[SPOILER] Matrix Reloaded Explanations


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the whole aspect of smith copying himself on the human debate... Didn't Link and Tank always download information to them while they were in the matrix... enabling them to know more things and by means of imprinting it on the human??? So that can explain how Smith is in his brain... unless all those holes on their bodies and what not make them semi robot or a cyborg?? ever think of that... that would be interesting....

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or neo waking up at the end of revolitions at a future arcade being "man that was some game" and puts in some more quarters to play again...

Edit: Kinda like that movie "Existance" anyone seen that? I dunno if that came out befor or after the matrix, but it had a very very very similar theme, just played out differently.

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the whole aspect of smith copying himself on the human debate... Didn't Link and Tank always download information to them while they were in the matrix... enabling them to know more things and by means of imprinting it on the human??? So that can explain how Smith is in his brain... unless all those holes on their bodies and what not make them semi robot or a cyborg?? ever think of that... that would be interesting....

well I didn't read the page prior to this so yea this was already stated, I was thinking about it and just came on and posted it... but I think it is correct that Neo and them are part machine... there is no better explanation.

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Also, I am pretty interested who the kid that Neo and Trinity see right after they land into Zion is ... he said that Neo saved his life, and yet Neo said that he saved himself. I'd love perhaps an Animatrix episode to explain that?

Watch "Kid's Story"

As a side note, for those of you who are interested in how they're going to work out the rest of the scenes with The Oracle, they did hire a different actress. She plays in Enter the Matrix also, and explains why she looks different. She's still The Oracle, but it's a different actress. It has something to do with the Merovingian.

So you have to play the game for the complete story.

And you have to watch The Animatrix for the complete story...

Cha-CHING!!!

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people were talking about the actor who played the oracle being dead earlier and that she didnt get to film the revolution scenes...i was noticing that the Oracle is in Enter the Matrix, but they used a different actress, think they will do that for revolutions too?

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people were talking about the actor who played the oracle being dead earlier and that she didnt get to film the revolution scenes...i was noticing that the Oracle is in Enter the Matrix, but they used a different actress, think they will do that for revolutions too?

Yeah, I read somewhere that they had found a replacement.

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Oh by the way....

When Neo, Morpheous and Trinity first go and meet Merovingian and Persephone.? The camera follows a women that is being led away from the table.? Neo notices and tries to look.

Anyone know who she is?? Her purpose?? Blah, blah...

Might be important for the next movie...

I'll explain.

Merovingian wrote a program which is a cake that woman eats. After the first bite she starts to feel something. You can see her getting hot. Then everything is shown in the code. Later you see an explosion inside her body - an orgasm. Nice program! LOL!

Thats the whole purpose of it. To show how strong Merovingian is that he can write programs and manipulate (or make fun:Df :D) people. Anyway, I think that chick really liked it. Although, the two dudes beside her didn't seem to understand anyth:Dg :D

No, he was asking about when they first walk into the restaurant. Someone was being taken away by a bodyguard type person. Who was that that was being taken away?

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yea..i noticed it was red and when i looked at it, it was a pill shaped 'candy'..

maybe shes taking it so as a way to force her program to stay in the matrix or something

The machines should just get a sentinel to run down to the basement and flip the switch on the fuse box and do a cold boot, reset the matrix and begin again...every couple thousand years in the Matrix..repeat step 1.. its that simple ;)

Here is the reason for the red hot tamale she gives Neo. She is showing him how everything is a choice. The red pill that Neo took originally was just like candy. She is showing him how it didn't matter because he had already made up his mind, made the choice. The pill was just like candy, didn't mean anything. It was just symbolic to help Neo understand the choice he had already made to leave the Matrix.

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I donno if any of you have played the enter the matrix game... but at some point a cut secne (like real, not animated), shows a bum yelling about "75 hours, How long it took zion to fall last time" i donno if that has anything to do with this but?

also something to think about, the aticitec (sp?) says that neo is a type of glitch, if he is a glitch how is he real? and not just a program.

also seems that smith and neo are becomeing ying, and yang..

another thing, when that dude tries to kill neo when he is leving zion, WHY dose he cut his hand? dose the symbol mean anything?

