Joseph B Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 @Dhalamar and Spork:Why Age of Conan is "epic fail". Bring on the excuses, 160 pages of fail. *Stops the reinstall* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoDEAN Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 they game and grow so much since i left it im enjoying the 2 week free play time to the people screaming FAIL ! please load the damn game and try it out and if you don't please craw back under the bridge I tried it out. Wasted my time beta testing it, money on pre-ordering it, and that slow grind to max level, then people left the game like I was at a METS game in the 9th inning.............in droves. No Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylcard Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If we are to to go with forum posts World of Warcraft is the worst product ever produced... oh wait... The only time I had trouble logging in to WoW was when their servers were purposely down for maintenance. Sure, I can accept these things when a game launches (or its expansion), but if it's not fixed after 1 month and so many complaints by the community, that's just unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted July 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2009 Didn't they take down a bunch of servers? And what happened to the DX10 patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted July 10, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2009 Didn't they take down a bunch of servers? And what happened to the DX10 patch? DX10 is available now, but apparently it's still experimental. And yeah, they took down a bunch of servers. All but 1 or 2 of my characters had to be renamed when I logged in yesterday :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted July 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2009 DX10 is available now, but apparently it's still experimental. And yeah, they took down a bunch of servers. All but 1 or 2 of my characters had to be renamed when I logged in yesterday :( Ouch! I thought DX10 support was a big selling point. It's a shame that people actually played $49.99 for this game. It seems to me that the developers failed in delivering what they promised on time. I certainly don't want to play it at all, even if it was free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos mage Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Meh I didn't hate the game, I just didn't really like it either. I'll play the free bits then delete it again, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 AoC is a great game. IT's pretty much the best Fantasy MMORPG out there right below Vanguard, AoC is the one I'm still subscribing too though... WoW is honestly a subpar product and only sells because of the lowest common denominator. IT's easy and simple and they hold your hand through the whole thing. But it was outdated already at launch. SWG was a far better game, and Vanguard took a lot of the good things from SWG. AoC is also a "simpler" game than these but, it's got more interesting combat. The FFA PVP gets on my nerves a lot though. morons hacking down every lower level or non twinked player they see and run by for "fun". SWG (CU1/CU2, not NGE) was pretty much the best MMORPG out there, while it wasn't completely skill base,d at least it was a class/skill hybrid. and it had proper player cities and most importantly it had a good PVP system. servers weren't split between pvp and not PVP. but players could choose if they wanted to PVP or not. as far as AoC, I've never had lag issues, well that's not true, I did, but that was local to my LAN, due to a badly set up netgear router making a mess of things and causing lag spikes every few minutes. The game also has an actual story(and no it doesn't end after Tortage). There is a lot of travel though and it does the WoW stupid thing of limiting mounts to high level(wtf, what's the logic of only high levels knowing how to ride... learn from Vanguard, mounts at 20, which is when you start to explore the world, granted Vanguuard was huge and has ships as well). So if you want an interesting MMORPG that's more than just raiding Friday night with the other guildies because we have nothing better to do and farming uber raid loot is the only thing left to do, Then try out AoC. if you want something even more interesting and challenging, pick up Vanguard. in fact I think I may renew my vanguard sub some day soon and get back to some casual play with my necro and his army of undead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylcard Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Right, stopped reading after "WoW is honestly a subpar product". Either please put a huge IMO sign or don't post nonesense. As far as lag, read the 160 pages of fail, it's not about you or me having issues (or not having them), it's a given fact that THERE is an issue that affects many people, some people can play a year without issues and then it hits them, some had it at launch and after 3 months it worked itself out, but the issue itself is still there. I looked over at the over-hyped-boxed-version crap that is written all over AoC and I'm disgusted by their lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Right, stopped reading after "WoW is honestly a subpar product".Either please put a huge IMO sign or don't post nonesense. As far as lag, read the 160 pages of fail, it's not about you or me having issues (or not having them), it's a given fact that THERE is an issue that affects many people, some people can play a year without issues and then it hits them, some had it at launch and after 3 months it worked itself out, but the issue itself is still there. I looked over at the over-hyped-boxed-version crap that is written all over AoC and I'm disgusted by their lies. Why should I put an IMO on something that is fact. MMO's where evolving into avdnaced virtual world giving players the control, more and more, UNTILL WoW was released. Whereas old games like Anarchy Online had an incredible library of purely social wear, and even drinks and stuff you could hold, games like SWG expanded even more on this by addign in player built houses and player cities, including bars, and theaters and such run by players. WoW basically devolved the whole MMO scene with a game more basic than the original Everquest. I didn't say it was a bad game, though it is, and THAT is IMO. but it IS a subpar product created all around the lowest common denominator. Where other games evolve, WoW devolve and simplify. Where other games encourage exploring and thinking, WoW gives you hand holding throughout Where other games offer advanced social enviroments, WoW offers... /dance..... Where other games offer guild cities with castles you need to defend and even siege warfare, WoW offers..... Where games like SWG,EQ2 and Vanguard monthly offered huge free updates, equal in size to WoW's expansions, WoW offers... yet another patch that gimp a class to supposedly bring it down to everyone else's level... you'd think with such a simple class and combat system, they should have had it properly balanced at launch. And Where other games, offer a scalable graphics quality so you can play the games on anything from WoW **** graphics on a old stone age computer, to graphics that current hardware can't even run. Wow offers graphics that run