ilovetech Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Keywords are evolutionary and major effort.If the fact that the Server counterpart is just called Server 2008 R2 isn't enough to convince you, then I give up. +100 :yes: for me 6.1 is vista R2 as far as kernel is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red77stars Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Nothing else will get released. MS is working on languages and that's about it. English is not my first language, but running Windows or any other OS in other language then Engilsh is absolutely retarded cause there is no way to translate certain things and not to lose real meaning of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 +100 :yes: for me 6.1 is vista R2 as far as kernel is concerned. Windows 2000 = 5.0 Windows XP = 5.1 Was Windows XP Windows 2000 R2 for you? Windows 7 ist Windows NT 7.0. https://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/10/16/i...rnel-version-61 "The only thing to read into the code versioning is that we are absolutely committed to making sure application compatibility is optimized for our customers."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Windows 2000 = 5.0Windows XP = 5.1 Was Windows XP Windows 2000 R2 for you? Windows 7 ist Windows NT 7.0. https://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/10/16/i...rnel-version-61 "The only thing to read into the code versioning is that we are absolutely committed to making sure application compatibility is optimized for our customers."" Sorry to disappoint you but Windows Vista Server edition is Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7 Server edition is Windows Server 2008 R2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Was Windows XP Windows 2000 R2 for you? Windows XP was basically Windows 2000 with a more average-consumer-friendly frond-end slapped on. The changes weren't that massive between the two. It was revolutionary in the sense that NT finally came to the consumer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Windows XP was basically Windows 2000 with a more average-consumer-friendly frond-end slapped on. The changes weren't that massive between the two. It was revolutionary in the sense that NT finally came to the consumer market. True. It wasn't much an improvement over Win2000 but it was the biggest ever improvement in the original (non NT) line of Windows (1.01, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, Win95, 98, Me), but I will add that there was some improvements in XP over 2000 other than the front-end, not too big ones but still improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovetech Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) Windows 2000 = 5.0Windows XP = 5.1 Was Windows XP Windows 2000 R2 for you? Windows 7 ist Windows NT 7.0. https://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/10/16/i...rnel-version-61 "The only thing to read into the code versioning is that we are absolutely committed to making sure application compatibility is optimized for our customers."" i think by now you must have got your answer in the upper post but to add, yes XP was evolutionary with minor upgrade to the kernel itself. i think you need to understand the difference between kernel & os. what i am taking about is NT version & not the os itself. from vista to win7 kernel is largely the same with minor upgrade but as a whole OS has other changes as well beside kernel. and as far as microsoft post explaining why it is 6.1is concerned it itself says that it is a "evolutionary" step with "major effort". this doesn't mean the major effort results in major changes as well. vista itself was so bloated that it needed major effort to get the performance as in win7. application compatibility excuse is just a marketing gimmick coz they cant call windows 7 as vista R2 just like that with server 2008 coz of obvious reasons. if kernel would have actually got some major uplift than they could have named server edition as server 2009 or anything they like. that could actually get better market reputation of bringing a new server edition as well insead of just a R2. Edited July 22, 2009 by ilovetech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensurround Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 :argh: There should be a separate thread for bitching about version numbers. Everyone is just running in circles saying the same things over and over and over. The official statement is out there and nothing anyone else says can change it, even if it doesn't make sense to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Microsoft made it official (at least to the OEM partners) that Windows 7 RTM day will be July 24th. http://winfuture.de/news,48605.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovetech Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Microsoft made it official (at least to the OEM partners) that Windows 7 RTM day will be July 24th.http://winfuture.de/news,48605.html any news regarding build number?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 any news regarding build number?? nope, and probably wouldn't be any until Friday... but I am suspecting, it wouldn't be 16385 :) (before anyone here eat me alive :) I said suspecting...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendo Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Blah blah blah... RTM, not RTM... Take this: Good anought? p.s. Screenshot not mine... Now you can agrue if its fake or not... :))) Another 35 pages of BS... :))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joontje Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Blah blah blah... RTM, not RTM...Take this: Good anought? p.s. Screenshot not mine... Now you can agrue if its fake or not... :))) Another 35 pages of BS... :))) Its not fake, and that screenshot has allready been confirmed and posted some pages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Takahashi Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Gendo: Can't say RTM or not RTM anymore. the RTM date is out, the schedule is out, so there's really no point in debating about the RTM anymore. Some of you guys are just incapable of waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightEco Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Accorinding to the blog post, OEMS will get Win 7 two days after the RTM. To meet the 24th, that would mean the RTM is today. It doesn't make sense that they would get it two days after the 24th, that would make it a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joontje Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Accorinding to the blog post, OEMS will get Win 7 two days after the RTM. To meet the 24th, that would mean the RTM is today. It doesn't make sense that they would get it two days after the 24th, that would make it a Sunday. maybe in another timezone that would make it on monday? I havent calculated this at all so forgive me if im wrong :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmorya Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My guess it that it will end up being: Windows 7 Version 6.1.7600.17000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekhaatvensters Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Accorinding to the blog post, OEMS will get Win 7 two days after the RTM. To meet the 24th, that would mean the RTM is today. It doesn't make sense that they would get it two days after the 24th, that would make it a Sunday. From other threads; the actual wording was "within 2 days" and the RTM is only officially announced once all of the language packs are finished. if you look at that screenie it's just the English RTM that will be getting to OEM's on Friday. That's also the only build I'm interested in, and the build number will always stay the same so hopefully it'll come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joontje Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My guess it that it will end up being:Windows 7 Version 6.1.7600.17000 Why? is it 'logical' that a nice round number would be the Final ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My guess it that it will end up being:Windows 7 Version 6.1.7600.17000 If they decided to recompile 7600.16385. They would have to re-distro to all the MS Partners, then re-vote on the code. Since it would then be a different build. That will not happen. It's done.. and the RTM build is 7600.16385.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wguimb Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Just like I tried to tell everyone since yesterday.....RTM is 7600.16385 and it was created on July 13th. It's official now. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009...nufacturers.ars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerade01 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Not official until a OEM recives it and confirms the build number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_MSWindows Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 No said about announcing it today. But they do compile builds on a Saturday. Also, this build is a few days old any how. He's right. http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/...ufacturing.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlonghorn Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yes, today was the big day according to even Paul Thurrott's FAQ. "Q: When will the final version of Windows 7 ship? A: Microsoft finalized Windows 7 on July 22, 2009 and will make it available to the public on October 22, 2009 via new PCs and at retail. However, different customer types will be able to get Windows 7 before that date. See my article, Windows 7 Availability, for details." Source: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/faq.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperless Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. " NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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