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Smith is in the real world. One example of this is when he was waiting for neo and crew to walk buy and he was cutting his hand. why do this? he was doing this to see if he could bleed as far as I took it, to see if he was real.

Smith is a virus so to speak and is hell bent on control. He wants to control the matrix and neo is the only thing in his way, The architech makes referance to him as well as the orical.

The Bum you see in the Game, is in revolutions with more imporance.

Its important to play the game because there is actualy an important part when you visit the orical, she reveals more about herself and how she becam exhiled as well as neos begining.

The woman you see playing the Orical in Enter The Matrix game is the woman that will appear in Revolutions as well. If you seen the Revolutions teaser trailor, the female voice over was the new actress that plays her.

It is important to remember that not all questions have answers in Reloaded, we have much to learn and have to wait for Revolutions.

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No one has really touched on this. I believe that the Oracle knows that the only way for humans and machines to survive is to work together. She speaks about the future of the two together. I can't remember the exact quotes. That is also why they speak about that when Neo is in the engineering room. Man and machine are dependent on each other. She knows it can't continue on the way the previous 5 have.

Also, since the Oracle isn't the mother of the matrix, will we meet the mother in Revolutions? And like someone said, revolutions means that humans will revolt and so will machines. The machines that will revolt are the ones like the Oracle who want to live in harmony with the humans.

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amazing movie (Y) ...but i still don't get why agent smith isn't an agent smith anymore and why seraph's code was yellow?..and how did neo stop the sentinel in the end of the movie? :D

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I don't know. Regarding the teaser trailer from ETM, I'd say the defense has been broken. We've to wait till November it seems.

Yes you are right. I think the reason ( the coma guy) survived was because 1) He was on the defense line due to the fact he was pushing his comandor to volunteer 2) The sentials sensed he was A.Smith and let him live.

And the reason why i think the that was the defense line because, they said , " Right after they were with done us, they continuted digging" I dont think they killed of Zion yet...but they are digging down further for them??

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I think the defense line brings reference to the one Captain Lock was speaking of ... the one made of steel which would "slow them down an hour, or less." Also, I was thinking about it and it does make sense ... Smith isn't an agent of the system anymore, and so he was doomed for deletion, and he thus chose exile like the Oracle said. Also, did you notice that the corridor with all the backdoors that the Oracle is in (and Smith subsequently) looks very similar to the corridor that the keymaker takes Neo and Morpheus to ... perhaps it is the same room? Also ... I like the candy analogy, and as someone previously said when she's asked "Why are you here?" She replies "Same reason as everyone else, I like candy." By using candy as a metaphor for the red pill, she is saying that she took the pill as well, but if it is like candy then the pill is simply a metaphor for choice, and only represents the fact that they all chose the truth. Someone earlier on said that Reloaded doesn't have all the answers ... however obvious, it is a good point - we can only speculate from hereon by looking at ETM and the Animatrix together with Reloaded to predict what will happen in Revolutions ... I personally don't think that a "it's a wonderful world" approach will be taken by the ending where humans and machines co-exist, but I'm curious to see what'll happen OR if the Matrix will be finished at all (the mere fact that there will be a Matrix Online suggests that perhaps not.) Anyhow, in conclusion, all I need now is to time-travel to November!!

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as posted in another thread earlier

a few more explanations/guesses here

Regarding Neo stopping the machines at then end of the movie, the Architect said it himself : Neo has changed a lot, but he's still a human --- note that the architect precisely said "A human", not just "Human", which semantically means not staying human in the way he has feelings, etc, but staying human PHYSICALLY.