on the oldest computer for everyone, because round stuff, looks just as good with only 3 segments.... :rolleyes: in public opinion it's obviusly not a bad game. But it doesn't make it a game on par with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 You are forgetting there is two types of MMO: Sandbox and theme park. SWG was a sandbox. WoW is a theme park. They cater for two types of audience. It's like saying since Half Life 2 doesn't have upgrade-able plasmids ala Bioshock. It's an inferior game. The reason WoW was such a huge hit is simply because it took all the pointless, needless and bloat worthy time sinks from EQ and... Threw them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 You are forgetting there is two types of MMO:Sandbox and theme park. SWG was a sandbox. WoW is a theme park. They cater for two types of audience. It's like saying since Half Life 2 doesn't have upgrade-able plasmids ala Bioshock. It's an inferior game. The reason WoW was such a huge hit is simply because it took all the pointless, needless and bloat worthy time sinks from EQ and... Threw them away. umm no. if anything WoW has at least as many time sinks as the other series, in most cases more time sinks in fact. what they took away was EVERYTHING that was social in the game, anything that wasn't directly related to killing monsters or killing players. because something is social doesn't make it a time sink. roleplaying your character in a player city isn't something you have to do to gain levels or anything, it's a social "CHOICE" you can do as a player in these games. WoW took away anything that made WoW into an mmoRPG, it's at best an mmo Hack and Slash. Time sinks is stuff like WoW corpse runs. wher eyou can either spend time, doing the corpse run, or "buy" you your corpse, which still is a time sink since you have to re-earn what you lost from "buying" the corpse back. And Time sinks is waiting for the silly spawns once every 3 or 6 hours mob you have to kill for many of the main class quests. instead of making important quest mobs instanced. you seem to be confusing time sinks with social/RPG and completely optional elements you you are no interested in, as opposed to actual time sinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 because something is social doesn't make it a time sink. roleplaying your character in a player city isn't something you have to do to gain levels or anything There are RP servers for that. I have no interest in splish & splashing in a fountain with other 4 year olds. Time sinks is stuff like WoW corpse runs. wher eyou can either spend time, doing the corpse run, or "buy" you your corpse, which still is a time sink since you have to re-earn what you lost from "buying" the corpse back. You're ****ting me? That's your best example?! MMOs 'back in the day' could take months to get to cap and if you died you could loose up to a hour or two worth of game time. That's a time sink. There has to be some sort of action for death or we'd all be charging in trying to solo elites to get quests done. And Time sinks is waiting for the silly spawns once every 3 or 6 hours mob you have to kill for many of the main class quests. instead of making important quest mobs instanced. They have learned their mistakes from that in the past and have a implemented a new system which increases the drop rates of quest items in small increments for each time it doesn't drop for you. By the looks of it you are basing these assumptions on vanilla WoW. you seem to be confusing time sinks with social/RPG and completely optional elements you you are no interested in, as opposed to actual time sinks. No I'm not. Anyway, I'm not driving this topic further off the beaten path. If you want to bash WoW there is already a thread for it. On topic: It's nice to see AoC giving two weeks to people who bought the game. But unless they have overhauled the combat system I'm going to assume many won't be too interested. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhalamar Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 On topic: It's nice to see AoC giving two weeks to people who bought the game. But unless they have overhauled the combat system I'm going to assume many won't be too interested. :( Huh? People left AoC because it was buggy and had little to no high end content. The battle system is why the few people stayed. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08993 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Huh? People left AoC because it was buggy and had little to no high end content. The battle system is why the few people stayed. o_O I bet you were a TOS? One of the most overpowered classes I've ever seen in an MMO, yeah the battle system was fine for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhalamar Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I bet you were a TOS? One of the most overpowered classes I've ever seen in an MMO, yeah the battle system was fine for them. I actually played Necromancer (and a Guardian alt). Sure ToS and other healers were rather overpowered but that didn't make the whole combat system broken. It was and is still the most fun combat system in any MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph B Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Well after reinstalling and updating apprehensively... I logged on, made a Conqueror. And got 21 levels in about 7 and a half hours. Needless to say, i'm having fun. I am getting no where near the lag I use to when I first bought AoC. I always feel like i'm playing a DDR MMO though because of the directional combat, it's not a bad thing, it's unique, and i'm getting the hang of it... Again. But yeah, pretty shocked. I thought i'd log on, and log off 10 minutes later then uninstall it. >,> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylcard Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Yeah well, like 11 million people pay for a subpar product, I'm almost certainly missing your point (perhaps I just don't know what you mean by "subpar"). Either way... We'll see about AoC in two weeks time ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Amen Hawkman, don't let the haters get you down. For people who enjoyed the game it has only gotten better, as is to be expected. I bounce between three MMOs, including WoW, and this game is really hard to beat, especially for $20. Hell, just playing through the start area twice is more than entry price. I'm really liking the pvp updates and bounty system. The new lvl 60 areas are a welcome addition as well. May finally get my second character to max now. My issues with the game were never of a technical nature. Its bloody gorgeous and smooth all around. Plus, you won't find such a solid feeling game engine outside of a PC FPS, and this sucker is massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph B Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yeah well, like 11 million people pay for a subpar product, I'm almost certainly missing your point (perhaps I just don't know what you mean by "subpar").Either way... We'll see about AoC in two weeks time ;) I'm interested to see what will come of it after the 2 weeks aswell, I hope I don't level up this character just to see AoC shut down like Matrix Online did lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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