforcement to recapture the town and then your team has to stay behind and fight them off. This changes the whole dynamic of gameplay in MP. Great fun and totally worth the money even with the bugs and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted July 16, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2009 DL let's play JO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mystic MVC Posted July 16, 2009 MVC Share Posted July 16, 2009 DL let's play JO! Oh my gosh, all this sidetracking about JO has gotten me excited. I haven't played that in years! Blackhawk and JO were two of my earliest online FPS games while growing up. So many great hours spent on those two games...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapen Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I've gotten fairly good at the planes now. How long did they reckon it'd take to get enough community kills to open up that new map, which is designed for pilots right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Any news on the website yet? I'm curious to see how bad my ratio is LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted July 16, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2009 I've gotten fairly good at the planes now. How long did they reckon it'd take to get enough community kills to open up that new map, which is designed for pilots right? What console are you playing on? 360 it is already opened, and PS3 I would say within a few days, it is right at 30,713,472 @ Boz - Thanks for the long feedback. If you do make the videos let me know, as I am still on the fence as you said there are still some issues, etc. Truth is reason consoles appeal to me nowadays is I can put the game in and play, no tweaking settings, etc. etc. Which is key for me since I do not get much time to play these days. I am lucky when I get two hours in a row. It sucks but it is how it is. @ LOC - Does JO work on Vista? I am assuming it does, so maybe I can install it and give it a whirl one day soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I've gotten fairly good at the planes now. How long did they reckon it'd take to get enough community kills to open up that new map, which is designed for pilots right? iirc they expected it to take around four weeks on each platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted July 16, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2009 DL: Yes, JO works fine on Vista. I was playing it last night on a server with 78/100 players :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted July 16, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2009 iirc they expected it to take around four weeks on each platform. 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Can't load games anymore (again)... yay! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligan Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Let's get this thread back to 1943, now :). My good friend has a PS3 while I have a 360 and while homogenization of online console gaming is a pipe dream at this moment in time, I would love to have played him online since I have a 360. It's a shame that either of us has gotten each other to convert to either system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Let's get this thread back to 1943, now :).My good friend has a PS3 while I have a 360 and while homogenization of online console gaming is a pipe dream at this moment in time, I would love to have played him online since I have a 360. It's a shame that either of us has gotten each other to convert to either system. You want to get the thread back to 1943 and you fail completely to do so yourself? Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligan Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 You want to get the thread back to 1943 and you fail completely to do so yourself?Awesome. Yeah, that was my mistake, oops. Had to get it out of my head, but I appreciate the sarcasm. Getting back on topic, anyone else find it a shame that you can only play 24 players max? I would have thought that with today's technology at least 32 players would have been more plausible. In my opinion, combat on a much more larger scale is what made most of the Battlefield games great, but I never saw Bad Company multiplayer myself. The combat is much more flexible though. Instead of trying to hunt down whoever shot my tank I can just blow the cover and see for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 The games are hosted on users connections and not enough of them can support 32 players. 24 is a struggle and there are often spikes in lag when you least need them. Increasing the players by another 50% would make things just so much worse, much like GoW2 going from 8-player to 10-player matches. You need dedicated servers really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted July 18, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted July 18, 2009 He he.. took this when I was signing up for EA Battlefield Veteran for Bad Company when it was released :) Nice collection (Y) Seeing as the weak ass PS3 community is still behind for unlocking that new map I may buy 1943, but I'm still holding out for PC news. In the meantime (and I know I'll get slapped for going OT lol), can anyone tell me how active the BF2 community still is? I never did try 2142 either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted July 18, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted July 18, 2009 The games are hosted on users connections and not enough of them can support 32 players. 24 is a struggle and there are often spikes in lag when you least need them. Increasing the players by another 50% would make things just so much worse, much like GoW2 going from 8-player to 10-player matches. You need dedicated servers really. BF1943 servers are dedicated, that is why nobody could join the game for the first 3 days. In fact, iirc, every console BF used dedicated servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 BF1943 servers are dedicated, that is why nobody could join the game for the first 3 days.In fact, iirc, every console BF used dedicated servers. From what I understood, it was the matchmaking servers that were the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted July 18, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted July 18, 2009 Not what I've read. EA servers are known to be turned off after a game becomes inactive/dies in popularity. Once that happens it's impossible to play your old favourites. Which is why I'm happy XBL uses P2P, although the utlimate solution would be to have both. That way once the servers are turned off you can always play your games. The reason they say it's limited to 24 players in BF1943 is because of the intense data requirements from the desctructible enviroments used by Frostbite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I thought EA used dedicated servers on XBL? edit: NM I just read the previous page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsy66 Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Got really into this game today. The lag is non-existant now which is great. I seriously love the tanks. I had 29 kills and a score of around 700, double the score of the next top player. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingeringSoul Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I love how the tanks are strong, but they're not unstoppable like they were in BF1942. Back in those days, if you were on foot and a tank rolled up nearby, you basically had to accept your fate (or if FF is off, you could pray for a bomber to swoop down and save your ass). It was realistic, but it wasn't particularly fun. In 1943, I've managed to take out tanks by myself (with the anti-tank launcher), and I'm not a great player by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madd-hatter Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Stupid air bomb siren is stuck in my head. This game is a great buy at $15 bucks but I can't help to grudge on it for it feeling half finished. Pretty fun, but it won't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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