My hypothesis is that after centuries of Man-Machine interactions, some mutations have emerged, just as it would happen between two interracting species in a given closed biotope. So Neo has mutated in a way that allows him to interact directly with machines and programs, which would explain why he is able to bend the rules of the matrix by flying, doin' a direct heart massage to Trinity, removing the bullet from her body and of course stopping the sentinels in the real world

Remember the matrix is a program, each of it's iterations is meant to be rebuilt at a point in time, just like a normal program, to be perfected :

1- build a version

2- find bugs in the code (anomalies like Neo)(partly the Oracle's Role)

3- debug the code and merge the corrected code into the original (Neo going back to the source to be assimilated and build a more perfect version of the Matrix)

4- Compile and restart the application (New version of the Matrix is running, back to step 1)

Therefore, there aren't several versions of the Matrix built on each other, at one point in time there's only one running.

Regarding Zion being rebuilt several times, heh, it wasn't necessarily always at the same place..

Also, Zion is necessary to the Matrix in the way it makes anomalies come to light and be identified more easily (ppl being awakened from the matrix) and allow the mainframe to prepare for a better version, that's why Zion is allowed to be rebuilt after each Predecessor to Neo has been merged back into the Source code

by choosing not to be merged with the source, Neo breaks the cycle, hence the title Revolutions for the 3rd movie

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You forget one thing ... for mutations to occur, you need a DNA ... machines aren't human, thus they have no cells or DNA and so they can evolve only by building better machines, and for a human to have any machine-like characteristics it must artificially have machinery placed into the human, or in the case of Neo and Smith the kind of interaction that happened in the end of the original Matrix, but I still don't see how that could explain Neo's "powers" by mutations ...

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I just had an interesting theory which might explain the end scene where Neo collapses in a coma ... hear me out!

All human beings have been plugged into the Matrix in order for machines to get energy from them, no doubt about that, but we forget one thing. When a human being is plugged into the Matrix, the ONLY organ that is used up is in fact the brain, nothing else. Now, we know from the Architect that there have been 5 previous matrices, and this is the sixth, i.e. the Matrix has been going on for 600 years (he says each anomaly occurs a century after the other.) Now, in all that time, with the brain being the ONLY organ being used, it would indeed evolve from it's pre-matrix state into a much power organ, and so when Neo's mind was "freed" and he came into existence in the "real world," he only knew about things in the Matrix. To give a quick example, if you were a 2D man on a 3D sphere, you would never know it was 3D because you can only perceive things in 2D. This is something similar ... as Neo was plugged into the Matrix all his life, he can only think in terms of things in the Matrix, and slowly he learns his "real" power, in his quest of being The One. Now, in the final scene, my theory is after his talk with the Architect, Neo brings the pieces of the puzzle together and finally understands that there is more to it, he learns to take advantage of his brain which was before bound by the walls of the Matrix, and so he can now feel the sentinels, and unleash his full power against them bringing them down. The reason why he collapses into a coma after that is because of this new-found power which he just drained, this power without boundaries. And so, by bringing the sentinels down he used up this new found power, and he collapsed because he still isn't used to it.

Anyway - just my 2 cents ...

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Arnaudt, no need to have DNA on the machine's part, the Organism which is adaptating itself to the other in this case is Neo. A simple concrete example would be organisms living in the depths of oceans, some have evolved to live around Hot water springs born from undergound lava activity where no carbon is available to build matter on, only Silicium.

In the case of Neo's action at the end of the movie, remember what the machines are looking for in humans : electricity and heat, what if the machines had "optimized" humans to produce more electricity, just like we "optimize" beef with growth hormones so they produce more meat.

Now, considering this hypothesis, being able to produce more electricity and no longer being driven out of it by machines, Neo starts accumulating electricity (any animal's body has a nominal electric capacitance) in proportions unusual in mankind, now suppose he can release it in a single burst, what does it do? a mini EMP :D

Regarding why he can sense the Sentinels, just another property of electricity and magnetic fields. Magnetic fields all have an influence on nearby fields.

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Arkos - fair point ... but what you are talking about really is adaptation through evolution ... not evolution through mutation ... I perfectly understand the point that Neo could have "adapted" to be able to store a certain amount of charge ... (even though the capacitance of any animal's body is tiny, and even though adaptation so to speak takes a long time and wouldn't happen over a few hours, or days ...). It perhaps makes more sense to say that through his predecessors Neo has learnt to adapt to sensing machines, but the mini EMP idea just doesn't work in this scenario.

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